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United Orders Of The Temple And Hospital.
date by s @ 3 18 s . nd ., and therefore seeks the indemnity of Grand Conclave . The Grand Treasurer , considering the Banker ' s balance unnecessarily large , purchased at the same time , on account of the General Fund , .= £ 4 to Guaranteed
Five per Cent . Stock in the Bombay , Baroela , and Central Indian Railway Company . The reserve formerly possessed by Grand Conclave in Exchequer Bills had gradually melted away , until its funds were again placed on a solvent basis by
the vote of Grand Conclave in May , 1870 . Your Committee not only approves of the conduct of the Grand Treasurer , but congratulates Grand Conclave on the re-habilitation of its financial position — at one period so severely
threatened—and recommends that the indemnity sought be' granted to the Grand Treasurer . Resolutions for carrying into effect the
recommendations of this Report will be submitted to Grand Conclave . The Grand Treasurer reports that the Fund standing to the credit of the Grand Almoner
amounts to—Invested . ' £ -35 ° o o The General Fund of Grand Conclave to—Invested ^' 4 . 5 ° ° ° At Banker ' s ... 249 . 3 3 6 99 . 3 . 3
.- £ ' 1 , 049 . 3 ?> The Acting Grand Master read with deep feeling a letter from Sir Knt . AA il ! iam Stuart , Most Eminent and Supreme Grand Master ,
resigning his office , and recommending the new Statutes for the approval of Grand Conclave , and spoke with some emotion on the subject of the retirement of their venerable chief . Sir Knt .
General Clerk moved that the letter be entered on the minutes , which was seconded by Sir Knt . C . J . Vigne , and carried . An address from Grand Conclave to Sir Knt . Stuart , on his retirement , was read by the Grand Chancellor , approved
InGrand Conclave , and ordered to be inscribed on vellum . Sir Knt . Chandos Pole moved , and Sir Knt . Gumbleton seconded the motion , that the Report of the Committee be received and entered PR the minutes , which was carried .
air Knt . Chandos Pole and Sir Knt . A oung-Jnisband seconded the motion that the Report be adopted . Sir Knt . General Clerk rose with regret to oppose the motion , and to move an amendment tp the effect that the new Statutes of the Convent
General should be referred back to the Commissioners . He said that they could not be accepted by Grand Conclave , as the changes proposed in the Constitution of the Order were not only radical , they were revolutionary .
In the first p lace , he objected to the title Convent General , which was the title of the Order in France ; he objected to the introduction of the titles Grand Cross and Knight Commander ; the Order of Malta was under the Duke of
Manchester , what had we to do with it except as Masonic Knights ? AAI 10 had ever heard of the Grand Cross of the Masonic Knights Templar ? He objected to the elimination of the title Masonic ; and to the Royal Arch ( nullification
which , under the new Statutes , would be don away with . Sir Knt . Holden , E . C . Ancient York Encampment , Hull , seconded the amendment .
Sir Knt . the Earl of Limerick rose to defend the Statutes , and in an able and exhaustive manner disposed of the various objections which had been raised to the Statutes . He admitted that there were one * or two things which they might have
United Orders Of The Temple And Hospital.
liked altered , but the Sir Knig hts must remember they had to g ive and take ; the term Masonic was not used , he believed , in Scotland , and as to the . Royal Arch qualification , it was thought
better to give that up and to require candidates to be Master Masons of two years' standing instead . The sole object of the Commissioners was to effect a union with the other bodies of Scollan d
and Ireland , and it was most important that , as the Prince of Wales had seen and approved of these Statutes , which had been rati lied and
confirmed by the Grand Mastei's m England and Ireland , that they should be accepted in their entirety . The noble lord sat down amidst a pplause .
Sir Knight Emra Holmes , Grand Provost , said he rose with great diffidence to oppose the amendment of General Clerk , and to support the noble lord who had just spoken
Sir Knt . Gen . Clerk had objected to the style and title of the new ginerning body as the Convent General of the Order , and spoke of the
existence of another bod y bearing the same name ' . Well , he ( Sir Knt . Hohnes ) would venture to ask whether that body , the Convent General of the
Ordre tin temple ol France , did not become extinct in 1854 , or thereabouts ? At all events he was of opinion that it did not now exist . The Sir Knights no doubt knew that wh . 1 the Duke
of Sussex was Grand Master he wa ; appointed Grand Prior of England by Sir Sidney Smith , the Grand Master of the Ordre di : Temple of France . Some other Knights amongst them
were also members of that body , notably Bro . Woof , one of the Commissioners , and now that it was extinct we had a perfect right to assume the title . The Duke of Sussex had also sought
and obtained from the Emperor Alexander ol Russia the title of Grand Prior of tlie Order of -Malta in England . The Sir Kni ghts would remember that his predecessor , the Emperor
Paul , was elected Grand Master of the Kni ghts of Malta , soon after the taking of Alalia , when a large number of the Knights lied to Russia , and were taken under his protection . Taaff ' c , in
his History of the' Order , staled this , and admitted the right of the Knights to elect him . As to the title Masonic , he thought it a matter indifferent as to whether it was retained or not , but certainly
they had as great a right to call themselves Knights Templar , ami Kni ghts of Malta , as the body who were under the swav of the Duke of ManchesU : ' . A body of Knights met in Paris , and
reiivcd the English langue of the < > rdix , but as Protestants , and bearing in mind it was a Papal Order , they had no more' right toenail themselves Kni ghts of Malta , than the Sir Kni ghts present had . lie regretted for one that the Roval Arch
qualification was not going to he retained , but the Sir Knights must remember that as the Earl of Limerick had said , they had l >> give am ! lake .
and he supposed , although no longer necessary , no one would he debarred from taking the Royal Arch who cared to do so . In Scjlland at one time
it was not necessary to be a . A la- ' on at all to become a Knight Templar . General Clerk had asked who e \ vr heard of Masonic Knights Grand
Cross . He , the speaker , had . The Grand Gross was given in Scotland , and in his old encampment , the Royal Kent at Newcastle-on-Tyne , ihev also gaye it . Where they got it he did not know .
United Orders Of The Temple And Hospital.
but he- thought most probably from Scotland . Of course the old Knights Templar had no such thine , any more than the Order of the
Garter , but the Knights of Malta had both grades , and he saw no objection to the introducion of the same into the statutes of the United
Orders . The great thing to attain was unity ; he should like to see the three Orders in England , Ireland , and Scotland united under one head : and why should not the whole body
throughout the world join under one Grand Master ? The object of the statutes was to bring this about , and then , instead of three or four bodies , mutually repudiating each other , and
looked upon , as a matter of course , by outsiders , as shams , we should have one great united body —an order of Chivalry , in reality . In the Craft we assert the universal brotherhood of
men ; in the Order of the Temple the . object of the new Constitution was to bring about and assert a universal brotherhood of gentlemen , fie should most strongly support the statutes .
Sir Knt . Hutton Gregory said he had listened with patience to what the well-known brother who had just sat down had said , but he was at a
loss to know how to follow his reasoning that three shams would make a reality . He gathered from the statutes that there ; would be no such
tiling as Past Rank , which was to be done away with , and he for one should naturally oppose a Statute which did away with his rights and privileges as a Past Grand Officer .
Sir Knt . Holmes rose to order . He did not say that we were shams , or that the union of three shams would make a reality ; what he did say was this , that whilst the various Orders of
Templars were separated and repudiated each other , the world outside would look upon them as shams , but once united , they would be recognised as a great reality . ( Hear , hear . )
Sir Knt . Lord Eliot rose to support the motion , and said that if they read the Statutes it must be plain to all that all rights and privileges of Past Grand Officers were reserved . The noble
lord spoke with considerable force , and warmly advocated the acceptance of the statutes , as they could scarcely expect the Prince of Wales , who had approved of them , to accept office as Grand
Master , if they were not passed , and the union not effected . Sir Knt . Lambert asked wh y Scotland had refused to come in , and was informed that all that could be said was that she had refused .
Sir Knt . Jones was in favour of the amendment , and thought it best to have time to consider the statutes . Sir Knt . W . H . Wright , D . P . G . G , Lancashire , also spoke in support of
the amendment . Sir Knt . Holden thought there would be a difficulty in getting the loan of Masonic Halls if the Masonic qualification was in any way interfered with . Sir Knt . Montague
also spoke- in favour of the amendment . He thought the Preceptors in the Convent-General would be swamped by the officers appointed b y the (/ rand Master . Lord Limerick stated in
explanation that Past E . Commanders , having once' attained the rank of Preceptors , would always retain their ri g ht to sit and vote in the
Convent-Genera ] . The statutes were entirely prospective . Grand Officers would enjoy no past rank , however , as such . The Grand Chan-
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United Orders Of The Temple And Hospital.
date by s @ 3 18 s . nd ., and therefore seeks the indemnity of Grand Conclave . The Grand Treasurer , considering the Banker ' s balance unnecessarily large , purchased at the same time , on account of the General Fund , .= £ 4 to Guaranteed
Five per Cent . Stock in the Bombay , Baroela , and Central Indian Railway Company . The reserve formerly possessed by Grand Conclave in Exchequer Bills had gradually melted away , until its funds were again placed on a solvent basis by
the vote of Grand Conclave in May , 1870 . Your Committee not only approves of the conduct of the Grand Treasurer , but congratulates Grand Conclave on the re-habilitation of its financial position — at one period so severely
threatened—and recommends that the indemnity sought be' granted to the Grand Treasurer . Resolutions for carrying into effect the
recommendations of this Report will be submitted to Grand Conclave . The Grand Treasurer reports that the Fund standing to the credit of the Grand Almoner
amounts to—Invested . ' £ -35 ° o o The General Fund of Grand Conclave to—Invested ^' 4 . 5 ° ° ° At Banker ' s ... 249 . 3 3 6 99 . 3 . 3
.- £ ' 1 , 049 . 3 ?> The Acting Grand Master read with deep feeling a letter from Sir Knt . AA il ! iam Stuart , Most Eminent and Supreme Grand Master ,
resigning his office , and recommending the new Statutes for the approval of Grand Conclave , and spoke with some emotion on the subject of the retirement of their venerable chief . Sir Knt .
General Clerk moved that the letter be entered on the minutes , which was seconded by Sir Knt . C . J . Vigne , and carried . An address from Grand Conclave to Sir Knt . Stuart , on his retirement , was read by the Grand Chancellor , approved
InGrand Conclave , and ordered to be inscribed on vellum . Sir Knt . Chandos Pole moved , and Sir Knt . Gumbleton seconded the motion , that the Report of the Committee be received and entered PR the minutes , which was carried .
air Knt . Chandos Pole and Sir Knt . A oung-Jnisband seconded the motion that the Report be adopted . Sir Knt . General Clerk rose with regret to oppose the motion , and to move an amendment tp the effect that the new Statutes of the Convent
General should be referred back to the Commissioners . He said that they could not be accepted by Grand Conclave , as the changes proposed in the Constitution of the Order were not only radical , they were revolutionary .
In the first p lace , he objected to the title Convent General , which was the title of the Order in France ; he objected to the introduction of the titles Grand Cross and Knight Commander ; the Order of Malta was under the Duke of
Manchester , what had we to do with it except as Masonic Knights ? AAI 10 had ever heard of the Grand Cross of the Masonic Knights Templar ? He objected to the elimination of the title Masonic ; and to the Royal Arch ( nullification
which , under the new Statutes , would be don away with . Sir Knt . Holden , E . C . Ancient York Encampment , Hull , seconded the amendment .
Sir Knt . the Earl of Limerick rose to defend the Statutes , and in an able and exhaustive manner disposed of the various objections which had been raised to the Statutes . He admitted that there were one * or two things which they might have
United Orders Of The Temple And Hospital.
liked altered , but the Sir Knig hts must remember they had to g ive and take ; the term Masonic was not used , he believed , in Scotland , and as to the . Royal Arch qualification , it was thought
better to give that up and to require candidates to be Master Masons of two years' standing instead . The sole object of the Commissioners was to effect a union with the other bodies of Scollan d
and Ireland , and it was most important that , as the Prince of Wales had seen and approved of these Statutes , which had been rati lied and
confirmed by the Grand Mastei's m England and Ireland , that they should be accepted in their entirety . The noble lord sat down amidst a pplause .
Sir Knight Emra Holmes , Grand Provost , said he rose with great diffidence to oppose the amendment of General Clerk , and to support the noble lord who had just spoken
Sir Knt . Gen . Clerk had objected to the style and title of the new ginerning body as the Convent General of the Order , and spoke of the
existence of another bod y bearing the same name ' . Well , he ( Sir Knt . Hohnes ) would venture to ask whether that body , the Convent General of the
Ordre tin temple ol France , did not become extinct in 1854 , or thereabouts ? At all events he was of opinion that it did not now exist . The Sir Knights no doubt knew that wh . 1 the Duke
of Sussex was Grand Master he wa ; appointed Grand Prior of England by Sir Sidney Smith , the Grand Master of the Ordre di : Temple of France . Some other Knights amongst them
were also members of that body , notably Bro . Woof , one of the Commissioners , and now that it was extinct we had a perfect right to assume the title . The Duke of Sussex had also sought
and obtained from the Emperor Alexander ol Russia the title of Grand Prior of tlie Order of -Malta in England . The Sir Kni ghts would remember that his predecessor , the Emperor
Paul , was elected Grand Master of the Kni ghts of Malta , soon after the taking of Alalia , when a large number of the Knights lied to Russia , and were taken under his protection . Taaff ' c , in
his History of the' Order , staled this , and admitted the right of the Knights to elect him . As to the title Masonic , he thought it a matter indifferent as to whether it was retained or not , but certainly
they had as great a right to call themselves Knights Templar , ami Kni ghts of Malta , as the body who were under the swav of the Duke of ManchesU : ' . A body of Knights met in Paris , and
reiivcd the English langue of the < > rdix , but as Protestants , and bearing in mind it was a Papal Order , they had no more' right toenail themselves Kni ghts of Malta , than the Sir Kni ghts present had . lie regretted for one that the Roval Arch
qualification was not going to he retained , but the Sir Knights must remember that as the Earl of Limerick had said , they had l >> give am ! lake .
and he supposed , although no longer necessary , no one would he debarred from taking the Royal Arch who cared to do so . In Scjlland at one time
it was not necessary to be a . A la- ' on at all to become a Knight Templar . General Clerk had asked who e \ vr heard of Masonic Knights Grand
Cross . He , the speaker , had . The Grand Gross was given in Scotland , and in his old encampment , the Royal Kent at Newcastle-on-Tyne , ihev also gaye it . Where they got it he did not know .
United Orders Of The Temple And Hospital.
but he- thought most probably from Scotland . Of course the old Knights Templar had no such thine , any more than the Order of the
Garter , but the Knights of Malta had both grades , and he saw no objection to the introducion of the same into the statutes of the United
Orders . The great thing to attain was unity ; he should like to see the three Orders in England , Ireland , and Scotland united under one head : and why should not the whole body
throughout the world join under one Grand Master ? The object of the statutes was to bring this about , and then , instead of three or four bodies , mutually repudiating each other , and
looked upon , as a matter of course , by outsiders , as shams , we should have one great united body —an order of Chivalry , in reality . In the Craft we assert the universal brotherhood of
men ; in the Order of the Temple the . object of the new Constitution was to bring about and assert a universal brotherhood of gentlemen , fie should most strongly support the statutes .
Sir Knt . Hutton Gregory said he had listened with patience to what the well-known brother who had just sat down had said , but he was at a
loss to know how to follow his reasoning that three shams would make a reality . He gathered from the statutes that there ; would be no such
tiling as Past Rank , which was to be done away with , and he for one should naturally oppose a Statute which did away with his rights and privileges as a Past Grand Officer .
Sir Knt . Holmes rose to order . He did not say that we were shams , or that the union of three shams would make a reality ; what he did say was this , that whilst the various Orders of
Templars were separated and repudiated each other , the world outside would look upon them as shams , but once united , they would be recognised as a great reality . ( Hear , hear . )
Sir Knt . Lord Eliot rose to support the motion , and said that if they read the Statutes it must be plain to all that all rights and privileges of Past Grand Officers were reserved . The noble
lord spoke with considerable force , and warmly advocated the acceptance of the statutes , as they could scarcely expect the Prince of Wales , who had approved of them , to accept office as Grand
Master , if they were not passed , and the union not effected . Sir Knt . Lambert asked wh y Scotland had refused to come in , and was informed that all that could be said was that she had refused .
Sir Knt . Jones was in favour of the amendment , and thought it best to have time to consider the statutes . Sir Knt . W . H . Wright , D . P . G . G , Lancashire , also spoke in support of
the amendment . Sir Knt . Holden thought there would be a difficulty in getting the loan of Masonic Halls if the Masonic qualification was in any way interfered with . Sir Knt . Montague
also spoke- in favour of the amendment . He thought the Preceptors in the Convent-General would be swamped by the officers appointed b y the (/ rand Master . Lord Limerick stated in
explanation that Past E . Commanders , having once' attained the rank of Preceptors , would always retain their ri g ht to sit and vote in the
Convent-Genera ] . The statutes were entirely prospective . Grand Officers would enjoy no past rank , however , as such . The Grand Chan-