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Masonic Notes And Queries.

FEEBES ET COHPA & M'OSrS . Please give me the French words of the Masonic song , "Freres et Compagnons . "—0 . —[ In Instructions pour les Trois Premiers Grades they are printed thus : — Freres et compagnons

Dc la maconnerie , Sans chagrin jouissons Des plaish-s de la vie . Munis d'un rouge bord , Que par trois fois le signal de nos vcrres , Soit une preuvc que , d'accord , JSTOUS buvons u nos freres . . Toignons-nous main en main ,

Tenons-nous ferine ensemble ; Rendons grace an destin Du neond qui nous rassemble . Kt sovons assure ,

Qw'il nc EC Vioifc , xur \ es deux liemispteres , Point do plus illustre sante , Que celle de nos freres . ] TIIS TARGUM . What are the allusions to Masonry in the Targum ? I see you have quoted tlie Talmud , lately , in English ;

now tell us about the Targum . —Siny . —[ Unreasonable man ! know that wo do not keep a Hebraist ready cut and dried to answer such large questions as yours . It is evident you know where to look for the allusions yourself , and therefore , as they are so numerous , wo must decline to work through an English translation of Rabbi Ben Ezra on a wild goose chase . ]

MAS ONIC WATEK-MAEK . I have a large blank leaf of paper , very old and very brown , aud the water-mark is a square and compasses , surrounded by seven five-pointed stars . Who was the maker ?—W .

LA . T 0 MIA . Is the German Masonic Quarterly called Latomia still in existence , and can it be procured here ?—A . Q .. —[ Apply to Bro . 11 . Spencer . If it is in existence he will obtain it for you . ]

SECEET MOXTTOE . Is there such a degree as tho Secret Monitor ? If so I presume it must allude to the inward working of a brother ' s conscience?—W . —[ There is . It is an American manufacture . It is not a matter of conscience at all , but ono of pelf . It is a trading degree ,

in which hints are given to deal , or not to deal , with a tradesman . The worship of the almighty dollar is the sole aim and end of it . ]

" EREEMASO > "RY TRIED AND EOUND WANTING . " I have three leaves headed " Freemasonry Tried and Found Wanting ; " they are numbered 4 , 5 , ancl 6 . What book , or pamphlet , do they belong to ?—QUERIST .

THE MARQUIS OE CAEENABTON . There was a Grand Master the Marquis of Caernarvon ; is lie the ancestor of the present Earl of Carnarvon , a member of the Craft?—S . G . —[ No . The former was a Bridges , the latter is a Herbert . ]

THE THIRTIETH DEGEEE . Was the thirtieth degree ever conferred under the Grand Lodge of England ?—30 ° . —[ Yes ; and the Grand Lodge gave a certificate that it did so . ]

A BROOM AS A SYMBOL . In a Masonic engraving penes me there is a broom —I think it is a birch-broom—included among a lot of Masonic tools and symbols . What does a broom signify?—P . M . J . AND B . I met with a book called " J . and B . " the other

day . When did it first appear?—B . J . —[ About 1740 . There have been some twenty-five or thirty reprints of it . ]

THE KNIGHTS OE ST . JOHN OE JERUSALEM . The Morning Post ofthe 29 th ult . contains the following : — - "Yesterday Cardinal Wiseman officiated at a solemn mass of requiem , celebrated by the Knights and members of the S . militaz-y order of St . John of Jerusalemin their new church in Great

Ormoncl-, street , for the repose of the soul of the late venerable Bailli Count Collercdo , Lieutenant of the Grand Master of the Order . The members of this Order were known as the Brother Hospitallers , also as the Knights of St . John of Jerusalem , the Knights of Rhodesancllastlyas the Knights of Malta . The

, , , Order was established iu Jerusalem after the taking of that city by the Crusaders in 1099 , by Gerard Tour . His intention was to provide hospitality for p ilgrims , and attendants , while sick , to cure their maladies . Under Raymond Dupuy , in 1121 , the knights defended themselves by force of arms against

the infidels , and thus became at once a religious and military body . When Saladin took Jerusalem in 11 SS , they retired first to Acre , and afterwards to Rhodes in 1310 . Driven from this island after a long siege and memorable defence , they established themselves in 1530 iu the island of Malta , which

Charles V . had ceded to them . The music yesterday was that of Mozart ' s 'Requiem , ' with full orchestral accompaniments , and it was most solemnly rendered . Tho church was crowded with well-dressed people in every variety of colour , mourning habiliments being strictly prohibited by the Order . " Where do these knights hold their meetings , and IIOAV are they received into the Order ?—R . R .

VOLTAIEE . Wanted , the particulars of the Masonic career of Voltaire , the well-known French p hilosopher . —SPES . TASSO ' S " JERUSALEM DELIVERED . " Is Tasso ' s "Jerusalem Delivered" amongst the works which have a Masonic interpretation?—C . A . —[ It is . —

" Cull ive Love ' s rose , and let us love while ive , Still loving , meet with fond return of love . " Read tlie whole of cantos 9 to 16 , inclusive , and then you will say , at once , it bears two meanings , one esoteric , one exoteric . ] SECRET CXPHEE .

In turning over the Masonic curiosities of a friend I found the following - . — "F . zmc nsgdqr kids hm Bkdqjdovdkk zmc , zr qdoqclrmszsbudr ne sgd Xnqj Lzrnmr , fhud rdudqzk cdfqddr mn knmfdq vnqjdc tmedq sgd fqzmc kncfil . " Does it mean anything or nothing?— . . * . v .. —[ It is one of the most simple of cyphers , formed by making the last letter of the alphabet , z , stand for a , and then

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Masonic Notes And Queries.

FEEBES ET COHPA & M'OSrS . Please give me the French words of the Masonic song , "Freres et Compagnons . "—0 . —[ In Instructions pour les Trois Premiers Grades they are printed thus : — Freres et compagnons

Dc la maconnerie , Sans chagrin jouissons Des plaish-s de la vie . Munis d'un rouge bord , Que par trois fois le signal de nos vcrres , Soit une preuvc que , d'accord , JSTOUS buvons u nos freres . . Toignons-nous main en main ,

Tenons-nous ferine ensemble ; Rendons grace an destin Du neond qui nous rassemble . Kt sovons assure ,

Qw'il nc EC Vioifc , xur \ es deux liemispteres , Point do plus illustre sante , Que celle de nos freres . ] TIIS TARGUM . What are the allusions to Masonry in the Targum ? I see you have quoted tlie Talmud , lately , in English ;

now tell us about the Targum . —Siny . —[ Unreasonable man ! know that wo do not keep a Hebraist ready cut and dried to answer such large questions as yours . It is evident you know where to look for the allusions yourself , and therefore , as they are so numerous , wo must decline to work through an English translation of Rabbi Ben Ezra on a wild goose chase . ]

MAS ONIC WATEK-MAEK . I have a large blank leaf of paper , very old and very brown , aud the water-mark is a square and compasses , surrounded by seven five-pointed stars . Who was the maker ?—W .

LA . T 0 MIA . Is the German Masonic Quarterly called Latomia still in existence , and can it be procured here ?—A . Q .. —[ Apply to Bro . 11 . Spencer . If it is in existence he will obtain it for you . ]

SECEET MOXTTOE . Is there such a degree as tho Secret Monitor ? If so I presume it must allude to the inward working of a brother ' s conscience?—W . —[ There is . It is an American manufacture . It is not a matter of conscience at all , but ono of pelf . It is a trading degree ,

in which hints are given to deal , or not to deal , with a tradesman . The worship of the almighty dollar is the sole aim and end of it . ]

" EREEMASO > "RY TRIED AND EOUND WANTING . " I have three leaves headed " Freemasonry Tried and Found Wanting ; " they are numbered 4 , 5 , ancl 6 . What book , or pamphlet , do they belong to ?—QUERIST .

THE MARQUIS OE CAEENABTON . There was a Grand Master the Marquis of Caernarvon ; is lie the ancestor of the present Earl of Carnarvon , a member of the Craft?—S . G . —[ No . The former was a Bridges , the latter is a Herbert . ]

THE THIRTIETH DEGEEE . Was the thirtieth degree ever conferred under the Grand Lodge of England ?—30 ° . —[ Yes ; and the Grand Lodge gave a certificate that it did so . ]

A BROOM AS A SYMBOL . In a Masonic engraving penes me there is a broom —I think it is a birch-broom—included among a lot of Masonic tools and symbols . What does a broom signify?—P . M . J . AND B . I met with a book called " J . and B . " the other

day . When did it first appear?—B . J . —[ About 1740 . There have been some twenty-five or thirty reprints of it . ]

THE KNIGHTS OE ST . JOHN OE JERUSALEM . The Morning Post ofthe 29 th ult . contains the following : — - "Yesterday Cardinal Wiseman officiated at a solemn mass of requiem , celebrated by the Knights and members of the S . militaz-y order of St . John of Jerusalemin their new church in Great

Ormoncl-, street , for the repose of the soul of the late venerable Bailli Count Collercdo , Lieutenant of the Grand Master of the Order . The members of this Order were known as the Brother Hospitallers , also as the Knights of St . John of Jerusalem , the Knights of Rhodesancllastlyas the Knights of Malta . The

, , , Order was established iu Jerusalem after the taking of that city by the Crusaders in 1099 , by Gerard Tour . His intention was to provide hospitality for p ilgrims , and attendants , while sick , to cure their maladies . Under Raymond Dupuy , in 1121 , the knights defended themselves by force of arms against

the infidels , and thus became at once a religious and military body . When Saladin took Jerusalem in 11 SS , they retired first to Acre , and afterwards to Rhodes in 1310 . Driven from this island after a long siege and memorable defence , they established themselves in 1530 iu the island of Malta , which

Charles V . had ceded to them . The music yesterday was that of Mozart ' s 'Requiem , ' with full orchestral accompaniments , and it was most solemnly rendered . Tho church was crowded with well-dressed people in every variety of colour , mourning habiliments being strictly prohibited by the Order . " Where do these knights hold their meetings , and IIOAV are they received into the Order ?—R . R .

VOLTAIEE . Wanted , the particulars of the Masonic career of Voltaire , the well-known French p hilosopher . —SPES . TASSO ' S " JERUSALEM DELIVERED . " Is Tasso ' s "Jerusalem Delivered" amongst the works which have a Masonic interpretation?—C . A . —[ It is . —

" Cull ive Love ' s rose , and let us love while ive , Still loving , meet with fond return of love . " Read tlie whole of cantos 9 to 16 , inclusive , and then you will say , at once , it bears two meanings , one esoteric , one exoteric . ] SECRET CXPHEE .

In turning over the Masonic curiosities of a friend I found the following - . — "F . zmc nsgdqr kids hm Bkdqjdovdkk zmc , zr qdoqclrmszsbudr ne sgd Xnqj Lzrnmr , fhud rdudqzk cdfqddr mn knmfdq vnqjdc tmedq sgd fqzmc kncfil . " Does it mean anything or nothing?— . . * . v .. —[ It is one of the most simple of cyphers , formed by making the last letter of the alphabet , z , stand for a , and then

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