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The Grand Lodge Property.

THE GRAND LODGE PROPERTY .

LONDON , SATURDAY , AUGUST 20 , 1861 .

We had lioped that at least for some months we should be excused from writing on this subject , but we have received a letter from Bro . Havers which cannot be altogether passed without notice . Our respected brother confirms Avhat we stated

from the first , that under no circumstances can the Freemasons ' ' Hall and buildings proper be leased to any parties , either" in an individual or corporate capacity ; but that the Tavern is to be a thoroughly distinct establishment , over which the Graft will have no further control than that of lessees . Bro .

Havers g ives a distinct approval of the new company , Avhich we doubt not will have its wei ght with the Craft , whilst we cannot otherwise than approve the decision which the committee has come to of abstaining from becoming shareholders ; for had

they done so . , it must have created some dissatisfaction with , regard to any arrangement entered into with the Tavern Company . We understand that , up to the present moment , of the 6 , 500 shares to be subscribed for , applications

have been received for upwards of 4 , 000 , and that without any regard to the directors or their friends , whose applications are yet to come in , and which , if only equal to one-half of what is promised , will more than cover the whole amount .

We subjoin Bro . Havers letter : TO TUB EDITOR OP THE FBEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AUD MASONIC HIUKOJl . DEAII SIR AND BROTHER , —So many inquiries Lave been made of me , both verbally and otherwise , on the subject of the Now Buildings , and of the proposed Company , that I think it better to ask your permission to lto them generall .

repy y I . The new "Freemasons' Hall" and the Tavern , which will adjoin it , will be separate and distinct . The former will contain the present great hall , boardrooms , lodge-rooms , offices for the Grand Secretary and his clerks , offices for the Charities , Grand Masters' and Grand Officers' rooms , library , coffee-room , waitingrooms , Grand Tyler ' s apartments , & c . This part of the

building will possess a handsome facade of Portland stone , and will be devoted solely and exclusively to the use of the fraternity . The Tavern will contain all the recommendations necessary for carrying on a first-class business , including ( besides dining-rooms of ordinary dimensions ) a new great halllarger and more commodious than the present

, one , and two subsidiary dining-rooms of large dimensions , with suitable approaches and ante-rooms , & c ; the ( s uite of apartments which can be thrown open will , I believe , be unequalled in any similar establishment in London . II . The contemplated lease to the company refers to the Tavern only .

III . Neither I , nor any member of the committee , as far as I know , I believe , have , or propose to have , any share or interest in the new company , and for the sole but sufficient reason that , as representing the interests

The Grand Lodge Property.

of Grand Lodge , we could not be in the position of being both buyers aud sellers . IV . AVere I not so debarred I should willingly become a shareholder in the company . Y . I thiuk that the company has every prospect of a great success , and is a good and legitimate thing for the brethren to take up . Its promoters have agreed to give

us a liberal rent , but there is ample margin for the shareholders to make a large profit . YI . The risk appears to me to be slight . This company is unlike other companies formed for similar purposes—inasmuch as it is not required to lay out one shilling of its capital in land , bricks , or mortar , the society completing at its own cost tbe whole of the

building ; and it has not got to make a business , but has a really good business ready made to its hand , which a moderate capital and good management cannot fail to increase immensely . Lastly . The / aptuZs and rooms forming the front of tho new building have not been commenced , because it is necessary to carry on the work in sections for the convenience of the Craft , and to avoid interfering with the

business of our tenants . Before we can take away the old lodge-rooms and the executive offices , we must have the new ones ready . These latter are now being roofed in , will be finished in December , and will , I trust , be occupied early in the new year . We are breaking through into the vestibule of the present great hall in order to form the staircase , and

( Masonic ) approach to the present and future great balls , and we are doing it now because such new means of access will shortly be necessary , because the present slack time of year suits best the convenience of our tenants , and because by getting all the interior work finished and ready for occupation , we shall occasion the least inconvenience , and we shall be able to carry up the

whole facade at once . There must , of course , be some inconvenience to all parties , and chiefly in the means of access , till the work is completed . I am sure that our brethren will put up with the inconvenience good-naturedly , and I can assure them , on behalf of the committee , that we will spare no pains to make it felt as little as possible . Tours fraternally , Aug . 16 , 1864 JOHN HAVERS ; -

Le Monde Maconnique And The Freemasons' Magazine.

LE MONDE MACONNIQUE AND THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE .

Our French contemporary once more takes us to task for the manner in which our MAGAZINE is conducted—founding its observations on the preface to our last volume , winch is , in fact , a resume of the events of the previous six months . In the

first place we are blamed for devoting too much of that two-paged address to the matters of the outer world , and too little to matters purely Masonic , especially the " intellectual movement of Masonry in all parts of the ' world . " Alas !

where are we to find them ? Certainl y not in English lodges—assuredly not in the pages of lie Monde Maconnicfue . We are told that the English brethren " see with regret that Masonry does not possess a more earnest organ in England" than the FBEEHASONS * MAGAZINE . We regret if it is not as earnest and

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CURIOUS SEPULCHRAL MONUMENTS IN WARWICKSHIRE, OF THE 13TH AND 14TH CENTURIES. Article 5
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 6
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 8
MASONRY ABROAD. Article 10
Untitled Article 10
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 11
METROPOLITAN. Article 13
PROVINCIAL. Article 13
Untitled Article 15
CHINA. Article 16
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 16
THE WEEK. Article 17
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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The Grand Lodge Property.

THE GRAND LODGE PROPERTY .

LONDON , SATURDAY , AUGUST 20 , 1861 .

We had lioped that at least for some months we should be excused from writing on this subject , but we have received a letter from Bro . Havers which cannot be altogether passed without notice . Our respected brother confirms Avhat we stated

from the first , that under no circumstances can the Freemasons ' ' Hall and buildings proper be leased to any parties , either" in an individual or corporate capacity ; but that the Tavern is to be a thoroughly distinct establishment , over which the Graft will have no further control than that of lessees . Bro .

Havers g ives a distinct approval of the new company , Avhich we doubt not will have its wei ght with the Craft , whilst we cannot otherwise than approve the decision which the committee has come to of abstaining from becoming shareholders ; for had

they done so . , it must have created some dissatisfaction with , regard to any arrangement entered into with the Tavern Company . We understand that , up to the present moment , of the 6 , 500 shares to be subscribed for , applications

have been received for upwards of 4 , 000 , and that without any regard to the directors or their friends , whose applications are yet to come in , and which , if only equal to one-half of what is promised , will more than cover the whole amount .

We subjoin Bro . Havers letter : TO TUB EDITOR OP THE FBEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AUD MASONIC HIUKOJl . DEAII SIR AND BROTHER , —So many inquiries Lave been made of me , both verbally and otherwise , on the subject of the Now Buildings , and of the proposed Company , that I think it better to ask your permission to lto them generall .

repy y I . The new "Freemasons' Hall" and the Tavern , which will adjoin it , will be separate and distinct . The former will contain the present great hall , boardrooms , lodge-rooms , offices for the Grand Secretary and his clerks , offices for the Charities , Grand Masters' and Grand Officers' rooms , library , coffee-room , waitingrooms , Grand Tyler ' s apartments , & c . This part of the

building will possess a handsome facade of Portland stone , and will be devoted solely and exclusively to the use of the fraternity . The Tavern will contain all the recommendations necessary for carrying on a first-class business , including ( besides dining-rooms of ordinary dimensions ) a new great halllarger and more commodious than the present

, one , and two subsidiary dining-rooms of large dimensions , with suitable approaches and ante-rooms , & c ; the ( s uite of apartments which can be thrown open will , I believe , be unequalled in any similar establishment in London . II . The contemplated lease to the company refers to the Tavern only .

III . Neither I , nor any member of the committee , as far as I know , I believe , have , or propose to have , any share or interest in the new company , and for the sole but sufficient reason that , as representing the interests

The Grand Lodge Property.

of Grand Lodge , we could not be in the position of being both buyers aud sellers . IV . AVere I not so debarred I should willingly become a shareholder in the company . Y . I thiuk that the company has every prospect of a great success , and is a good and legitimate thing for the brethren to take up . Its promoters have agreed to give

us a liberal rent , but there is ample margin for the shareholders to make a large profit . YI . The risk appears to me to be slight . This company is unlike other companies formed for similar purposes—inasmuch as it is not required to lay out one shilling of its capital in land , bricks , or mortar , the society completing at its own cost tbe whole of the

building ; and it has not got to make a business , but has a really good business ready made to its hand , which a moderate capital and good management cannot fail to increase immensely . Lastly . The / aptuZs and rooms forming the front of tho new building have not been commenced , because it is necessary to carry on the work in sections for the convenience of the Craft , and to avoid interfering with the

business of our tenants . Before we can take away the old lodge-rooms and the executive offices , we must have the new ones ready . These latter are now being roofed in , will be finished in December , and will , I trust , be occupied early in the new year . We are breaking through into the vestibule of the present great hall in order to form the staircase , and

( Masonic ) approach to the present and future great balls , and we are doing it now because such new means of access will shortly be necessary , because the present slack time of year suits best the convenience of our tenants , and because by getting all the interior work finished and ready for occupation , we shall occasion the least inconvenience , and we shall be able to carry up the

whole facade at once . There must , of course , be some inconvenience to all parties , and chiefly in the means of access , till the work is completed . I am sure that our brethren will put up with the inconvenience good-naturedly , and I can assure them , on behalf of the committee , that we will spare no pains to make it felt as little as possible . Tours fraternally , Aug . 16 , 1864 JOHN HAVERS ; -

Le Monde Maconnique And The Freemasons' Magazine.

LE MONDE MACONNIQUE AND THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE .

Our French contemporary once more takes us to task for the manner in which our MAGAZINE is conducted—founding its observations on the preface to our last volume , winch is , in fact , a resume of the events of the previous six months . In the

first place we are blamed for devoting too much of that two-paged address to the matters of the outer world , and too little to matters purely Masonic , especially the " intellectual movement of Masonry in all parts of the ' world . " Alas !

where are we to find them ? Certainl y not in English lodges—assuredly not in the pages of lie Monde Maconnicfue . We are told that the English brethren " see with regret that Masonry does not possess a more earnest organ in England" than the FBEEHASONS * MAGAZINE . We regret if it is not as earnest and

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