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Bro. Emra Holmes's Lecture On The Orders Of The Temple And Hospital.
land ( which perhaps accounts for what we have read ) , he was a magistrate , was appointed Chaplain Extraodinary to the King in May , 1800 , was a Knight Grand Cross of the Royal Order
of St . Stanislaus of Poland , aud received permission , under the sign manual of George III . dated 2 nd October , 1804 , to nse the dignity and wear the insignia . I will leave the " trenchant "
friend , and the memory Sir Robert Peat , in the hands of your readers . Bro . Holmes says he will answer my statements " in a few words , " and he then proceeds ,
not to answer one single statement , but to struggle in ' vain with what he sujiposes are three errors on my part , but of which he seems unable to see that he has himself demonstrated the
truth . He wishes to shew ( he " likes to be particular" ) that because the Polish Priory was once connected with the Anglo-Bavarian branch of
the Order , and was subsequently seized by Russia , that therefore Russia and the Anglo-Bavarian branch of the Order must be connected . The Graud Priorate of Poland no doubt was for
a long time connected with the Anglo-Bavarian , but its seizure by Russia had no effect in joining the latter to the Anglo-Bavarian . Thc Russian
Order is divided into two Grand Priorates , for the Knights of the Greek and of the Roman Catholic confession .
In another sujiposed error 1 am at one with Bro . Holmes , " that though re-established , the Protestant Anglican langue has no connection with the foreign branches of the Fraternity " , and
I assent lo the proposition of my friend Colonel Porter , with which Bro . Holmes agrees , that the dormant langue of England was once more revived and again established , although
without connection with the foreign branches of the Fraternity , " It was revived by a majority oi the Order , but is not in connection with any foreign branches , excepting [ its amicable
relations with the Bailiwick of Brandenburg Bro . Holmes quotes the election of a Grand Master during the life of his predecessor as an arrangement for the election of the Emperor
Paul , but -he tells us , in the same paragraph , that it was made by the whole Order and not by a few refugees , Sir G . Bowyer truly says it was
recognized , although irregular , and thus it creates a precedent which can never be ignored . Bro . Holmes ' s table of Grand Masters must be
incorrect ; I'onseca was the 66 th Grand Master , ( not the 68 th ) , Hompesch the 69 th , ( not the 7 isti , Paul the 70 th , ( not the 72 nd ) , and Tommasi the 71 st , ( not the 73 rd ) . If his new , and
( I may , I hope-without oftence , add ) strange allies do not lend him more accurate documents than this , he must be careful how he gives too much faith to their contents . He cannot expect to
hnd in such a list the names of members of the protestant langue , nor of other lawful bodies of the Order , Russian , Prussian , Austrian , and
others ; but it is weak and futile to sugges that these are not legal branches , and that nothing can be lawful which is not put forward by Bro . Holmes ' s newly formed allies .
Die " Student" laid us that Bro . Holmes sought to prove for the Masonic Kni ghts of St . John a constitution , " in direct succession , through the English Langue . " If this be so
Bro. Emra Holmes's Lecture On The Orders Of The Temple And Hospital.
Bro . Holmes is sadly deserting his masonic friends when he admits that they are only " ad initationem . " Is this also a trimming of the sails , or why did not Bro . Holmes say so before ,
instead of making comparisons with the Order which lie says many think illegally revived , and which claims a legitimate succession . Your readers have seen an extract from the
letter of the Duke of Sussex , and can judge for themselves . I need only add to it that I know the Duke did not look upon the English langue
as spurious ; I know that he was not a Knight of St . John , and I am acquainted with his reasons for declining to become a member of the Order .
Additional Notes On The United Orders Of The Temple And Hospital.
ADDITIONAL NOTES ON THE UNITED ORDERS OF THE TEMPLE AND HOSPITAL .
BY BRO . EMRA HOLMES , 31 . Grand Provost of England : —Precejitor of the Prudence Preceptory of Knights Templar ; Prior of the Prudence Priory of Knights of Malta & c , & c . The accompanying document , the original of which was in my possession till within the last
few days , was sent from the head quarters of thc Order of St . John of Jerusalem at Rome , in [ 858 to Sir George Bowyer , Bart ., ALP ., who is a simple Knig ht of the Order , and nothing more . Sir . George was instructed by the then head ol the Order , to send certified copies of it to Prince
/ Vibert and the Lord Chamberlain , so that the jiersons against whom it was directed ( the body under the Duke of Manchester ) , should not wear spurious decorations at Court . It may not be generally known that the late Prince Consort was particularly anxious to be
admitted into this Order , and applied to the Pope , since being a Protestant ( technically a heretic ) , hc was dehors the regula of the order . The Pope replied he had no power in the matter , the governing body of the Order liaving alone the right to create knights . The Prince then applied
through several other channels , and ultimately the Emperor of Austria moved the Pope to grant a dispensation to the Order of certain obligations inconsistent with the Reformed Religion , if the Order choose to admit him , for the order cannot admit a " heretic , " or non-Catholic without
dispensation , and the Pope cannot create any one a knig ht . Thus the Prince was admitted—but not to the Order whicii the Duke of Manchester governs , and which by this act he repudiated . I have it on authority from Sir George Bowyer himself , who speaks of the body which Bro . Lupus
is pleased to champion , as " the pretended langue , " that copies of this important document were sent to the Prince ( who became by papal dispensation , a Grand Cross of the Order ) to the Home Secretary , and to the Lord Chamberlain , as I have before stated ; and they each and all
all acknowledged the receipt . With all due deference to "A Masonic Student , " I don ' t see very clearly , why , in giving Notes of the United Orders of the Temple and Hospital . I should be excluded from bringing under discussion the claims of the various bodies . The
Masonic Knights of Malta claim a descent from the Hospitallers , just as the Masonic Templars do from the old Knights , and as far as I know , they have quite as good grounds for believing that descent to be real and not chimerical .
Magistere de 1 Ordre de ? « St . Jean de Jerusalem . ) ' ' Les soussignes , chevaliers et fonctionnaire 8 de VOrdre Souveraine de St . Jean de Jerusalem , etant venus en connaissance d ' un " Synoptical Sketch , " public a Londres liar un honorable
soeiete qui s ' mtitule " Sovereign Order of St . John of Jerusalem Anglia , " et ayant remarqiie que dans ies listes qui y sont annexees sont portes leurs noms , aitisi que celui de Son Excellence Reverendissime Fra Phillippe de Colloredo , Lieutenant du Grand Magistere , resident temporaircment a Rome , senl successeur legitime des Grands
Additional Notes On The United Orders Of The Temple And Hospital.
Maitres , et Lieutenant du Magistere de l'Ordre de St . Jean de Jerusalem , ayant residee successivement ii Jerusalem , a Rhodes , a Malta , a St . Petersbourg , ti Cataine , ii Ferrare , et il Rome , et ne voulant pas que les inductions erronnees puissent etre tirees du fait de I ' ajouction de ses noms aux
listes precetees , declarant au nom et par ordre de Son Excellence le Venerable Lieutenant du Grand Magistere , ainsi qu ' en" leur propre nom , que l'Ordre de Saint Jean de Jerusalem , dont Son Excellence est le chef , commes ils en sont les fonctionnaires , n ' a jamais etc dans aucune
connexion orgamque avec Ia susdite societe , ni a son origine , ni pins tare ] , soit a l ' egard de son organisation , soit a celui de sa composition personelle , ou de son activite . Les Grands Prieures de l'Ordre dans les langues d'ltalie et d'AHemange , qui senles ont encore une existence legitime ,
d apres les statuts de l'Ordre , et qui sont en communion de jurisdiction et d ' obeissance avec le Grand Magistere et Conseil , resident temporairement ii Rome , sont : i ° Le Grand Prieure de Rome , 2 . Le Grand Prieure Lombardo-Venetien , y compris Parme et Modine , 3 ° Le Grand Prieure
de Boheme . L existence des Chevaliers de St . Jean en Prttsse qui se rattachent par une succession legitime et non interompue a l ' ancien Grand Baillage de Bandebourg , est reconnue par l'Ordre commne parfaitement l ' egale , quoique cette branche soit placee depius plusieurs siecles
par des raisons epeciales en dehors de Ia jurisdiction ordinaire et continue du Grand Magistere . Le petit nombre de Chevaliers decore de la Croix de devotion qui par leur naissance n ' apjiartiennent . ii aucune des jPrieures ni il aucune des langues legalement encore existante , ne sont
reconnus par notre ordre que paruque et pour autant qu'ils out etc reeus par le Magistere et Conseil " in siitu religionis" ou qu'ils y ont ettt admis moyennant une Bulle de devotion delivree en toutc forme par cette menie autorite . Hors de ces langues , de ces Prieures , et des
Chevaliers ainsi crees ou constitutes , tout ceux qui pourraientse diretcls sont legalment ignores par notre Saint Ordre . C ' est it ces causes que son Excellence le Chef de notre Order et les soussignes desircnt et demandent d ' etre rayes et
declarent qu'ils se regardent , des ii present , coramc rayes des listes publiees dans ce "Synoptical Sketch , " ou ils n ' ont ancun droit dc figurer . Fait il Rome , au Palais Magistral de l'Ordre Souverain de St . Jean de Jerusalem , le 16 Deeembre , 1868 .
Le Commandeur ( Comte ) Fra Averardo De Medine Sjiada vice Chevalier de l'Ordre Souverain dc St . Jean de Jerusalem . Le Chevalier ( Comte ) Luca te Gozze , Secretaire Magistral du tneme Ordre .
IRA . NSLAT 10 N . Magistere de l'Ordre de ? St . Jean de Jerusalem . J KoME - The undersigned , Knights and officers of the Sovereign Order of St . J ohn of Jerusalem , having heard of a " Synoptical Sketch " published in
London by an honourable society which styles itself Sovereign Order of St . John of Jerusalem of the Anglican Langue , and having remarked that in the lists annexed thereto their names are included , as well as that of his Excellency the most Reverend Brother Fillippe di Colleredo , Lieutenant of the Grand Mastery now residing
at Rome , the only legitimate successor of the Grand Masters , and Lieutenant of thc Mastery of the Order of St . John of Jerusalem , who were domiciled successively at Jerusalem , Rhodes , Malta , St . Petersburg , Catania , Ferrara , and at Rome ; and not wishing that erroneous inferences should be drawn from the fact of the connexion of these names with the
preceding lists , declare in the name and by the Order of his Excellency the Venerable Lieutenant of the Grand Mastery , as well as their own name , that the Order of St . John of Jerusalem , of which his Excellence is the chief , and of which they are the officers that they have neverhad
any organized connexion whatever with the above mentioned society , neither at the formation , or at any latter jieriod , either with regard to its organistion or its personal composition or operation . The Grand Priories of the Order in the Italian and German langues , which alone have still a
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Bro. Emra Holmes's Lecture On The Orders Of The Temple And Hospital.
land ( which perhaps accounts for what we have read ) , he was a magistrate , was appointed Chaplain Extraodinary to the King in May , 1800 , was a Knight Grand Cross of the Royal Order
of St . Stanislaus of Poland , aud received permission , under the sign manual of George III . dated 2 nd October , 1804 , to nse the dignity and wear the insignia . I will leave the " trenchant "
friend , and the memory Sir Robert Peat , in the hands of your readers . Bro . Holmes says he will answer my statements " in a few words , " and he then proceeds ,
not to answer one single statement , but to struggle in ' vain with what he sujiposes are three errors on my part , but of which he seems unable to see that he has himself demonstrated the
truth . He wishes to shew ( he " likes to be particular" ) that because the Polish Priory was once connected with the Anglo-Bavarian branch of
the Order , and was subsequently seized by Russia , that therefore Russia and the Anglo-Bavarian branch of the Order must be connected . The Graud Priorate of Poland no doubt was for
a long time connected with the Anglo-Bavarian , but its seizure by Russia had no effect in joining the latter to the Anglo-Bavarian . Thc Russian
Order is divided into two Grand Priorates , for the Knights of the Greek and of the Roman Catholic confession .
In another sujiposed error 1 am at one with Bro . Holmes , " that though re-established , the Protestant Anglican langue has no connection with the foreign branches of the Fraternity " , and
I assent lo the proposition of my friend Colonel Porter , with which Bro . Holmes agrees , that the dormant langue of England was once more revived and again established , although
without connection with the foreign branches of the Fraternity , " It was revived by a majority oi the Order , but is not in connection with any foreign branches , excepting [ its amicable
relations with the Bailiwick of Brandenburg Bro . Holmes quotes the election of a Grand Master during the life of his predecessor as an arrangement for the election of the Emperor
Paul , but -he tells us , in the same paragraph , that it was made by the whole Order and not by a few refugees , Sir G . Bowyer truly says it was
recognized , although irregular , and thus it creates a precedent which can never be ignored . Bro . Holmes ' s table of Grand Masters must be
incorrect ; I'onseca was the 66 th Grand Master , ( not the 68 th ) , Hompesch the 69 th , ( not the 7 isti , Paul the 70 th , ( not the 72 nd ) , and Tommasi the 71 st , ( not the 73 rd ) . If his new , and
( I may , I hope-without oftence , add ) strange allies do not lend him more accurate documents than this , he must be careful how he gives too much faith to their contents . He cannot expect to
hnd in such a list the names of members of the protestant langue , nor of other lawful bodies of the Order , Russian , Prussian , Austrian , and
others ; but it is weak and futile to sugges that these are not legal branches , and that nothing can be lawful which is not put forward by Bro . Holmes ' s newly formed allies .
Die " Student" laid us that Bro . Holmes sought to prove for the Masonic Kni ghts of St . John a constitution , " in direct succession , through the English Langue . " If this be so
Bro. Emra Holmes's Lecture On The Orders Of The Temple And Hospital.
Bro . Holmes is sadly deserting his masonic friends when he admits that they are only " ad initationem . " Is this also a trimming of the sails , or why did not Bro . Holmes say so before ,
instead of making comparisons with the Order which lie says many think illegally revived , and which claims a legitimate succession . Your readers have seen an extract from the
letter of the Duke of Sussex , and can judge for themselves . I need only add to it that I know the Duke did not look upon the English langue
as spurious ; I know that he was not a Knight of St . John , and I am acquainted with his reasons for declining to become a member of the Order .
Additional Notes On The United Orders Of The Temple And Hospital.
ADDITIONAL NOTES ON THE UNITED ORDERS OF THE TEMPLE AND HOSPITAL .
BY BRO . EMRA HOLMES , 31 . Grand Provost of England : —Precejitor of the Prudence Preceptory of Knights Templar ; Prior of the Prudence Priory of Knights of Malta & c , & c . The accompanying document , the original of which was in my possession till within the last
few days , was sent from the head quarters of thc Order of St . John of Jerusalem at Rome , in [ 858 to Sir George Bowyer , Bart ., ALP ., who is a simple Knig ht of the Order , and nothing more . Sir . George was instructed by the then head ol the Order , to send certified copies of it to Prince
/ Vibert and the Lord Chamberlain , so that the jiersons against whom it was directed ( the body under the Duke of Manchester ) , should not wear spurious decorations at Court . It may not be generally known that the late Prince Consort was particularly anxious to be
admitted into this Order , and applied to the Pope , since being a Protestant ( technically a heretic ) , hc was dehors the regula of the order . The Pope replied he had no power in the matter , the governing body of the Order liaving alone the right to create knights . The Prince then applied
through several other channels , and ultimately the Emperor of Austria moved the Pope to grant a dispensation to the Order of certain obligations inconsistent with the Reformed Religion , if the Order choose to admit him , for the order cannot admit a " heretic , " or non-Catholic without
dispensation , and the Pope cannot create any one a knig ht . Thus the Prince was admitted—but not to the Order whicii the Duke of Manchester governs , and which by this act he repudiated . I have it on authority from Sir George Bowyer himself , who speaks of the body which Bro . Lupus
is pleased to champion , as " the pretended langue , " that copies of this important document were sent to the Prince ( who became by papal dispensation , a Grand Cross of the Order ) to the Home Secretary , and to the Lord Chamberlain , as I have before stated ; and they each and all
all acknowledged the receipt . With all due deference to "A Masonic Student , " I don ' t see very clearly , why , in giving Notes of the United Orders of the Temple and Hospital . I should be excluded from bringing under discussion the claims of the various bodies . The
Masonic Knights of Malta claim a descent from the Hospitallers , just as the Masonic Templars do from the old Knights , and as far as I know , they have quite as good grounds for believing that descent to be real and not chimerical .
Magistere de 1 Ordre de ? « St . Jean de Jerusalem . ) ' ' Les soussignes , chevaliers et fonctionnaire 8 de VOrdre Souveraine de St . Jean de Jerusalem , etant venus en connaissance d ' un " Synoptical Sketch , " public a Londres liar un honorable
soeiete qui s ' mtitule " Sovereign Order of St . John of Jerusalem Anglia , " et ayant remarqiie que dans ies listes qui y sont annexees sont portes leurs noms , aitisi que celui de Son Excellence Reverendissime Fra Phillippe de Colloredo , Lieutenant du Grand Magistere , resident temporaircment a Rome , senl successeur legitime des Grands
Additional Notes On The United Orders Of The Temple And Hospital.
Maitres , et Lieutenant du Magistere de l'Ordre de St . Jean de Jerusalem , ayant residee successivement ii Jerusalem , a Rhodes , a Malta , a St . Petersbourg , ti Cataine , ii Ferrare , et il Rome , et ne voulant pas que les inductions erronnees puissent etre tirees du fait de I ' ajouction de ses noms aux
listes precetees , declarant au nom et par ordre de Son Excellence le Venerable Lieutenant du Grand Magistere , ainsi qu ' en" leur propre nom , que l'Ordre de Saint Jean de Jerusalem , dont Son Excellence est le chef , commes ils en sont les fonctionnaires , n ' a jamais etc dans aucune
connexion orgamque avec Ia susdite societe , ni a son origine , ni pins tare ] , soit a l ' egard de son organisation , soit a celui de sa composition personelle , ou de son activite . Les Grands Prieures de l'Ordre dans les langues d'ltalie et d'AHemange , qui senles ont encore une existence legitime ,
d apres les statuts de l'Ordre , et qui sont en communion de jurisdiction et d ' obeissance avec le Grand Magistere et Conseil , resident temporairement ii Rome , sont : i ° Le Grand Prieure de Rome , 2 . Le Grand Prieure Lombardo-Venetien , y compris Parme et Modine , 3 ° Le Grand Prieure
de Boheme . L existence des Chevaliers de St . Jean en Prttsse qui se rattachent par une succession legitime et non interompue a l ' ancien Grand Baillage de Bandebourg , est reconnue par l'Ordre commne parfaitement l ' egale , quoique cette branche soit placee depius plusieurs siecles
par des raisons epeciales en dehors de Ia jurisdiction ordinaire et continue du Grand Magistere . Le petit nombre de Chevaliers decore de la Croix de devotion qui par leur naissance n ' apjiartiennent . ii aucune des jPrieures ni il aucune des langues legalement encore existante , ne sont
reconnus par notre ordre que paruque et pour autant qu'ils out etc reeus par le Magistere et Conseil " in siitu religionis" ou qu'ils y ont ettt admis moyennant une Bulle de devotion delivree en toutc forme par cette menie autorite . Hors de ces langues , de ces Prieures , et des
Chevaliers ainsi crees ou constitutes , tout ceux qui pourraientse diretcls sont legalment ignores par notre Saint Ordre . C ' est it ces causes que son Excellence le Chef de notre Order et les soussignes desircnt et demandent d ' etre rayes et
declarent qu'ils se regardent , des ii present , coramc rayes des listes publiees dans ce "Synoptical Sketch , " ou ils n ' ont ancun droit dc figurer . Fait il Rome , au Palais Magistral de l'Ordre Souverain de St . Jean de Jerusalem , le 16 Deeembre , 1868 .
Le Commandeur ( Comte ) Fra Averardo De Medine Sjiada vice Chevalier de l'Ordre Souverain dc St . Jean de Jerusalem . Le Chevalier ( Comte ) Luca te Gozze , Secretaire Magistral du tneme Ordre .
IRA . NSLAT 10 N . Magistere de l'Ordre de ? St . Jean de Jerusalem . J KoME - The undersigned , Knights and officers of the Sovereign Order of St . J ohn of Jerusalem , having heard of a " Synoptical Sketch " published in
London by an honourable society which styles itself Sovereign Order of St . John of Jerusalem of the Anglican Langue , and having remarked that in the lists annexed thereto their names are included , as well as that of his Excellency the most Reverend Brother Fillippe di Colleredo , Lieutenant of the Grand Mastery now residing
at Rome , the only legitimate successor of the Grand Masters , and Lieutenant of thc Mastery of the Order of St . John of Jerusalem , who were domiciled successively at Jerusalem , Rhodes , Malta , St . Petersburg , Catania , Ferrara , and at Rome ; and not wishing that erroneous inferences should be drawn from the fact of the connexion of these names with the
preceding lists , declare in the name and by the Order of his Excellency the Venerable Lieutenant of the Grand Mastery , as well as their own name , that the Order of St . John of Jerusalem , of which his Excellence is the chief , and of which they are the officers that they have neverhad
any organized connexion whatever with the above mentioned society , neither at the formation , or at any latter jieriod , either with regard to its organistion or its personal composition or operation . The Grand Priories of the Order in the Italian and German langues , which alone have still a