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any situation , and of ability to overcome difficulties of all kinds , his death will be mourned by many friends , by a larger number of acquaintances , and by a vast body of Freemasons in Bengal , the Punjab , and elsewhere , who could have only known him by name . By those who had the privilege of his friendship , no face will be more missed , and no memory can be more admired , than that of Arthur Godolphin Yeatman-Biggs . J . H . L .
NOTE . —The following extract from a letter written by the special correspondent of the Times , with the 2 nd Division of the Tirah Field Force , dated from Swaikote , December 15 th , 1 S 97 , appeared in the Times of January ioth , after the above memoir had been written . — " Briefly , the and Division will now be given a much-needed rest , stationed about Bara-Barkai . Nearly all the hard fighting has fallen to its lot , and in killed and wounded alone its losses since the
commencement of the operations are little short of 1000 men . General Yeatman-Briggs himself is ill , and only devotion to duty and determination to see the thing through has kept him at his post at the head of this splendid division during these trying weeks of lighting , hardship , and exposure . "—If independent testimony was wanted to endorse the words of our memoir , this short extract eloquently supplies the want .
BRO . SIR CHARLES HUTTON GREGORY , K . C . M . G . Bro . Sir Charles Hutton Gregory , K . C . M . G ., whose death took place on Monday last , was the son of Olinthus Gilbert Gregory , Professor of Mathematics at the Royal Military Academy , Woolwich , and was born in 1 S 17 . Four years ago he married Mrs . Stirling , the well-known and talented actress , who died in 1 S 95 . Sir Charles was a past president of the Institution of Civil Engineers and Lieutenant-Colonel of the Engineer and Railway Volunteer Staff Corps .
Royal Masonic Institution For Girls.
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR GIRLS .
The January Quarterly Court of Subscribers to this Institution was held on Thursday at Freemasons' Hall , Bro . J . II . Matthews , P . A . G . D . C , in the chair . There were also present . Bros . Hugh M . Gordon . Henry A . Tobias , J . E . Le Feuvre , Alfred C . Spaull , W . IL , Saunders , Robert Martin , A . W . Duret , W .
Russell , John Glass , j . M . McLeod ( Sec . R . M . I . Boys ) , H . Massey , Stanley J . Attenborough , W . A . Scurrah , John Strachan , Q . C , J . Terry ( Sec . R . M . B . I . ) , C . E . Keyser , W . F . Smithson , S . H . Parkhouse , R . Clowes , Peter de L . Long , Oliver Papworth , Rowland Plumbe , Richard Eve , and F . R . W . Hedges ( Secretary ) .
The minutes of the last Quarterly Court were read and confirmed , and the minutes of the General Committees since were read for information .
Bro . HEDGES also read a letter from the Home Secretary acknowledging her Majesty ' s receipt of the vote of congratulation passed on her completing 60 years of her reign . A letter was also read by him from Lord Skelmersdale acknowledging , on behalf of the Earl of Lathom and family , the address of sympathy and condolence voted on the lamentable death of the Countess of Lathom .
There was likewise read the report of the Committee appointed to inquire into , and report upon , the subject of perpetual presentations . Thc result of that report was unfavourable to perpetual presentations . Bro . W . RUSSELL , A . G . D . C , in moving the adoption of the report , said he thought it was of very great importance to thc Masonic world in general , and to the Masonic Charities in particular , that this report should be adopted . It was a
matter of expediency and a matter of finance . lt was a matter of expediency that they should not make perpetual presentations , or presentations of any right , too cheap , because if it did not in that Institution , it did in other Institutions influence the number of vacancies that were to be balloted for at the elections by subscribers' votes , and if they should do anything which would curtail their privileges , it was manifest to them , , as honest men , they shoull do
it on such terms as would not be detrimental to the subscribers to tbe Institution . In that Institution they said the matter of presentation included the number of vacancies to be balloted for . He joined issue with the Chairman on that , but as it influenced the others he did not think the Chairman ' s point was of much value , because it was not expedient that there should be competition between the other Institutions and it did affect thc
others . As a matter of finance it was fit and proper that perpetual presentations should be extinguished for ever . Those who listened to Bro . Frank Richardson when he said the damaging statement as to the vast amount of money that had been sunk in extinguishing those perpetual rights and privileges must see at once that it was not advisable to go on creating perpetual presentations , and why any Masonic Institution should bind itself to keep a boy or girl or an old man or an
old woman for ever for one appointed sum , was , to his mind , needless to argue . If they looked at it in a financial point of view , they would see that to perpetuate Ihe name of some beloved brother or to enable some province to do so jby having an old person or a boy or girl on the funds it could be done in a way that would cost no more and which would benefit thc Institution by a recurring donation to its funds every 35 or 40 years
according to the life of the person assured , so that the Institution was not ( so his opponents argued ) shut out from the sale of a presentation . That source of income would not be destroyed , on the contrary , it would be strengthened and augmented . He had been described laughingly to-day ir , this room as an arch fiend . If his Satanic majesty had the power of figures perhaps he might be able to calculate it ; he ( Bro . Russell ) had the power of figures as he wis in the
constant habit of dealing with them . In that way perhaps he was an arch fiend , but he was exercising his powers for the benefit of the Institutions . Some brethren might think he was doing the Institution damage by asking them to destroy perpetual presentations . That was not his view or the view of those who agreed with him . He contended that they were the real benefactors of the Institution . They wished instead of giving a single lump sum which would never
ecur to make them the recipients of an annually recurring sum until tim * should be no more . That was the view he asked the brethren to take now and adopt the report of tho Committee . He would unfold the whole case so that the Court might take an intelligent vote . He was going lo ask Ihem to re-appoint the Committee , lie would give a few figures showing how brethren , or a province , or lodge might perpetuate the name of some one they might delight to honour .
llro . J . II . MATTHEWS ( Chairman ) suggested that Bro . Russell was going to a new point ; his motion was for the adoption of the reioort . Bro . Russell was gong lo show how by another way a perpetual presentation might be obtained . Bro . Rissi ; 1 . 1 . said that £ 525 invested at 2 : ' , per cent ., if . £ 40 per' annum was spent , it would last 1 ( 1 years ; J £ l \ . o on the same terms would last 20 ; years ; £ 73 ^
, 25 . y ' -ars ; £ 840 , 31 ? years . There was no allowance for income tax in these calculat ons . To insure a male life aged 21 would cost £ 1 13 s . per cent . ; £ S 4 o at £ 1 1 3 * . per cent , would cost £ 13 14 s . 3 d . per annum ; £ 516 2 s . iod . at 2 ; per cent , would be £ 14 3 s . 1 id . This , less income tax—9 s . od . —would be £ 13 14 s . 5 d ., and the amount insured would bc £ 1356 . A life presentation whicli should last nearly
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32 years could be got for a capital sum of £ 840 , invested at 2 ? per cent . The insurance of a male life of 21 would cost 33 s . per cent . ; therefore , for a capital sum of £ S 4 o , plus 516 , which would cost £ 13 14 s . 5 d ., would be sufficient to produce what was required . They need have no fears as to passing the resolution , which bound the Institution from selling a perpetual presentation . He moved the adoption of the report .
Bro . J GLASS , P . M . 453 , seconded the motion . Although he was not a member of the Committee , he could say it was a representative Committee , and if it was not practically unaimous , the report was the report of the Committee . That was , to his mind , a sufficient recommendation for the Court to adopt it . Bro . Ressell had gone into it and verified it by figures lo which he had referred . With regard to the principle of perpetual principles he did not know that he had much to say upon it ; but his
own opinion was that unless some equitable provision could be arranged for the the contract for all time , he thought to receive money at the present time at present prices , without any means of getting out of it at all , was very critical , redemption at some future time of the perpetual presentations , so as to get rid of Those perpetual presentations were very slow to fail in . At the present time there were very few , and they did not come in every day , but he was sure the
brethren could not fail to observe that of late years , especially in Charitable Institutions , there had been a tendency to the extreme of Charity founded on commercial principles more than was the case in the past . He was afraid that the outcome of those presentations would be that local gifts would be looked after more closely , and that unless the Institutions were well guarded they would get into the hands of the few instead of the many .
Bro . STRACHAN , Q . C , said he came to the meeting with an entirely open mind . He though it was advisable , as far as practicable , that the Institution should go on the same lines as before with regard to perpetual presentations ; but , as Bro . Russell had brought up the question about 40 years , he would like to know what was to be done with the amount subscribed by a friend of the Institution for perpetuating the name of a province or brother .
Bro . W . RUSSELL said the money should be deposited as caution money for the insurance premium with the Institution . There would be a separate fund , as was done with the Science and Art Department . In that way it could be administered with the most perfect ease . Bro . C . E . KEYSER , P . G . D ., as one of the Committee , said the Committee were not unanimous . There were two from each Institution who were in favour
of the report , and one from each against . The Committee considered what should bc done for the future . They were met with this motion that no perpetual presentation at all should be accepted . He dissented from that j he thought it unfortunate if they did not allow benevolent brethren to connect their names with the Institution on thoroughly financial grounds . They should not accept sums which were not sufficient to provide for the object for which those sums were
given . But that was a matter of management , and if those sums had been accepted in the past which were not sufficient for the purpose , were they not to accept anything again ? Six brethren voted against the presentations and two for them ; and he did not think it worth while to say anything . He would move an amendment : " That in future perpetual presentations shall only be accepted by the three Institutions on the following conditions : —first a minimum amount to be agreed upon "
Bro . j . H , MATTHEWS said he thought Bro . Keyser should move that thc matter be referred back to the Committee , or that another Committee should bc appointed . Bro . KF . V . SKK did not wish to fix a hard and fast line as to the amount . The Institution should net put itself in a position to refuse a liberal bequest , say of
£ 5000 . If they accepted a perpetual presentation and gave up a vacancy , they were curtailing thc benefits of the Institution . He thought more than 1100 guineas should be the sum ; 1500 guineas would make it a bit safe . For financial reasons hc opposed the ( adoption of the report ; there should be no competitio 1 between the Institutions . Rro . W . H . SAUNDERS seconded the amendment .
Bro . J . E . LE FEUVRE asked the Chairman to reconsider his views as to the propriety of accepting Bro . Keyser ' s amendment . He thought the Quarterly Court were not in sympathy wilh Bro . Russell , but were prepared to support some other view . It would be a pity to refer this back to the same Committee ; it was rather an invidious thing to reject the report of one Committee , and then send it lo another . Bro . MATTHEWS thought the amendment was in order .
Bro . A . C . SPAULL apprehended that if this Quarterly Court came to the decision that this should not be adopted Sir John Monckton ' s proposition , which was before the last Quarterly Court would immediately come up for discussion , and on that Bro . Keyser would be in a position to bring his amendment forward and take a vote on it . Bro . KEYSER thought it would be better to refer the matter back . Bro . W . F . SMITHSON would certainly oppose Bro . Russell's motion . It was
most unwise to bring before the Quarterly Court a proposition that they were not to take a sum of money to perpetuate a brother ' s name . It was absolutely wrong and going away from the very groundwork of the Institutions to deprive men of wealth from giving their money voluntarily . Bro . Geo . Heaton gave 1100 guineas . Some brother found out it was too little , If it was , let them name a larger sum . All the brethren were good workers for the Institutions ; they did not want to prevent a
man giving 1500 or 2000 guineas . It was unwise lo refuse the money . ft was not always that Consols would be at 110 ; a few years hence money might be al five per cent . Take the money when there was the opportunity . The money of Bro . George Heaton had been in his ( Bro . Smithson ' s ) bank for months . It was not a question of 100 guineas more or 200 guineas more ; it was a question ol perpetuating a brother ' s name . He should vote in favour of the perpetual presentation .
Bro . MATTHEWS enquired whether [ the subject had been discussed at thc Boys' Institution . Bro . J . M . MCLEOD said only by the Board of Management . Bro . TEKKV said not by the Benevolent Institution . They had not had the report . Bro . KEYSER said his amendment was— "That the question bc referred back to the Committee to report on the terms on which perpetual presentations can bc accepted in the future . "
Bro . STANLEY J . ATTENHOROUHII suggested that the wording ought to be " should be . " They must give them authority to siy that they would accept perpetual presentations . Bro . J . E . Li : FEUVRE seconded . Bro . HUGH GOKOO . V thought they should consider what the terms of reference were . Bro . S . J . An'KNHOKOUUil said the matter came upon thc brethren by surprise . They never anticipated that perpetual presentations were to be vetoed ; the sole question belore the Court that day was whether they were to have
perpetual presentations . They had heard a good deal about the pounds , shillings , and pence principle . They should look at it sympathetically . The Secretaries would say that those who had given liked to give a ^ ain . Perpetual presentation ; were collected from numerous brethren ; they were true to tlieir old love , and gave again . Some presentations might be attached to lodges . The lodges might not have a candidate to present for years . That was for the benefit of the Institution . Let them try to get brethren to give large grants . It would be a sorry day when perpetual presentations were refused .
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Obituary.
any situation , and of ability to overcome difficulties of all kinds , his death will be mourned by many friends , by a larger number of acquaintances , and by a vast body of Freemasons in Bengal , the Punjab , and elsewhere , who could have only known him by name . By those who had the privilege of his friendship , no face will be more missed , and no memory can be more admired , than that of Arthur Godolphin Yeatman-Biggs . J . H . L .
NOTE . —The following extract from a letter written by the special correspondent of the Times , with the 2 nd Division of the Tirah Field Force , dated from Swaikote , December 15 th , 1 S 97 , appeared in the Times of January ioth , after the above memoir had been written . — " Briefly , the and Division will now be given a much-needed rest , stationed about Bara-Barkai . Nearly all the hard fighting has fallen to its lot , and in killed and wounded alone its losses since the
commencement of the operations are little short of 1000 men . General Yeatman-Briggs himself is ill , and only devotion to duty and determination to see the thing through has kept him at his post at the head of this splendid division during these trying weeks of lighting , hardship , and exposure . "—If independent testimony was wanted to endorse the words of our memoir , this short extract eloquently supplies the want .
BRO . SIR CHARLES HUTTON GREGORY , K . C . M . G . Bro . Sir Charles Hutton Gregory , K . C . M . G ., whose death took place on Monday last , was the son of Olinthus Gilbert Gregory , Professor of Mathematics at the Royal Military Academy , Woolwich , and was born in 1 S 17 . Four years ago he married Mrs . Stirling , the well-known and talented actress , who died in 1 S 95 . Sir Charles was a past president of the Institution of Civil Engineers and Lieutenant-Colonel of the Engineer and Railway Volunteer Staff Corps .
Royal Masonic Institution For Girls.
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR GIRLS .
The January Quarterly Court of Subscribers to this Institution was held on Thursday at Freemasons' Hall , Bro . J . II . Matthews , P . A . G . D . C , in the chair . There were also present . Bros . Hugh M . Gordon . Henry A . Tobias , J . E . Le Feuvre , Alfred C . Spaull , W . IL , Saunders , Robert Martin , A . W . Duret , W .
Russell , John Glass , j . M . McLeod ( Sec . R . M . I . Boys ) , H . Massey , Stanley J . Attenborough , W . A . Scurrah , John Strachan , Q . C , J . Terry ( Sec . R . M . B . I . ) , C . E . Keyser , W . F . Smithson , S . H . Parkhouse , R . Clowes , Peter de L . Long , Oliver Papworth , Rowland Plumbe , Richard Eve , and F . R . W . Hedges ( Secretary ) .
The minutes of the last Quarterly Court were read and confirmed , and the minutes of the General Committees since were read for information .
Bro . HEDGES also read a letter from the Home Secretary acknowledging her Majesty ' s receipt of the vote of congratulation passed on her completing 60 years of her reign . A letter was also read by him from Lord Skelmersdale acknowledging , on behalf of the Earl of Lathom and family , the address of sympathy and condolence voted on the lamentable death of the Countess of Lathom .
There was likewise read the report of the Committee appointed to inquire into , and report upon , the subject of perpetual presentations . Thc result of that report was unfavourable to perpetual presentations . Bro . W . RUSSELL , A . G . D . C , in moving the adoption of the report , said he thought it was of very great importance to thc Masonic world in general , and to the Masonic Charities in particular , that this report should be adopted . It was a
matter of expediency and a matter of finance . lt was a matter of expediency that they should not make perpetual presentations , or presentations of any right , too cheap , because if it did not in that Institution , it did in other Institutions influence the number of vacancies that were to be balloted for at the elections by subscribers' votes , and if they should do anything which would curtail their privileges , it was manifest to them , , as honest men , they shoull do
it on such terms as would not be detrimental to the subscribers to tbe Institution . In that Institution they said the matter of presentation included the number of vacancies to be balloted for . He joined issue with the Chairman on that , but as it influenced the others he did not think the Chairman ' s point was of much value , because it was not expedient that there should be competition between the other Institutions and it did affect thc
others . As a matter of finance it was fit and proper that perpetual presentations should be extinguished for ever . Those who listened to Bro . Frank Richardson when he said the damaging statement as to the vast amount of money that had been sunk in extinguishing those perpetual rights and privileges must see at once that it was not advisable to go on creating perpetual presentations , and why any Masonic Institution should bind itself to keep a boy or girl or an old man or an
old woman for ever for one appointed sum , was , to his mind , needless to argue . If they looked at it in a financial point of view , they would see that to perpetuate Ihe name of some beloved brother or to enable some province to do so jby having an old person or a boy or girl on the funds it could be done in a way that would cost no more and which would benefit thc Institution by a recurring donation to its funds every 35 or 40 years
according to the life of the person assured , so that the Institution was not ( so his opponents argued ) shut out from the sale of a presentation . That source of income would not be destroyed , on the contrary , it would be strengthened and augmented . He had been described laughingly to-day ir , this room as an arch fiend . If his Satanic majesty had the power of figures perhaps he might be able to calculate it ; he ( Bro . Russell ) had the power of figures as he wis in the
constant habit of dealing with them . In that way perhaps he was an arch fiend , but he was exercising his powers for the benefit of the Institutions . Some brethren might think he was doing the Institution damage by asking them to destroy perpetual presentations . That was not his view or the view of those who agreed with him . He contended that they were the real benefactors of the Institution . They wished instead of giving a single lump sum which would never
ecur to make them the recipients of an annually recurring sum until tim * should be no more . That was the view he asked the brethren to take now and adopt the report of tho Committee . He would unfold the whole case so that the Court might take an intelligent vote . He was going lo ask Ihem to re-appoint the Committee , lie would give a few figures showing how brethren , or a province , or lodge might perpetuate the name of some one they might delight to honour .
llro . J . II . MATTHEWS ( Chairman ) suggested that Bro . Russell was going to a new point ; his motion was for the adoption of the reioort . Bro . Russell was gong lo show how by another way a perpetual presentation might be obtained . Bro . Rissi ; 1 . 1 . said that £ 525 invested at 2 : ' , per cent ., if . £ 40 per' annum was spent , it would last 1 ( 1 years ; J £ l \ . o on the same terms would last 20 ; years ; £ 73 ^
, 25 . y ' -ars ; £ 840 , 31 ? years . There was no allowance for income tax in these calculat ons . To insure a male life aged 21 would cost £ 1 13 s . per cent . ; £ S 4 o at £ 1 1 3 * . per cent , would cost £ 13 14 s . 3 d . per annum ; £ 516 2 s . iod . at 2 ; per cent , would be £ 14 3 s . 1 id . This , less income tax—9 s . od . —would be £ 13 14 s . 5 d ., and the amount insured would bc £ 1356 . A life presentation whicli should last nearly
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32 years could be got for a capital sum of £ 840 , invested at 2 ? per cent . The insurance of a male life of 21 would cost 33 s . per cent . ; therefore , for a capital sum of £ S 4 o , plus 516 , which would cost £ 13 14 s . 5 d ., would be sufficient to produce what was required . They need have no fears as to passing the resolution , which bound the Institution from selling a perpetual presentation . He moved the adoption of the report .
Bro . J GLASS , P . M . 453 , seconded the motion . Although he was not a member of the Committee , he could say it was a representative Committee , and if it was not practically unaimous , the report was the report of the Committee . That was , to his mind , a sufficient recommendation for the Court to adopt it . Bro . Ressell had gone into it and verified it by figures lo which he had referred . With regard to the principle of perpetual principles he did not know that he had much to say upon it ; but his
own opinion was that unless some equitable provision could be arranged for the the contract for all time , he thought to receive money at the present time at present prices , without any means of getting out of it at all , was very critical , redemption at some future time of the perpetual presentations , so as to get rid of Those perpetual presentations were very slow to fail in . At the present time there were very few , and they did not come in every day , but he was sure the
brethren could not fail to observe that of late years , especially in Charitable Institutions , there had been a tendency to the extreme of Charity founded on commercial principles more than was the case in the past . He was afraid that the outcome of those presentations would be that local gifts would be looked after more closely , and that unless the Institutions were well guarded they would get into the hands of the few instead of the many .
Bro . STRACHAN , Q . C , said he came to the meeting with an entirely open mind . He though it was advisable , as far as practicable , that the Institution should go on the same lines as before with regard to perpetual presentations ; but , as Bro . Russell had brought up the question about 40 years , he would like to know what was to be done with the amount subscribed by a friend of the Institution for perpetuating the name of a province or brother .
Bro . W . RUSSELL said the money should be deposited as caution money for the insurance premium with the Institution . There would be a separate fund , as was done with the Science and Art Department . In that way it could be administered with the most perfect ease . Bro . C . E . KEYSER , P . G . D ., as one of the Committee , said the Committee were not unanimous . There were two from each Institution who were in favour
of the report , and one from each against . The Committee considered what should bc done for the future . They were met with this motion that no perpetual presentation at all should be accepted . He dissented from that j he thought it unfortunate if they did not allow benevolent brethren to connect their names with the Institution on thoroughly financial grounds . They should not accept sums which were not sufficient to provide for the object for which those sums were
given . But that was a matter of management , and if those sums had been accepted in the past which were not sufficient for the purpose , were they not to accept anything again ? Six brethren voted against the presentations and two for them ; and he did not think it worth while to say anything . He would move an amendment : " That in future perpetual presentations shall only be accepted by the three Institutions on the following conditions : —first a minimum amount to be agreed upon "
Bro . j . H , MATTHEWS said he thought Bro . Keyser should move that thc matter be referred back to the Committee , or that another Committee should bc appointed . Bro . KF . V . SKK did not wish to fix a hard and fast line as to the amount . The Institution should net put itself in a position to refuse a liberal bequest , say of
£ 5000 . If they accepted a perpetual presentation and gave up a vacancy , they were curtailing thc benefits of the Institution . He thought more than 1100 guineas should be the sum ; 1500 guineas would make it a bit safe . For financial reasons hc opposed the ( adoption of the report ; there should be no competitio 1 between the Institutions . Rro . W . H . SAUNDERS seconded the amendment .
Bro . J . E . LE FEUVRE asked the Chairman to reconsider his views as to the propriety of accepting Bro . Keyser ' s amendment . He thought the Quarterly Court were not in sympathy wilh Bro . Russell , but were prepared to support some other view . It would be a pity to refer this back to the same Committee ; it was rather an invidious thing to reject the report of one Committee , and then send it lo another . Bro . MATTHEWS thought the amendment was in order .
Bro . A . C . SPAULL apprehended that if this Quarterly Court came to the decision that this should not be adopted Sir John Monckton ' s proposition , which was before the last Quarterly Court would immediately come up for discussion , and on that Bro . Keyser would be in a position to bring his amendment forward and take a vote on it . Bro . KEYSER thought it would be better to refer the matter back . Bro . W . F . SMITHSON would certainly oppose Bro . Russell's motion . It was
most unwise to bring before the Quarterly Court a proposition that they were not to take a sum of money to perpetuate a brother ' s name . It was absolutely wrong and going away from the very groundwork of the Institutions to deprive men of wealth from giving their money voluntarily . Bro . Geo . Heaton gave 1100 guineas . Some brother found out it was too little , If it was , let them name a larger sum . All the brethren were good workers for the Institutions ; they did not want to prevent a
man giving 1500 or 2000 guineas . It was unwise lo refuse the money . ft was not always that Consols would be at 110 ; a few years hence money might be al five per cent . Take the money when there was the opportunity . The money of Bro . George Heaton had been in his ( Bro . Smithson ' s ) bank for months . It was not a question of 100 guineas more or 200 guineas more ; it was a question ol perpetuating a brother ' s name . He should vote in favour of the perpetual presentation .
Bro . MATTHEWS enquired whether [ the subject had been discussed at thc Boys' Institution . Bro . J . M . MCLEOD said only by the Board of Management . Bro . TEKKV said not by the Benevolent Institution . They had not had the report . Bro . KEYSER said his amendment was— "That the question bc referred back to the Committee to report on the terms on which perpetual presentations can bc accepted in the future . "
Bro . STANLEY J . ATTENHOROUHII suggested that the wording ought to be " should be . " They must give them authority to siy that they would accept perpetual presentations . Bro . J . E . Li : FEUVRE seconded . Bro . HUGH GOKOO . V thought they should consider what the terms of reference were . Bro . S . J . An'KNHOKOUUil said the matter came upon thc brethren by surprise . They never anticipated that perpetual presentations were to be vetoed ; the sole question belore the Court that day was whether they were to have
perpetual presentations . They had heard a good deal about the pounds , shillings , and pence principle . They should look at it sympathetically . The Secretaries would say that those who had given liked to give a ^ ain . Perpetual presentation ; were collected from numerous brethren ; they were true to tlieir old love , and gave again . Some presentations might be attached to lodges . The lodges might not have a candidate to present for years . That was for the benefit of the Institution . Let them try to get brethren to give large grants . It would be a sorry day when perpetual presentations were refused .