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Chips Of Foreign Ashlar.

Accepting then the " gridiron " as representing the initiation of candidates for Freemasonry , we propose to refer to the impressions made in our mind by the ceremonies as conducted in France . We have seen initiations in lodges of the Grand

Orient as well as in those of the Sii / preme Oonseil Ancien et Accepte , and as the old woman said they " are much of a muchness . " In February 1869 we saAV a profane admitted to the light in the Lodge Renaissance of Paris . As a preliminary the individual in question was conducted to the " chamber of reflection " where he

was required to " make his will and ansAver certain interrogatories on paper , the replies to which were afterwards read to the lodge . He was then brought in and placed on a stool in front of the Venerable , and for nearly half an hour had to

undergo a running fire of cross-questioning from the Orateur and others , on sundry points of theology , politics and morals . Many of the questions were calculated to excite the risible faculties of an Englishman , aud we confess to having given way

to a smile now and then , though the freres generally maintained the utmost gravity of demeanour . Having successfully " passed his examination , " ononsieur was rnit through a variety of performances of which it would not do to say more than they

are unknown in English Masonry , and in our opinion would be " more honoured in the breach than iu the observance . " Finally he was sworn on a sword which Bro . Beaumont explained to us to

be the symbol of strength to maintain the right , Imn : ; -i : ' a : ely after the admission of the candidate , tie Oritur delivered an original and extempore £ / H :-v :-: s -vr . the principles of the Order , which struck us a" : i , wonderful improvement on the

parrot-like r- ^ r . Vi-. ioria which are called " charges " in English yvi gos . We clo not say one word against said " charges" they are most excellent in themselves , but the plan of original addresses prepared to meet the circumstances of the case ,

appears to us to be more interesting as well as calculated to exercise the higher intellectual faculties to a greater extent than can possibly be achieved by mere feats of memory . Let our French brethren learn of us how to conduct

initiations Avith solemnity and power , and on the other hand let English brethren not be too proud to copy French superiority wherever it is made manifest . As soon as the initiation was concluded "Bro . Massol , the Venerable , called the brethren to order

and the lodge assumed the aspect of a parliamentary assembly . Matters of interest to the lodge were then discussed with the greatest eloquence and animation , and with all the formalities of a legislative body . Bro . Massol seemed to be in

himself a speaker of the House of Commons minus the happiness of state . As one orator sat down , the Venerable called on the next who had caught his eye with the words " Parole au frere . " After hearing a few speeches we left , feeling that in some respects it is true that " they manage these things better in France . "

Shortly afterwards we were present at a seance of the Lodge L'Ollivier at Havre . There is a very fine Masonic Temple at Havre , and it is used by the lodp-es of both the Grand Orient and the Supreme Oonseil . This union of the two bodies

under one roof , is we trust a fore-shadowing ofthe still more complete union when the flag of the Grand Orient shall wave over all the Masons of France . On this evening two profanes were initiated at

one time , and except that the ceremonies were even more extraordinary , and we are bound to say ludicrous , they were very similar to those Ave saw in Paris . For the information of those whom it may concern , Ave may state that the " voyage " in

search of Avhat Bro . Melville calls "Masonic Celestial Mysteries" is in France through " much tribulation , " and we can only repeat with a frere Avho sat next us in the Lodge L'Ollivie ?; with reference to French candidates—Les Pauvres

Diables . Punch ' s advice to persons about to marry—dont—would be pretty much our own to any dear friend Avho wished to unloose "the mystic tie " under such circumstances . We betray no confidence Avhen we state that we have been

assured by Bro . Beaumont and other eminent French brethren , that they would like to abolish certain un-musical and rather hideous accompaniments to the giving of the first degree in French lodges .

A curious custom prevails in the Lodge L'OUiviev of paying wages to the brethren . Thus each brother is entitled to receive a medal for every lodge meeting he attends , and at the end of the year his subscription to the lodge is charged one

franc less for every medal he produces . In this way those Avho work the hardest , pay the least—by no means a bad idea . We received one of these medals which our esteemed Bro . Francis L . Law of Edinburgh afterwards made up into a really

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Untitled Article 1
FREEMASONS' HALL. Article 1
CHIPS OF FOREIGN ASHLAR. Article 1
ON TREE AND SERPENT WORSHIP, AS EXEMPLIFIED BY SOME RECENTLY DISCOVERED INDIAN MONUMENTS. Article 3
OPINION OF FREEMASONRY EXPRESSED BY THE EARL OF DERBY. Article 6
THE PALESTINE EXPLORATION FUND. Article 7
ANCIENT LODGES. Article 8
MASONIC NOTES AND QJJERIES. Article 9
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 12
BRO. MELVILLE'S DISCOVERIES. Article 12
THE EARLS WOOD IDIOT ASYLUM. Article 13
GRAND LODGE CALENDAR. Article 13
A COMPARISON. Article 13
REDUCTION IN PRICE OF THE "MAGAZINE." Article 15
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR BOYS. Article 15
METROPOLITAN. Article 16
PROVINCIAL. Article 16
IRELAND. Article 17
ROYAL ARCH. Article 18
Obituary. Article 18
Poetry. Article 19
THE "MORNING ADVERTISER" AND FREEMASONRY. Article 19
LIST OF LODGE, &c., MEETINGS FOR WEEK ENDING 17TH JULY, 1869. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Chips Of Foreign Ashlar.

Accepting then the " gridiron " as representing the initiation of candidates for Freemasonry , we propose to refer to the impressions made in our mind by the ceremonies as conducted in France . We have seen initiations in lodges of the Grand

Orient as well as in those of the Sii / preme Oonseil Ancien et Accepte , and as the old woman said they " are much of a muchness . " In February 1869 we saAV a profane admitted to the light in the Lodge Renaissance of Paris . As a preliminary the individual in question was conducted to the " chamber of reflection " where he

was required to " make his will and ansAver certain interrogatories on paper , the replies to which were afterwards read to the lodge . He was then brought in and placed on a stool in front of the Venerable , and for nearly half an hour had to

undergo a running fire of cross-questioning from the Orateur and others , on sundry points of theology , politics and morals . Many of the questions were calculated to excite the risible faculties of an Englishman , aud we confess to having given way

to a smile now and then , though the freres generally maintained the utmost gravity of demeanour . Having successfully " passed his examination , " ononsieur was rnit through a variety of performances of which it would not do to say more than they

are unknown in English Masonry , and in our opinion would be " more honoured in the breach than iu the observance . " Finally he was sworn on a sword which Bro . Beaumont explained to us to

be the symbol of strength to maintain the right , Imn : ; -i : ' a : ely after the admission of the candidate , tie Oritur delivered an original and extempore £ / H :-v :-: s -vr . the principles of the Order , which struck us a" : i , wonderful improvement on the

parrot-like r- ^ r . Vi-. ioria which are called " charges " in English yvi gos . We clo not say one word against said " charges" they are most excellent in themselves , but the plan of original addresses prepared to meet the circumstances of the case ,

appears to us to be more interesting as well as calculated to exercise the higher intellectual faculties to a greater extent than can possibly be achieved by mere feats of memory . Let our French brethren learn of us how to conduct

initiations Avith solemnity and power , and on the other hand let English brethren not be too proud to copy French superiority wherever it is made manifest . As soon as the initiation was concluded "Bro . Massol , the Venerable , called the brethren to order

and the lodge assumed the aspect of a parliamentary assembly . Matters of interest to the lodge were then discussed with the greatest eloquence and animation , and with all the formalities of a legislative body . Bro . Massol seemed to be in

himself a speaker of the House of Commons minus the happiness of state . As one orator sat down , the Venerable called on the next who had caught his eye with the words " Parole au frere . " After hearing a few speeches we left , feeling that in some respects it is true that " they manage these things better in France . "

Shortly afterwards we were present at a seance of the Lodge L'Ollivier at Havre . There is a very fine Masonic Temple at Havre , and it is used by the lodp-es of both the Grand Orient and the Supreme Oonseil . This union of the two bodies

under one roof , is we trust a fore-shadowing ofthe still more complete union when the flag of the Grand Orient shall wave over all the Masons of France . On this evening two profanes were initiated at

one time , and except that the ceremonies were even more extraordinary , and we are bound to say ludicrous , they were very similar to those Ave saw in Paris . For the information of those whom it may concern , Ave may state that the " voyage " in

search of Avhat Bro . Melville calls "Masonic Celestial Mysteries" is in France through " much tribulation , " and we can only repeat with a frere Avho sat next us in the Lodge L'Ollivie ?; with reference to French candidates—Les Pauvres

Diables . Punch ' s advice to persons about to marry—dont—would be pretty much our own to any dear friend Avho wished to unloose "the mystic tie " under such circumstances . We betray no confidence Avhen we state that we have been

assured by Bro . Beaumont and other eminent French brethren , that they would like to abolish certain un-musical and rather hideous accompaniments to the giving of the first degree in French lodges .

A curious custom prevails in the Lodge L'OUiviev of paying wages to the brethren . Thus each brother is entitled to receive a medal for every lodge meeting he attends , and at the end of the year his subscription to the lodge is charged one

franc less for every medal he produces . In this way those Avho work the hardest , pay the least—by no means a bad idea . We received one of these medals which our esteemed Bro . Francis L . Law of Edinburgh afterwards made up into a really

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