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Multum In Parbo, Or Masonic Notes And Queries.
Multum in Parbo , or Masonic Notes and Queries .
? ENGLISH GILDS . I am obliged , certainly , to Bro . " Lupus " for his kind information , ancl suppose that I must make up my mind to speculate . I trust the book will prove worthy of the price . W . P . B .
A JEWISH LEGEND . I am obliged to Bro . "Stoltz " for his remarks at page 188 , for since he has kindly informed us that this " Jewish Legend " is only an " absurd
fable , " my mind is quite relieved . To merely fancy the effect that would have been produced had this legend really been true , is too terrible so I draw the veil . W . P . B .
SOLOMON AND FREEMASONRY ( page l 8 l ) . May I ask the meaning of the assertion " he ( Solomon ) is certainly the only monotheistic
originator of Masonic ideas in all antiquity ?" To me it appears to be nothing but an American Masonic dream , any way you like to take it . AV . P . B .
CONSTANTINE AND THE LABARUM . At page 189 I find Bro . Doric remarking - . " This standard or ensign called' Labarum , ' i . e . the end of the tail . " Now I want to know the meaning of , and the authority he has for
this definition ? More especially do I ask this on account of having made certain statements at page 18 of THE FREEMASON for July , 1 S 6 9 , which statements I am quite ready to withdraw when satisfied they are wrong . LEO .
A GOOD REGULATION . Any member ofthe degrees of this Rite above the 29 becoming bankrupt or effecting a
composition with his creditors , shall ipso facto cease to be a member of these degrees , and his name shall be struck off the list accordingly . NOTA .
Does the W . M . of a lodge , immediately after installation , thereupon become a Past Master ; or is he nota P . M . until the expiration of his year of office ? G . B . SCHOLES . [ He becomes a P . M . upon the completion of his term of office in the chair . —ED . F . ]
Kindly inform me if R . A . Chapters in England ancl Scotland admit companions exalted under Irish warrants as visitors ? Also , if English Encampments of H . K . T . ' s admit Irish Templars ? The above information will much
oblige AN IRISH R . A . MASON . [ Yes ; both Chapters ancl Encampments admit companions from Ireland if duly qualified . ]
In 1782 there was a Provincial Grand Lodge in Russia , the Provincial Grand Master being " His Excellency John Yelaguine , Senator , Privy Councillor , Member of the Cabinet , & c ,
to Her Imperial Majesty the Empress of Russia , and Knight of the Polish Order of the White Eagle , and of St . Stanislaus . What became of this lodge ? Moscow ,
The Strasburgh Masonic Constitutions of 1459 are given , I am told , in Findel ' s " History of Freemasonry . " Where is this book to be obtained ? QUERIST .
BRO . BUCHAN AND THE I 717 THEORY In Bro . W . P . Buchan ' s letter to you , appearing at page 108 , he admits that ' •there were Operative Freemasons long before A . D . 1717 . " This I have always said , I do not recollect
of having said " present method" being , I think , the only words to which Bro . Buchan takes exception . I am satisfied , however , that Freemasonry , " somewhat similar" to tlie first and second degrees , lias been in Scotland for
Multum In Parbo, Or Masonic Notes And Queries.
hundreds of years . I mentioned some time ago that I had not declared the exact dates Of the " present method , " and that after the investigations which I hacl undertaken , I would declare myself open in the columns of THE FREEMASON . CHALMERS I . PATON .
THE 1717 THEORY A MISTAKE . Bro . Buchan has not been in all the lodges in Scotland which have been in existence prioi to 1717 . I repeat that lam a member of one
of them , and their working is different to all lodges that I have visited , and it is only from the main points agreeing that a stranger could get admittance . EDINBURGH .
In the lodge , Masons meet as members of the same family , and representatives for the time being of all the brethren throughout the world ; every prejudice , therefore , on account of religion , country , or private opinion is removed . M .
Mr . Arnold , in his Dutch Dictionary , under the word Freemasonry , says that it is " a Moral Order instituted by virtuous men , with the
praiseworthy design of recalling to our remembrance the most sublime truths , in the midst of the most innocent and social pleasures , founded on liberality , brotherly love , and charity . " M .
AN OLD ACT OF PARLIAMENT . The First Act of Parliament during the reign of Queen Victoria granting privileges to Masonic Lodges ( 32 and 33 Victoria cap . 14 . ) . " Masonic Lodges . —The Board do not propose to treat Masonic emblems as being Armorial
Bearings . " ( Copied from the Act by ) C . I . PATON
" ST . GEORGE AND BRO . C . I . PATON . A brother wishes me to enlighten the English Brotherhood with the history of the Patron Saint of England . All my spare moments are at
present devoted to a new Alasonic work , which the Craft will have in their hands in a few months , after then I shall endeavour to give a short account of St . George . CHALMERS I . PATON .
Bro . Hughan informs us in THE FREEMASON of March 26 th , 1 S 70 , page 151 , that the I . osicrucians have no connection with the Masonic Order , otherwise than by having its members selected from that Fraternity . May I take the
liberty of asking when they first decided to do so ? I ask this because it seems strange to me ( if the 1717 theory be correct ) that they should select their members from a younger Fraternity
by at least 150 years . Itwouldbeinteresting to many of your readers to have' a list ofthe names ofthe " 51 Grand Masters prior to 1717 . " Perhaps " Pythagoras " will supply this want . AV . G . D .
" The Craft throughout the world would have better pleased had Bro . C . I . Paton informed them when and what lodge the late Dr . Chalmers was initialed in . The fact of the
Lodge Journeyman , Xo . 8 , Edinburgh , having p laced his bust in a niche of their lodge is no proof of his being a member of it , or even of his being a brother at all . AV . G . D .
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE . —A meeting of thc Supreme Grand Council , 33 , will be held at No . 33 , Golden-square , on Wednesday , the 13 th May , for thc reception of approved candidates into the K . IT . or 30 th degree . The arrangements for the meeting are confided to 111 . I 5 ro . Captain N . G . Phillips , 33 , Grand Treasurer-General II . E .
AVE have just had the pleasure of inspecting Bro . Gosdcn ' s hostelry , Masons'llall Tavern , Masons ' Avenue , Basinghall-strect , which has been recently renovated and decorated at great cost , and is now replete with every requirement for a large trade .
Thc rooms are well adapted for Masonic meetings , and already we hear several bodies connected with the Craft have resolved to remove to the " Masons ' Hall'' Under Bro . Gosdcn ' s proprietorship they may expect every attention ancl comfort .
Original Correspondence.
Original Correspondence .
—¦»— . The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents . ( To the Editor of Thc Freemason . ) DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —Allow me to thank W . G . Doric for his wellmeant letter . 1 shall
probably have a word or two to say upon the subject when more at leisure . In the meantime , I repudiate the basis upon which Bro . Matier elaborates his principal arguments ; inasmuch as I never stated that Bishop Eusebius commanded the bodyguards of Constantine at the battle of Saxa Rubra .
I confess to having confounded thc Nicomedian with the Cesarean prelate . The account of thc socalled vision is quoted from Eusebius , the ecclesiastical writer , in his " Life of Constantine , " page 24 and following pages ; and certainly he ought to know best . Yours fraternall } ' , R . AVENTAVORTH LITTLE .
GRAND MASTERS OF IRELAND . ( To the Editor of Thc Freemason . ) DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —I enclose you a small contribution for the columns of THE FREEMASON ; it is a list of our " Grand Masters , " more correct and full than has ever as yet been published . It is still , however , far from complete , and its ventilation in your columns may lead to some further light on the subject .
Believe me , yours very fraternally , H . Dublin , 13 th April , 1 S 70 . Roll ofthe Grand Masters of the Freemasons of Ireland , with the dates of their installation . ( Many of these Brethren having been subsequentl y reelected , the date of their first installation only is given . )
1174 . Richard , 2 nd Earl of Pembroke ( Strongbow ) , Lord Justice of Ireland . 1217 . Henry de Laundrcs , Archbishop of Dublin . 1230 . Hugh de Lacy , Earl of Ulster , Constable of Ireland . 1464 . Thomas , Slh Earl of Desmond , Lord Justice of Ireland .
1517 . Gerald , 9 th Earl of Kildare , Lord-Deputy of Ireland . 1726 . Colonel tlie lion . James O'Brien , M . P . 1729 . James , 4 th Baron Kingston , also Grand Master of England . 1730 . Colonel William Maynard . 1732 . Nicholas , 5 th Viscount Nelterville .
1733 . Henry , 4 th Viscount Kingsland . 1736 . Marcus , 1 st Viscount Tyrone . 1738 . William , 3 rd Viscount Mount joy , subsequently ist Earl of Blessington . 1740 . Arthur , 3 rd Viscount Doncraile . 1741 . diaries , 2 nd Baron Tnllamoore . 1743 . Thomas , 2 nd Baron Southwell .
1 744 . John , 3 rd Viscount Allen . 1747 . Sir Marmaduke AA ' yvillc , Oth Baronet . 1 749 . Robert , 1 st Baron Kingsborough . 1753 . Hon . Thomas Southwell . 1757 . Brinslcy , Lord Ncwtownbtitlcr , . subsequently 2 nd Earl of Lanesborough . 175 S . Charles , Cth . Earl ofBioghcda , K . St . P .
1761 . Sir Edward King , Hart ., subsequently 1 st Earl of Kingston , and again Grand Master . 1764 . Thomas , 6 lh Earl of Wcstmeatli , K . St . P . I 75 S . Ford , 5 th Earl of Cavan . 1771 . William , Marquis of Kildare ( first time ) . 1777 . Garrett , ist Earl of Mornington , father of Mr Duke of Wellington .
177 S . William , 2 nd Duke of Leinster , K . St . P . ( second time ) , father ofthe present Grand Master . 1779 . Randal , Cth Earl of Antrim . 17 S 2 . Richard , 2 nd Earl of Mornington , K . G ., K . St . P . subsequently , who . Marquis Wellesley , Lord « Lieutenant of Ireland . 17 S * . Robert , ist Baron Muskerrv .
17-5 . Arthur , Viscount Kilwarlin , subscqrcntly 2 nd Marquis of Downshire . 17 S 7 . Francis , 2 nd Viscount Glerawh ' . 17 S 9 . General Richard , 2 nd Baron Donoughmore . 1 S 13 . Augustus , 3 rd Duke of Leinster , for the last 57 years the most esteemed and illustrious Grand Master .
THE FREEMASON'S LIFE BOAT . ( To the Editor of The Freemason . ) DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —Published matter is public property , subject to general criticism . A severe but truthful and conscientious analysis of any kind of writing cannot fairly be termed "intemperate " or " abusive "—but when a writer
chooses to indulge in . indirect insinuations calculated to cast a doubt on the purity of the motive actuating a body of men banded together for the purpose of effecting a public good , he ought not to complain of being rebuked . I leave it , however , to the judgment of those who thought it worth while
to pay some attention lo tins exceeding useless ancl unprofitable discussion , to decide whether my letters were cither " abusive " or " intemperate . " AA . M . is simply playing with our understanding . Having demanded tlie names and whereabouts of a committee , whose interests he seems to have so
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Multum In Parbo, Or Masonic Notes And Queries.
Multum in Parbo , or Masonic Notes and Queries .
? ENGLISH GILDS . I am obliged , certainly , to Bro . " Lupus " for his kind information , ancl suppose that I must make up my mind to speculate . I trust the book will prove worthy of the price . W . P . B .
A JEWISH LEGEND . I am obliged to Bro . "Stoltz " for his remarks at page 188 , for since he has kindly informed us that this " Jewish Legend " is only an " absurd
fable , " my mind is quite relieved . To merely fancy the effect that would have been produced had this legend really been true , is too terrible so I draw the veil . W . P . B .
SOLOMON AND FREEMASONRY ( page l 8 l ) . May I ask the meaning of the assertion " he ( Solomon ) is certainly the only monotheistic
originator of Masonic ideas in all antiquity ?" To me it appears to be nothing but an American Masonic dream , any way you like to take it . AV . P . B .
CONSTANTINE AND THE LABARUM . At page 189 I find Bro . Doric remarking - . " This standard or ensign called' Labarum , ' i . e . the end of the tail . " Now I want to know the meaning of , and the authority he has for
this definition ? More especially do I ask this on account of having made certain statements at page 18 of THE FREEMASON for July , 1 S 6 9 , which statements I am quite ready to withdraw when satisfied they are wrong . LEO .
A GOOD REGULATION . Any member ofthe degrees of this Rite above the 29 becoming bankrupt or effecting a
composition with his creditors , shall ipso facto cease to be a member of these degrees , and his name shall be struck off the list accordingly . NOTA .
Does the W . M . of a lodge , immediately after installation , thereupon become a Past Master ; or is he nota P . M . until the expiration of his year of office ? G . B . SCHOLES . [ He becomes a P . M . upon the completion of his term of office in the chair . —ED . F . ]
Kindly inform me if R . A . Chapters in England ancl Scotland admit companions exalted under Irish warrants as visitors ? Also , if English Encampments of H . K . T . ' s admit Irish Templars ? The above information will much
oblige AN IRISH R . A . MASON . [ Yes ; both Chapters ancl Encampments admit companions from Ireland if duly qualified . ]
In 1782 there was a Provincial Grand Lodge in Russia , the Provincial Grand Master being " His Excellency John Yelaguine , Senator , Privy Councillor , Member of the Cabinet , & c ,
to Her Imperial Majesty the Empress of Russia , and Knight of the Polish Order of the White Eagle , and of St . Stanislaus . What became of this lodge ? Moscow ,
The Strasburgh Masonic Constitutions of 1459 are given , I am told , in Findel ' s " History of Freemasonry . " Where is this book to be obtained ? QUERIST .
BRO . BUCHAN AND THE I 717 THEORY In Bro . W . P . Buchan ' s letter to you , appearing at page 108 , he admits that ' •there were Operative Freemasons long before A . D . 1717 . " This I have always said , I do not recollect
of having said " present method" being , I think , the only words to which Bro . Buchan takes exception . I am satisfied , however , that Freemasonry , " somewhat similar" to tlie first and second degrees , lias been in Scotland for
Multum In Parbo, Or Masonic Notes And Queries.
hundreds of years . I mentioned some time ago that I had not declared the exact dates Of the " present method , " and that after the investigations which I hacl undertaken , I would declare myself open in the columns of THE FREEMASON . CHALMERS I . PATON .
THE 1717 THEORY A MISTAKE . Bro . Buchan has not been in all the lodges in Scotland which have been in existence prioi to 1717 . I repeat that lam a member of one
of them , and their working is different to all lodges that I have visited , and it is only from the main points agreeing that a stranger could get admittance . EDINBURGH .
In the lodge , Masons meet as members of the same family , and representatives for the time being of all the brethren throughout the world ; every prejudice , therefore , on account of religion , country , or private opinion is removed . M .
Mr . Arnold , in his Dutch Dictionary , under the word Freemasonry , says that it is " a Moral Order instituted by virtuous men , with the
praiseworthy design of recalling to our remembrance the most sublime truths , in the midst of the most innocent and social pleasures , founded on liberality , brotherly love , and charity . " M .
AN OLD ACT OF PARLIAMENT . The First Act of Parliament during the reign of Queen Victoria granting privileges to Masonic Lodges ( 32 and 33 Victoria cap . 14 . ) . " Masonic Lodges . —The Board do not propose to treat Masonic emblems as being Armorial
Bearings . " ( Copied from the Act by ) C . I . PATON
" ST . GEORGE AND BRO . C . I . PATON . A brother wishes me to enlighten the English Brotherhood with the history of the Patron Saint of England . All my spare moments are at
present devoted to a new Alasonic work , which the Craft will have in their hands in a few months , after then I shall endeavour to give a short account of St . George . CHALMERS I . PATON .
Bro . Hughan informs us in THE FREEMASON of March 26 th , 1 S 70 , page 151 , that the I . osicrucians have no connection with the Masonic Order , otherwise than by having its members selected from that Fraternity . May I take the
liberty of asking when they first decided to do so ? I ask this because it seems strange to me ( if the 1717 theory be correct ) that they should select their members from a younger Fraternity
by at least 150 years . Itwouldbeinteresting to many of your readers to have' a list ofthe names ofthe " 51 Grand Masters prior to 1717 . " Perhaps " Pythagoras " will supply this want . AV . G . D .
" The Craft throughout the world would have better pleased had Bro . C . I . Paton informed them when and what lodge the late Dr . Chalmers was initialed in . The fact of the
Lodge Journeyman , Xo . 8 , Edinburgh , having p laced his bust in a niche of their lodge is no proof of his being a member of it , or even of his being a brother at all . AV . G . D .
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE . —A meeting of thc Supreme Grand Council , 33 , will be held at No . 33 , Golden-square , on Wednesday , the 13 th May , for thc reception of approved candidates into the K . IT . or 30 th degree . The arrangements for the meeting are confided to 111 . I 5 ro . Captain N . G . Phillips , 33 , Grand Treasurer-General II . E .
AVE have just had the pleasure of inspecting Bro . Gosdcn ' s hostelry , Masons'llall Tavern , Masons ' Avenue , Basinghall-strect , which has been recently renovated and decorated at great cost , and is now replete with every requirement for a large trade .
Thc rooms are well adapted for Masonic meetings , and already we hear several bodies connected with the Craft have resolved to remove to the " Masons ' Hall'' Under Bro . Gosdcn ' s proprietorship they may expect every attention ancl comfort .
Original Correspondence.
Original Correspondence .
—¦»— . The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents . ( To the Editor of Thc Freemason . ) DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —Allow me to thank W . G . Doric for his wellmeant letter . 1 shall
probably have a word or two to say upon the subject when more at leisure . In the meantime , I repudiate the basis upon which Bro . Matier elaborates his principal arguments ; inasmuch as I never stated that Bishop Eusebius commanded the bodyguards of Constantine at the battle of Saxa Rubra .
I confess to having confounded thc Nicomedian with the Cesarean prelate . The account of thc socalled vision is quoted from Eusebius , the ecclesiastical writer , in his " Life of Constantine , " page 24 and following pages ; and certainly he ought to know best . Yours fraternall } ' , R . AVENTAVORTH LITTLE .
GRAND MASTERS OF IRELAND . ( To the Editor of Thc Freemason . ) DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —I enclose you a small contribution for the columns of THE FREEMASON ; it is a list of our " Grand Masters , " more correct and full than has ever as yet been published . It is still , however , far from complete , and its ventilation in your columns may lead to some further light on the subject .
Believe me , yours very fraternally , H . Dublin , 13 th April , 1 S 70 . Roll ofthe Grand Masters of the Freemasons of Ireland , with the dates of their installation . ( Many of these Brethren having been subsequentl y reelected , the date of their first installation only is given . )
1174 . Richard , 2 nd Earl of Pembroke ( Strongbow ) , Lord Justice of Ireland . 1217 . Henry de Laundrcs , Archbishop of Dublin . 1230 . Hugh de Lacy , Earl of Ulster , Constable of Ireland . 1464 . Thomas , Slh Earl of Desmond , Lord Justice of Ireland .
1517 . Gerald , 9 th Earl of Kildare , Lord-Deputy of Ireland . 1726 . Colonel tlie lion . James O'Brien , M . P . 1729 . James , 4 th Baron Kingston , also Grand Master of England . 1730 . Colonel William Maynard . 1732 . Nicholas , 5 th Viscount Nelterville .
1733 . Henry , 4 th Viscount Kingsland . 1736 . Marcus , 1 st Viscount Tyrone . 1738 . William , 3 rd Viscount Mount joy , subsequently ist Earl of Blessington . 1740 . Arthur , 3 rd Viscount Doncraile . 1741 . diaries , 2 nd Baron Tnllamoore . 1743 . Thomas , 2 nd Baron Southwell .
1 744 . John , 3 rd Viscount Allen . 1747 . Sir Marmaduke AA ' yvillc , Oth Baronet . 1 749 . Robert , 1 st Baron Kingsborough . 1753 . Hon . Thomas Southwell . 1757 . Brinslcy , Lord Ncwtownbtitlcr , . subsequently 2 nd Earl of Lanesborough . 175 S . Charles , Cth . Earl ofBioghcda , K . St . P .
1761 . Sir Edward King , Hart ., subsequently 1 st Earl of Kingston , and again Grand Master . 1764 . Thomas , 6 lh Earl of Wcstmeatli , K . St . P . I 75 S . Ford , 5 th Earl of Cavan . 1771 . William , Marquis of Kildare ( first time ) . 1777 . Garrett , ist Earl of Mornington , father of Mr Duke of Wellington .
177 S . William , 2 nd Duke of Leinster , K . St . P . ( second time ) , father ofthe present Grand Master . 1779 . Randal , Cth Earl of Antrim . 17 S 2 . Richard , 2 nd Earl of Mornington , K . G ., K . St . P . subsequently , who . Marquis Wellesley , Lord « Lieutenant of Ireland . 17 S * . Robert , ist Baron Muskerrv .
17-5 . Arthur , Viscount Kilwarlin , subscqrcntly 2 nd Marquis of Downshire . 17 S 7 . Francis , 2 nd Viscount Glerawh ' . 17 S 9 . General Richard , 2 nd Baron Donoughmore . 1 S 13 . Augustus , 3 rd Duke of Leinster , for the last 57 years the most esteemed and illustrious Grand Master .
THE FREEMASON'S LIFE BOAT . ( To the Editor of The Freemason . ) DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —Published matter is public property , subject to general criticism . A severe but truthful and conscientious analysis of any kind of writing cannot fairly be termed "intemperate " or " abusive "—but when a writer
chooses to indulge in . indirect insinuations calculated to cast a doubt on the purity of the motive actuating a body of men banded together for the purpose of effecting a public good , he ought not to complain of being rebuked . I leave it , however , to the judgment of those who thought it worth while
to pay some attention lo tins exceeding useless ancl unprofitable discussion , to decide whether my letters were cither " abusive " or " intemperate . " AA . M . is simply playing with our understanding . Having demanded tlie names and whereabouts of a committee , whose interests he seems to have so