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Multum In Parbo, Or Masonic Notes And Queries.

Multum in Parbo , or Masonic Notes and Queries .

«> I find the following in an old Dictionary , printed in London 16 94 . " Hecatomb , a Greek word that signifies a sacrifice ? nf n Iirmrli-f-rl nvr > r- ruct-m-i-ir -ni ~ n ( r fiir- T rrri > -

donians , who havingahundred towns , did yearly sacrifice as many oxen to theirgods . Butin time got better husbands , and to save charges , reduced them to 23 ; at last they turned their sacrifice of oxen ( as being too expensive . ) toVoats and lambs . And Pvthaeoras .

who believed the Metempsycosis , contented himseli to offer a Hecatomb of Paste . —Spoil . Recherche d Antiquitc . W . G . D .

' Five Points " ( page 176 ) quotes a speech delivered in 1846 , by Sir Charles Lemon , to the P . G . Lodge , Cornwall , in which the following occurs : "They had their signs and symbols ; and St . Chrysostom , who lived in the 5 th century ,

alluded to our mysteries , which , he says , ' The initiated will know what I mean . '" We would require a longer quotation from St . Chrysostom to show us who he meant by the initiated . That he was a learned prelate and philosopher , we

have 110 doubt ; but question his initiation into our mysteries . "Five Points" has a valuable " Imperial History , " printed in 1623 . But the three (* -- * ¦ ' ) five-pointed stars , under the heading of

" Cladius , the first of that name , " & c , and others , have no reference to Masonry . In other works of that period they are used , and sometimes explained in the preface or otherwise to signify that the subject or paragraph is not a mere

translation , but original . Death Heads , Sand Glasses , & c , and curious devices were also often used for tail-pieces ; I therefore cannot think with " Five

Points " that there is any proof in them , or that it is " probable the printer was one of the Craft , " and far less so for the existence of " Freemasonry 600 years before the Christian era . " W . G . DORIC .

JOTTINGS FROM MASONIC JOURNALS ( page 195 ) . I am afraid that the Editor of the Evergreen has to draw largely upon his imagination when mapping out " the stately march of the institution " in pre-Christian times ! unless indeed he ,

which is probably the case , draws largely upon the dreams of Anderson , Preston and Oliver , d sui generis . However , if any of these

American bulls cross his path , " Leo " intends to cat them up . Bro . E . A . Guilbert should accept the challenge thrown down on page iSS , and come forward . 1 , EO . .

A TEMPERANCE LODGE . A lodge iii which no refreshment is ever to appear has been long talked over in Edinburgh , and so far did they go , that a few met and settled the name . I will give more news regarding it afterwards . CHALMERS I . PATON .

STILT . FURTHER INNOVATIONS ON FREEMASONRY I : V THE GOOD TEMPLARS IN SCOTLAND . Sonic time ago I wrote to THE FREEMASON regarding the innovation of Good Templars in Scotland , it has now reached a summit , insomuch

that they have now formed a Grand Lodge , and call it "The Grand Lodge of Scotland . " Is this not my words coming true ? If any strange body of men can form themselves into a Grand Lodge of Scotland , what is to hinder any

other body of men who have a knowledge of Freemasonry , come by it how they may , to form themselves into a Grand Lodge , and style it The Grand Lodge of Scotland . Should some of the legal fraternity who boast and pretend to

take such a great interest in the Grand Lodge of Scotland , not use the proper means to have this illegal body put down ? This spurious body met in Grand Lodge assembled , at Paisley , on the iSth April , 10 * 70 . CHALMERS I . PATON .

T 0 ULM 1 N SMITH ' S ENGLISH GILDS . A few days ago , viz ., on the 19 th ult , I received this very interesting and valuable work ,

Multum In Parbo, Or Masonic Notes And Queries.

and so far as I have yet seen , it seems to me to coincide with and support the views I have been trying to enunciate and uphold . It goes to prove that Masonic customs previous to last century were , as I have already said , merely

similar to the customs of other co-existing Crafts . Further , it seems to me , that Desaguliers and Anderson got themselves posted up in tlie history of a number of these gilds and their customs , after which they picked out , altered and

adopted , and so manufactured things to suit themselves , and to make up the system they were forming . In these old non-Masonic gilds , just as with the Masons , we read of a Master and Wardens , marching in livery , installations , four

meetings in tlie year , or " Quarterly Communications " as Ave may call them , secrets to be kept , kindliness to be cherished , oaths to be taken , ( which are written in books ) , jewels to be worn , gentlemen admitted as members , three candles

used , box with three locks . " The opened box was the sign that the meeting had begun , just as with the Craft gilds . While , therefore , the box toas open , all present had to remain with uncovered heads , and during such time all disrespectful

conduct , as well as improper clothing , cursing and swearing—in short all that showed want of respect—was severely punished . " Pointed weapons were also forbidden , & c , & c . In short , while we see where Desaguliers and Co . have

copied or adopted their ideas from , we also see the marks of their manipulation in our present system , and can now the better judge of what they did . The Carpenters' Gild of Worcester is very interesting , the courtesy also of the Town Clerk and Corporation of * "Worcester are in

striking contrast to the paltry spirit of those at Bristol ; the latter seeming to have taken for their motto , "ignorance is bliss . " However , Mr . Smith does not miss them at page 283 of his work . The book is ably edited by his daughter , while Lujo Brentano ' s essay is most valuable . W . P . B .

" RECIPROCITY " AND ENGLISH LODGES Bro . , signing himself " Reciprocity , " must wait until he is personally acquainted with some members of lodges in London before he can expect to be received as a member . When

he is known , to , say two or three members of a lodge who can vouch for his respectability and Masonic character , I am sure that our brother will not find that his being initiated in a sister Grand Lodge , ( viz ., Scotland , ) will be

any bar to his admission and election as a joining member . Meanwhile , he can visit as many lodges as he pleases in our great city , if lie is a subscribing member under the Grand Lodge of Scotland and can give the proper " vouchers "

of having been initiated in a regular lodge , ccc , & c . I am a Scotch as well as an English Mason , but in visiting lodges in either country , I have have never found anything but the most thorough reciprocity of Masonic feeling from the members

of both Constitutions . It is absurd for a stranger in a strange town to expect affiliation until he is personally known to the members , or at least to some whose word would be a guarantee of his position Masonically and socially being such

as to render him worthy of being accepted as a joining member . Care should be taken in the admission of joining members , as well as in balloting for candidates for initiation . It is always well for strangers to produce letters of

introduction to members of the lodgo winch they desire to join , from members of the Order , who maybe well-known , and who by their recommending the visiting brother , may by virtue of such , secure his election as a joining member . W . J . HUGHAN .

THE " ARK MARINER" DEGREE . Would it be considered too much in me to ask that a copy of the " Gill" warrant be inserted in THE FREEMASON for the benefit of old Ark Mariners , and also for the information of thc

Craft generally . I have an idea that more than this degree is mentioned , and that the warrant if made known would prove of general Masonic interest . I would much like to correspond privately with any brother that can give positive

Multum In Parbo, Or Masonic Notes And Queries.

information about the "Link ofthe "Ark , Mark and Link . " Whilst believing the " Mark " to be the older of these three degrees ( was the Link a separate degree ?) , undoubtedly the others were worked during the last century , and are even now known

to several Masons , especially the " Mark" and " Ark Mariner . " My esteemed friend Bro . Captain Irwin , of Bristol , is the best authority I know of with respect to the " Ark , " and would no doubt enlighten the readers of this valuable and extensively circulated paper , if able , in reference

to the "Link . " The little I know of the degrees is confined to the two first . The "Mark" certainly possesses much utility and beauty , Masonically , and deserves more general support than is accorded to it . It is a mistake to suppose that it has only been during this century that Mark Lodges have

been instituted , and that formerly the degree was given gratis to Fellow Crafts . I know of no record that mentions the degree of Mark Master ( not Mark Mason ) being given to any but Master Masons , and I have a Roll of Mark Lodges by me of the last century wherein the degree was conferred only on Master Masons . W . J . HUGHAN .

BROS . " \ V . G . D ., " PYTHAGORAS , " AND THE " FIFTYONE GRAND MASTERS PRIOR TO I ? 17 . " Bro . ;• W . G . D . " says ( p . 199 ) , "it would be interesting to have a list of the names of the 51 Grand Masters prior to 1717 . I readily supply this : —

A . I ) . 597 . Austin , the Monk , 6 S 0 . Rennet , Abbot of Wirral , 856 . Si . Sivithin . S 72 . King Alfred . 900 . Athered , Prince of Mercia .

928 . Athelstane . 957 . Dunstan , Archbishop of Canterbury . 1041 . Edward the Confessor . 1066 . Gondulph , Bishop of Rochester . 1100 . Henry I . 1135 . Gilbert de Clare , Marquis of Pembroke .

1155 . The Grand Master of The Templars . 1199 . Peter de Colechurch . 1216 . Peter dc Rupibus , Bishop of Winccster . 1272 . Walter Giffard , Archbishop of York . 1307 . Walter Stapleton , Bishop of Exeter . 1327 . Edward III .

1357 . William a Wykeham , Bishop of Winchester . 1375 . Simon Langham , Abbot of Westminster . 1377 . William a Wykeham , again . 1400 . Thomas Fit / . Allen , Earl of Surrey . 1413 . Henry Chichely , Archbishop of Canterbury . 144 . 3 . William Wayntlcet , Bishop of Winchester .

1471 . Richard Bcauchamp , Bishop of Salisbury . 1500 . The Grand Mastcrof the OrderofSt . John , Henry VII . Patron . 1502 . Henry VII . 1515 . Cardinal Wolsey . 1530 . Thomas Cromwell , Earl of Essex .

1543 . John Touchett , Lord Audley . 1549 . Edward Seymour , Duke of Somerset , 1552 . John l'oynet , Bishop of Winccster . 1560 . Sir Thomas Sackville . 1567 . Sir Thomas Gresham , in the South . 1567 . Francis Russell , Earl ol Bedford , in the North .

1580 . Charles Howard , Earl of Effingham . 1588 . George Hastings , Earl of Huntingdon . 1603 . King James I ., Patron . Inigo Jones , Grand Master . 161 S . William Herbert , ¦ ¦ ' . \ vl of Pembroke .

1625 . King Charles I . 1630 . Henry Danvers , Earl of Derby . 16 33 . Thomas Howard , Earl of Arundel . 16 35 . Francis Russell , Earl of Bedford . 1636 . Inigo Jones , again . 1643 . Henry Jermyn , Earl of St . Albans .

1666 . 1 homas Savage , Earl of Rivers . [ 674 . George Villiers , Duke of Buckingham . 1674 . Henry Bennett , Earl of Arlington . 1685 . Sir Christopher Wren . 169 S . Charles Lennox , HuUe of Richmond , Sir Christopher Wren , again . 1717 . Anthony Saver , Esq .

In the hope that this may be useful to the Craft that the 1717 theory is absurd . PYTHAGORAS .

WE have the pleasure to announce , for the benefit of our readers , that the articles by Bro . S . II . 1 ¦ IcrUveld , relating- to the discovery of the letters of Bro . Manningham , Deputy Grand Master of England , dated A . D . 6 and 1757 , with notes by

Bro . W . J . Hughan , will shortly be published in THE FREEMASON , as special arrangements have been made with these brethren to have translations of Hro . Hertz veld ' s pamphlets , with notes of importance , for the benefit of the Craft Universal

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Multum In Parbo, Or Masonic Notes And Queries.

Multum in Parbo , or Masonic Notes and Queries .

«> I find the following in an old Dictionary , printed in London 16 94 . " Hecatomb , a Greek word that signifies a sacrifice ? nf n Iirmrli-f-rl nvr > r- ruct-m-i-ir -ni ~ n ( r fiir- T rrri > -

donians , who havingahundred towns , did yearly sacrifice as many oxen to theirgods . Butin time got better husbands , and to save charges , reduced them to 23 ; at last they turned their sacrifice of oxen ( as being too expensive . ) toVoats and lambs . And Pvthaeoras .

who believed the Metempsycosis , contented himseli to offer a Hecatomb of Paste . —Spoil . Recherche d Antiquitc . W . G . D .

' Five Points " ( page 176 ) quotes a speech delivered in 1846 , by Sir Charles Lemon , to the P . G . Lodge , Cornwall , in which the following occurs : "They had their signs and symbols ; and St . Chrysostom , who lived in the 5 th century ,

alluded to our mysteries , which , he says , ' The initiated will know what I mean . '" We would require a longer quotation from St . Chrysostom to show us who he meant by the initiated . That he was a learned prelate and philosopher , we

have 110 doubt ; but question his initiation into our mysteries . "Five Points" has a valuable " Imperial History , " printed in 1623 . But the three (* -- * ¦ ' ) five-pointed stars , under the heading of

" Cladius , the first of that name , " & c , and others , have no reference to Masonry . In other works of that period they are used , and sometimes explained in the preface or otherwise to signify that the subject or paragraph is not a mere

translation , but original . Death Heads , Sand Glasses , & c , and curious devices were also often used for tail-pieces ; I therefore cannot think with " Five

Points " that there is any proof in them , or that it is " probable the printer was one of the Craft , " and far less so for the existence of " Freemasonry 600 years before the Christian era . " W . G . DORIC .

JOTTINGS FROM MASONIC JOURNALS ( page 195 ) . I am afraid that the Editor of the Evergreen has to draw largely upon his imagination when mapping out " the stately march of the institution " in pre-Christian times ! unless indeed he ,

which is probably the case , draws largely upon the dreams of Anderson , Preston and Oliver , d sui generis . However , if any of these

American bulls cross his path , " Leo " intends to cat them up . Bro . E . A . Guilbert should accept the challenge thrown down on page iSS , and come forward . 1 , EO . .

A TEMPERANCE LODGE . A lodge iii which no refreshment is ever to appear has been long talked over in Edinburgh , and so far did they go , that a few met and settled the name . I will give more news regarding it afterwards . CHALMERS I . PATON .

STILT . FURTHER INNOVATIONS ON FREEMASONRY I : V THE GOOD TEMPLARS IN SCOTLAND . Sonic time ago I wrote to THE FREEMASON regarding the innovation of Good Templars in Scotland , it has now reached a summit , insomuch

that they have now formed a Grand Lodge , and call it "The Grand Lodge of Scotland . " Is this not my words coming true ? If any strange body of men can form themselves into a Grand Lodge of Scotland , what is to hinder any

other body of men who have a knowledge of Freemasonry , come by it how they may , to form themselves into a Grand Lodge , and style it The Grand Lodge of Scotland . Should some of the legal fraternity who boast and pretend to

take such a great interest in the Grand Lodge of Scotland , not use the proper means to have this illegal body put down ? This spurious body met in Grand Lodge assembled , at Paisley , on the iSth April , 10 * 70 . CHALMERS I . PATON .

T 0 ULM 1 N SMITH ' S ENGLISH GILDS . A few days ago , viz ., on the 19 th ult , I received this very interesting and valuable work ,

Multum In Parbo, Or Masonic Notes And Queries.

and so far as I have yet seen , it seems to me to coincide with and support the views I have been trying to enunciate and uphold . It goes to prove that Masonic customs previous to last century were , as I have already said , merely

similar to the customs of other co-existing Crafts . Further , it seems to me , that Desaguliers and Anderson got themselves posted up in tlie history of a number of these gilds and their customs , after which they picked out , altered and

adopted , and so manufactured things to suit themselves , and to make up the system they were forming . In these old non-Masonic gilds , just as with the Masons , we read of a Master and Wardens , marching in livery , installations , four

meetings in tlie year , or " Quarterly Communications " as Ave may call them , secrets to be kept , kindliness to be cherished , oaths to be taken , ( which are written in books ) , jewels to be worn , gentlemen admitted as members , three candles

used , box with three locks . " The opened box was the sign that the meeting had begun , just as with the Craft gilds . While , therefore , the box toas open , all present had to remain with uncovered heads , and during such time all disrespectful

conduct , as well as improper clothing , cursing and swearing—in short all that showed want of respect—was severely punished . " Pointed weapons were also forbidden , & c , & c . In short , while we see where Desaguliers and Co . have

copied or adopted their ideas from , we also see the marks of their manipulation in our present system , and can now the better judge of what they did . The Carpenters' Gild of Worcester is very interesting , the courtesy also of the Town Clerk and Corporation of * "Worcester are in

striking contrast to the paltry spirit of those at Bristol ; the latter seeming to have taken for their motto , "ignorance is bliss . " However , Mr . Smith does not miss them at page 283 of his work . The book is ably edited by his daughter , while Lujo Brentano ' s essay is most valuable . W . P . B .

" RECIPROCITY " AND ENGLISH LODGES Bro . , signing himself " Reciprocity , " must wait until he is personally acquainted with some members of lodges in London before he can expect to be received as a member . When

he is known , to , say two or three members of a lodge who can vouch for his respectability and Masonic character , I am sure that our brother will not find that his being initiated in a sister Grand Lodge , ( viz ., Scotland , ) will be

any bar to his admission and election as a joining member . Meanwhile , he can visit as many lodges as he pleases in our great city , if lie is a subscribing member under the Grand Lodge of Scotland and can give the proper " vouchers "

of having been initiated in a regular lodge , ccc , & c . I am a Scotch as well as an English Mason , but in visiting lodges in either country , I have have never found anything but the most thorough reciprocity of Masonic feeling from the members

of both Constitutions . It is absurd for a stranger in a strange town to expect affiliation until he is personally known to the members , or at least to some whose word would be a guarantee of his position Masonically and socially being such

as to render him worthy of being accepted as a joining member . Care should be taken in the admission of joining members , as well as in balloting for candidates for initiation . It is always well for strangers to produce letters of

introduction to members of the lodgo winch they desire to join , from members of the Order , who maybe well-known , and who by their recommending the visiting brother , may by virtue of such , secure his election as a joining member . W . J . HUGHAN .

THE " ARK MARINER" DEGREE . Would it be considered too much in me to ask that a copy of the " Gill" warrant be inserted in THE FREEMASON for the benefit of old Ark Mariners , and also for the information of thc

Craft generally . I have an idea that more than this degree is mentioned , and that the warrant if made known would prove of general Masonic interest . I would much like to correspond privately with any brother that can give positive

Multum In Parbo, Or Masonic Notes And Queries.

information about the "Link ofthe "Ark , Mark and Link . " Whilst believing the " Mark " to be the older of these three degrees ( was the Link a separate degree ?) , undoubtedly the others were worked during the last century , and are even now known

to several Masons , especially the " Mark" and " Ark Mariner . " My esteemed friend Bro . Captain Irwin , of Bristol , is the best authority I know of with respect to the " Ark , " and would no doubt enlighten the readers of this valuable and extensively circulated paper , if able , in reference

to the "Link . " The little I know of the degrees is confined to the two first . The "Mark" certainly possesses much utility and beauty , Masonically , and deserves more general support than is accorded to it . It is a mistake to suppose that it has only been during this century that Mark Lodges have

been instituted , and that formerly the degree was given gratis to Fellow Crafts . I know of no record that mentions the degree of Mark Master ( not Mark Mason ) being given to any but Master Masons , and I have a Roll of Mark Lodges by me of the last century wherein the degree was conferred only on Master Masons . W . J . HUGHAN .

BROS . " \ V . G . D ., " PYTHAGORAS , " AND THE " FIFTYONE GRAND MASTERS PRIOR TO I ? 17 . " Bro . ;• W . G . D . " says ( p . 199 ) , "it would be interesting to have a list of the names of the 51 Grand Masters prior to 1717 . I readily supply this : —

A . I ) . 597 . Austin , the Monk , 6 S 0 . Rennet , Abbot of Wirral , 856 . Si . Sivithin . S 72 . King Alfred . 900 . Athered , Prince of Mercia .

928 . Athelstane . 957 . Dunstan , Archbishop of Canterbury . 1041 . Edward the Confessor . 1066 . Gondulph , Bishop of Rochester . 1100 . Henry I . 1135 . Gilbert de Clare , Marquis of Pembroke .

1155 . The Grand Master of The Templars . 1199 . Peter de Colechurch . 1216 . Peter dc Rupibus , Bishop of Winccster . 1272 . Walter Giffard , Archbishop of York . 1307 . Walter Stapleton , Bishop of Exeter . 1327 . Edward III .

1357 . William a Wykeham , Bishop of Winchester . 1375 . Simon Langham , Abbot of Westminster . 1377 . William a Wykeham , again . 1400 . Thomas Fit / . Allen , Earl of Surrey . 1413 . Henry Chichely , Archbishop of Canterbury . 144 . 3 . William Wayntlcet , Bishop of Winchester .

1471 . Richard Bcauchamp , Bishop of Salisbury . 1500 . The Grand Mastcrof the OrderofSt . John , Henry VII . Patron . 1502 . Henry VII . 1515 . Cardinal Wolsey . 1530 . Thomas Cromwell , Earl of Essex .

1543 . John Touchett , Lord Audley . 1549 . Edward Seymour , Duke of Somerset , 1552 . John l'oynet , Bishop of Winccster . 1560 . Sir Thomas Sackville . 1567 . Sir Thomas Gresham , in the South . 1567 . Francis Russell , Earl ol Bedford , in the North .

1580 . Charles Howard , Earl of Effingham . 1588 . George Hastings , Earl of Huntingdon . 1603 . King James I ., Patron . Inigo Jones , Grand Master . 161 S . William Herbert , ¦ ¦ ' . \ vl of Pembroke .

1625 . King Charles I . 1630 . Henry Danvers , Earl of Derby . 16 33 . Thomas Howard , Earl of Arundel . 16 35 . Francis Russell , Earl of Bedford . 1636 . Inigo Jones , again . 1643 . Henry Jermyn , Earl of St . Albans .

1666 . 1 homas Savage , Earl of Rivers . [ 674 . George Villiers , Duke of Buckingham . 1674 . Henry Bennett , Earl of Arlington . 1685 . Sir Christopher Wren . 169 S . Charles Lennox , HuUe of Richmond , Sir Christopher Wren , again . 1717 . Anthony Saver , Esq .

In the hope that this may be useful to the Craft that the 1717 theory is absurd . PYTHAGORAS .

WE have the pleasure to announce , for the benefit of our readers , that the articles by Bro . S . II . 1 ¦ IcrUveld , relating- to the discovery of the letters of Bro . Manningham , Deputy Grand Master of England , dated A . D . 6 and 1757 , with notes by

Bro . W . J . Hughan , will shortly be published in THE FREEMASON , as special arrangements have been made with these brethren to have translations of Hro . Hertz veld ' s pamphlets , with notes of importance , for the benefit of the Craft Universal

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