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Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed ly Correspondents , THE CHIVALROUS DEGREES .

TO THE EDITOK OF THE FUEEHASONS' MAGAZINE AND HASONIC MIBEOB . Dear Sir and Brother , —I have been met with a very silly objection , that the Masonic Order of Knighthood given by myself and others will not be recognised by the heads of any constituted jurisdiction , nor their decorations be allowed to be used in the lodges . This is a very sillobjection indeedand

y , only brought forward to hinder the great progress of chivalrous Masonry , and to draw away the attention of the public from this great branch of the mysterious science . Imprimis , a Knight of any of their degrees can wear them in the chapter where he was made . Secundo , he can wear them in his own house as often

as he likes . The apron of my original Masonic Order of the Garter is so gorgeous , and contains the emblems of so many Orders of Knighthood that it is superior to the Odd Fellows' apron . It is particularly available for Masonic balls . Thank the stars , we cannot be kept out from them , the women do not

know the difference , and will much more admire what is intellectual than some white or blue apron . It is grander , too , to wear a star than some mechanical emblem dangling from a common collar . The Sir Knight who wears the decorations of chivalrous Knighthood is sure of the notice of his common brethren , if not of their envy . Tours fraternally , W . HARRIS .

A LOST PROVINCE . 10 THE EDITOE OE THE FKEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIEBOE . Dear Sir and Brother , — -You correspondent , " Inquirer , " asks " what has become of the ancient province of Rutlandshire ? " I cannot find that any such province ever existedandstill morethat tlie

, , , county ever possessed a Masonic lodge . I trust , however , that this state of things will not prevail much longer . Several highly respectable inhabitants of the county have recently been initiated in the Rutland Lodge ( No . 1 , 130 ) , Melton Mowbray , with the intentionas I have been informedof ere long

, , petitioning for a warrant for a new lodge to be established at Oakham ; and for tho county to bo annexed for Masonic purposes , as it already is in some other respects , to the province of Leicester shire . Tours fraternally , A LEICESTERSHIRE P . M .

[ Our correspondent should refer to tho old calendars and reports of Grand Lodge . —En . F . M . ] AUTHORITY . TO THE EDITOE OF THE FEEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIO MIEEOE .

Dear Sir and Brother , —Authority ! what is authority , and what are its bounds , and who will hold Squire Jones ? Bro . Manningham ' s letter , which comes most suspiciously , may for aught we know be genuine , but for aught we know , may not . The test of the genuineness is settled by authority . A "Masonic Student" pins his faith on the German

Correspondence.

Masonic publisher , Bro . Findel , and . so does Bro . Hughan . It has not occurred to Bro . Hughan , that even if Bro . Findel is an authority on German MSS ., and of that there is no evidence , any more than there is that . he has seen tho Netherlands MSS ., Bro . Hughan himself is a far better authority on an English M . S . —its writingits spellingand its style .

, , Authority to be operative must be exercised within its own proper bounds , and as yet we have got no authority , for no competent authority has seen the MSS . I should rely more on Bro . Hughan at first hand , than at third hand . We do not want learned Masons , but men learned as experts in MSS .

Tours fraternally , ANOTHER . STUDENT . OATHS OF CHIVALRT . TO THF EDITOE OF THE FEEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIE-tOE . Dear Sir and Brother—As Bro . W . Harris is

, putting himself forward as a great reformer of those Knightly degrees , which , as H . H . says , are only Masonic , because Masons belong to them , he may be able to give me satisfaction on one point , the settlement of which may lead to my joining his , or some of the more , aristocratic Orders , which , like H . H , as to

yet I have refrained from doing . I have reason believe that a friend of mine who has some twenty of of these stars and degrees , must have taken some twenty or more oaths , which are scarcely so harmless as Knightly vows . taken on the Swan or the Peacock . If this be sothe sooner it is clone away with in these

, modern inventions and innovations the better . The practise of needless swearing is offensive to the spirit of the age , and has been greatly reduced by the legislature . I trust this may obtain something more than a from Bro . Harris or his fellow labourerand

response , that is au assurance that their amusements will be made more harmless . Yours fraternally , CANDIDATE .

WORKING OF LODGES . TO THE F . DITOli 01 ' THE FUKF . r . LUiOXS' MAG Ay ..: N't . AND MASONIC ? . ii : t . P . O _ l . Dear Sir and Brother , —I cannot allow tho letter of a " P . M . and P . Z . " of Staffordshire , in your last number , to pass without a word of reply . 1 am in the habit of visiting lod in different parts of the

ges kingdom , and though I see somo worked well I am compelled to say tho majority are not equal _ to Staffordshire , in either correctness of work or strictness-of discipline . It is true we aro without a P . G . M ., and I would , ladlsea the offles even half as well filled as has

gy been for some timo tho oSSco of D . P . G . M . by a worthy brother , whom a more lor . riied and hard working Freemason is rarely to bs met with . Yours fraternally , A P . M . AND P . P . G . Ori'ICER OF STAEEORDSIIIEE .

THE MASONIC CHARITIES . TO THE EDITOE OF THE FBEEMASONS ^ MAGAZI-. " - ! AND MASONIC MIP . KOE , Dear Sir and Brother , —Every post now brings me a solicitation for votes . Permit me to suggest to the relatives and friends of candidates , that if they will

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THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 1
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MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 7
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MASONIC MEMS. Article 10
GRAND LODGE. Article 10
PROVINCIAL. Article 14
INDIA. Article 15
SCOTLAND. Article 16
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 18
Obituary. Article 18
THE LATE BRO. THOMAS POWRIE. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGE MEETINGS, ETC., FOR THE WEEK ENDING SEPTEMBER 12th, 1868. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed ly Correspondents , THE CHIVALROUS DEGREES .

TO THE EDITOK OF THE FUEEHASONS' MAGAZINE AND HASONIC MIBEOB . Dear Sir and Brother , —I have been met with a very silly objection , that the Masonic Order of Knighthood given by myself and others will not be recognised by the heads of any constituted jurisdiction , nor their decorations be allowed to be used in the lodges . This is a very sillobjection indeedand

y , only brought forward to hinder the great progress of chivalrous Masonry , and to draw away the attention of the public from this great branch of the mysterious science . Imprimis , a Knight of any of their degrees can wear them in the chapter where he was made . Secundo , he can wear them in his own house as often

as he likes . The apron of my original Masonic Order of the Garter is so gorgeous , and contains the emblems of so many Orders of Knighthood that it is superior to the Odd Fellows' apron . It is particularly available for Masonic balls . Thank the stars , we cannot be kept out from them , the women do not

know the difference , and will much more admire what is intellectual than some white or blue apron . It is grander , too , to wear a star than some mechanical emblem dangling from a common collar . The Sir Knight who wears the decorations of chivalrous Knighthood is sure of the notice of his common brethren , if not of their envy . Tours fraternally , W . HARRIS .

A LOST PROVINCE . 10 THE EDITOE OE THE FKEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIEBOE . Dear Sir and Brother , — -You correspondent , " Inquirer , " asks " what has become of the ancient province of Rutlandshire ? " I cannot find that any such province ever existedandstill morethat tlie

, , , county ever possessed a Masonic lodge . I trust , however , that this state of things will not prevail much longer . Several highly respectable inhabitants of the county have recently been initiated in the Rutland Lodge ( No . 1 , 130 ) , Melton Mowbray , with the intentionas I have been informedof ere long

, , petitioning for a warrant for a new lodge to be established at Oakham ; and for tho county to bo annexed for Masonic purposes , as it already is in some other respects , to the province of Leicester shire . Tours fraternally , A LEICESTERSHIRE P . M .

[ Our correspondent should refer to tho old calendars and reports of Grand Lodge . —En . F . M . ] AUTHORITY . TO THE EDITOE OF THE FEEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIO MIEEOE .

Dear Sir and Brother , —Authority ! what is authority , and what are its bounds , and who will hold Squire Jones ? Bro . Manningham ' s letter , which comes most suspiciously , may for aught we know be genuine , but for aught we know , may not . The test of the genuineness is settled by authority . A "Masonic Student" pins his faith on the German

Correspondence.

Masonic publisher , Bro . Findel , and . so does Bro . Hughan . It has not occurred to Bro . Hughan , that even if Bro . Findel is an authority on German MSS ., and of that there is no evidence , any more than there is that . he has seen tho Netherlands MSS ., Bro . Hughan himself is a far better authority on an English M . S . —its writingits spellingand its style .

, , Authority to be operative must be exercised within its own proper bounds , and as yet we have got no authority , for no competent authority has seen the MSS . I should rely more on Bro . Hughan at first hand , than at third hand . We do not want learned Masons , but men learned as experts in MSS .

Tours fraternally , ANOTHER . STUDENT . OATHS OF CHIVALRT . TO THF EDITOE OF THE FEEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIE-tOE . Dear Sir and Brother—As Bro . W . Harris is

, putting himself forward as a great reformer of those Knightly degrees , which , as H . H . says , are only Masonic , because Masons belong to them , he may be able to give me satisfaction on one point , the settlement of which may lead to my joining his , or some of the more , aristocratic Orders , which , like H . H , as to

yet I have refrained from doing . I have reason believe that a friend of mine who has some twenty of of these stars and degrees , must have taken some twenty or more oaths , which are scarcely so harmless as Knightly vows . taken on the Swan or the Peacock . If this be sothe sooner it is clone away with in these

, modern inventions and innovations the better . The practise of needless swearing is offensive to the spirit of the age , and has been greatly reduced by the legislature . I trust this may obtain something more than a from Bro . Harris or his fellow labourerand

response , that is au assurance that their amusements will be made more harmless . Yours fraternally , CANDIDATE .

WORKING OF LODGES . TO THE F . DITOli 01 ' THE FUKF . r . LUiOXS' MAG Ay ..: N't . AND MASONIC ? . ii : t . P . O _ l . Dear Sir and Brother , —I cannot allow tho letter of a " P . M . and P . Z . " of Staffordshire , in your last number , to pass without a word of reply . 1 am in the habit of visiting lod in different parts of the

ges kingdom , and though I see somo worked well I am compelled to say tho majority are not equal _ to Staffordshire , in either correctness of work or strictness-of discipline . It is true we aro without a P . G . M ., and I would , ladlsea the offles even half as well filled as has

gy been for some timo tho oSSco of D . P . G . M . by a worthy brother , whom a more lor . riied and hard working Freemason is rarely to bs met with . Yours fraternally , A P . M . AND P . P . G . Ori'ICER OF STAEEORDSIIIEE .

THE MASONIC CHARITIES . TO THE EDITOE OF THE FBEEMASONS ^ MAGAZI-. " - ! AND MASONIC MIP . KOE , Dear Sir and Brother , —Every post now brings me a solicitation for votes . Permit me to suggest to the relatives and friends of candidates , that if they will

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