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Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

XEGKO LODGES AXU BEETHEEX . At a time like the present , when the American President Lincoln has politely intimated to the negroes that the } ' had better migrate from the civilised portions of America towards the unexplored tracts , the feeling with which , even as brother Masons , they are regarded will be best shown by the subjoined documents , extracted

from a Grand Lodge correspondence in 1 S 59 . —Ex . Ex . SIR WALTEE . ItAI / EIGII . Wanted proofs of Bro . Dr . Oliver ' s assertion that Sir Walter Raleigh was a brother , —a High Grade Mason ? First contribution : —• " Give me my scallop , shell of quiet ,

My staff of faith to walk upon ; My scrip of joy , immortal diet ; My bottle of Salvation . My gown of glory ( hopes true guage , ) Ancl then I'll take my pilgrimage . " —A .

liAJIEUEGIT . [ Extracted from a report of the New York Committee on Foreign Correspondence . ] "Imperious circumstances require , at the hands of your Committee , a notice of the very singular movements of this tody . It will he remembered that the Grand Lodge of Hamburgh has two subordinates in this city , which were chartered by that body several years ago . The Grand Lodge of New

York , by its Grand Master , in a very respectful and fraterna , communication , explained to that body our constitutional rules prohibiting the organisation of lodges in this jurisdiction , by any other Grand Lodge whatever , and fraternally requested the withdrawal or revocation of these charters . To this communication a reply was made by Hamburgh , that they had a right to issue these charters , and they should persist in their continuance . New York thenafter remonstrating against the actas

, , an unwarranted invasion of our jurisdictional rights , and opposed to the policy of the Grand Lodges in the United States generally , declared the Hamburgh subordinates irregular ancl clandestine , ancl forbade all Masonic intercourse with the members of those bodies , and suspended all intercourse with the parent body iu Europe , ancl its constituents . This action was seconded by our sister Grand Lod throughout the Unionancl

ges , resolutions were adopted by some of them of greater stringency , if possible , than had been adopted by the Grand Lodge of New York ; so that now no Hamburgh Mason can obtain admission to a regular lodge in this country . This course was demanded by the necessities of the case . All other means had been

exiiausted to persuade that body to withdraw its charter , without avail . To have tamely submitted to this violation of our territorial rights , would have destroyed the sovereignty of the Grand Lodges in their respective jurisdictions , spread dissension , conflict ancl turmoil among tho Fraternity , and would have ultimatel y dissolved the Grand Lodges . The Grand Lodge of Hamburgh , seeming to be . conscionsof the great wrong they are inflicting the Fraternitnot onlof New Yorkhut of tho

upon y , y , United States , have adopted a system of reprisals , in retaliation of her supposed grievance , that is unheard of in the history of Jiasonry . We have received , through tho Grand Secretary , wore our able , faithful , and indefatigable representative , near ™ e Grand Lodge of Saxony , at Dresden , the R . W . Bro . Von -Uettsch , several communications detailing-these facts , and giving an account of his own doings in the premises .

-The first is a report of the transactions of the Grand Lodge « Hamburgh for the 6 th of May , 1858 , which reads as follows , JW' - ~ 'The Grand Lodge of Hamburgh beg leave to submit to toe consideration of those sister Grand Lodges in Europe , more Ultimatel y connected with u matter of general importance , requesting them to report their opinion , what action in relation thereto might be to be takenaud which at the

, necessary , same time might be calculated to meet the approbation of a majority < w them . There exists iu some the States of North America , titles the lodges at Hayti , many independent lodges of coloured ^ fie ( negroes , mulattoes , & c ., ) as , for instance , " in Massachusetts , New York , Pennsylvania , Ohio , New Jersey , Maryland , ' ¦ y . They are united under Grand Lodges under the jurisdiction of a National Grand Lochre of America . We know little

about them , because they are declared by the North American Grand Lodges as clandestine lodges , ancl all Masonic intercourse with them is strictly forbidden . Their origin is unknown . The African lodge at Boston insists upon having obtained its charter from the Grand Lodge of England ; this is , however , doubtful . According to an assertion of some of our German brethren , who have , free from prejudice , visited Negro lodges in New York , they could find nothing tending to prevent them from

pronouncing- these lodges jnsfc and perfect . In North America , however , in the land of boasted liberty , a negro or mulatto , in short , any person in whose veins a single drop of coloured blood runs , be he twice as righteous , honest , well educated , talented , and scientific , is considered nn outcast , and all intercourse with such person is regarded as a disgrace . The prejudice against coloured leeven in those States not counted as slave States ,

peop , and where none but free negroes live , as , for instance , in the State of New York , is of such a nature that no white person would sit down with a negro at the same table , or travel with one in the same stage . That even our American brethren are not free from this prejudice is a fact well known and deeply to be regretted . In the transactions of the Grand Lodge of New York ( Willard ) for 1 S 55 the question whether coloured persons

, , could be admitted as Masons was regarded as a monstrous proposition , and unworthy of discussion . At tho Masonic . Convention in Paris , in 1 S 55 , Bro . Cummings , representative of Washington , insinuated that the European lodges , in consideraliou of the condition in America , might be induced not to admit negroes ; this insinuation was , however , rejected . Under these prejudical circumstances on the part of

the North American Grand Lodges , it is impossible to avoid the conclusion that coloured lodges and coloured Grand Lodges never will be recognised by them . But are the Grand Lodges of Europe , where such prejudices are unknown , thereby bound to deny the legitimacy of a great number of otherwise just and lawful lodges , and to refuse their brethren admittance into our lodges because they are of a darker colour ? The fact that a Grand Lodgo of a negro State—that of Hayti , with its subordinates—has been recognised by most of the European Grand Lodges as a legal Grand Lodge , and that its representative at the Masonic Convention at

Paris has been accredited , and furthermore and in particular the fact that this Grand Lodge is enumerated as such on the list of Prussian Grand Lodges is sufficient proof that such a prejudice has no existence in European Grand Lodges . The Grand Lodge , of another negro State , that of the Republic of Liberia , in Africa , although too young yet and too little known , may , in the course of time , rely upon being recognised by the European Grand Lodges as weil as that of Hayti " . As to the Grand

Lodges and their subordinates of coloured people , the North American Grand Lodges might appeal to a monopoly , according to which only one Grand Lodge can legally exist in one and the same State ; and no lodge can legally exist in such State without the sanction of the Grand Lodge thereof . This monopoly has been created by common consent , and is not founded , as , for instance , in Prussia , on a demand of the Government . The Grand Lodge of Hamburghin consequence of having- been

re-, gardless of this monopoly , as far as i : concerns German lodges , came in conflict with them . On this ground the right of discussing tho propriety of such monopoly might tho Grand Lodge at Hamburgh be denied ; but here it must be premised that this action of the Grand Lodge at Hamburgh has only reference to such lodges , which , if they had been disposed to join the Grand Lodge of the Statewouldundoubtedlyhave been rejected by

, , , the same on the supposition that tho members of such lodges were unlit for reception . When American lodges , in respect to a general prejudice prevailing there , deem it proper to reject coloured persons ; when they refuse members of coloured lodges admittance , forbidding at the same time all Masonic intercourse with them , they may , politically , bo iu the right , but not Masonically , and cannot expect European lodges to agree with

them on this point . The connection of Europe with other parts of the world , increasing from year to year , demands a discussion of this question , which ere long may be submitted to the consideration of each European lodge , in particular to lodges in seaports and in Germany , hut to the lodges at Hamburgh . The Grand Lodge at Hamburg will , at its next convention , make this question the topic of deliberation , relying thereby upon tho support of his sister Grand Lodges , desiring them to communicate their views and intentions in respect to the recognition of the Grand Lodge of the Republic of Libera , in Africa , but in particular in respect to the lodges and Grand

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A ROMAN CATHOLIC'S NOTION OF FREEMASONRY. Article 2
BRITISH ARCHITECTS. Article 5
THE PATH OF LIFE. —AN ALLEGORY. Article 6
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 9
THE PARIS UNIVERSAL AND PERMANENT EXHIBITION. Article 12
CASES OF EMERGENCY. Article 12
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 13
THE MOUNT CALVARY ENCAMPMENT. Article 13
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 14
AUSTRALIA. Article 14
CANADA. Article 15
AMERICA. Article 16
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
MARK MASONRY. Article 17
Poetry. Article 17
TO A YOUNG MASON WHO DECLARED HE SAW NO BEAUTY IN NATURE. Article 17
Obituary. Article 17
FREEMASONS AT LAW. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 19
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

XEGKO LODGES AXU BEETHEEX . At a time like the present , when the American President Lincoln has politely intimated to the negroes that the } ' had better migrate from the civilised portions of America towards the unexplored tracts , the feeling with which , even as brother Masons , they are regarded will be best shown by the subjoined documents , extracted

from a Grand Lodge correspondence in 1 S 59 . —Ex . Ex . SIR WALTEE . ItAI / EIGII . Wanted proofs of Bro . Dr . Oliver ' s assertion that Sir Walter Raleigh was a brother , —a High Grade Mason ? First contribution : —• " Give me my scallop , shell of quiet ,

My staff of faith to walk upon ; My scrip of joy , immortal diet ; My bottle of Salvation . My gown of glory ( hopes true guage , ) Ancl then I'll take my pilgrimage . " —A .

liAJIEUEGIT . [ Extracted from a report of the New York Committee on Foreign Correspondence . ] "Imperious circumstances require , at the hands of your Committee , a notice of the very singular movements of this tody . It will he remembered that the Grand Lodge of Hamburgh has two subordinates in this city , which were chartered by that body several years ago . The Grand Lodge of New

York , by its Grand Master , in a very respectful and fraterna , communication , explained to that body our constitutional rules prohibiting the organisation of lodges in this jurisdiction , by any other Grand Lodge whatever , and fraternally requested the withdrawal or revocation of these charters . To this communication a reply was made by Hamburgh , that they had a right to issue these charters , and they should persist in their continuance . New York thenafter remonstrating against the actas

, , an unwarranted invasion of our jurisdictional rights , and opposed to the policy of the Grand Lodges in the United States generally , declared the Hamburgh subordinates irregular ancl clandestine , ancl forbade all Masonic intercourse with the members of those bodies , and suspended all intercourse with the parent body iu Europe , ancl its constituents . This action was seconded by our sister Grand Lod throughout the Unionancl

ges , resolutions were adopted by some of them of greater stringency , if possible , than had been adopted by the Grand Lodge of New York ; so that now no Hamburgh Mason can obtain admission to a regular lodge in this country . This course was demanded by the necessities of the case . All other means had been

exiiausted to persuade that body to withdraw its charter , without avail . To have tamely submitted to this violation of our territorial rights , would have destroyed the sovereignty of the Grand Lodges in their respective jurisdictions , spread dissension , conflict ancl turmoil among tho Fraternity , and would have ultimatel y dissolved the Grand Lodges . The Grand Lodge of Hamburgh , seeming to be . conscionsof the great wrong they are inflicting the Fraternitnot onlof New Yorkhut of tho

upon y , y , United States , have adopted a system of reprisals , in retaliation of her supposed grievance , that is unheard of in the history of Jiasonry . We have received , through tho Grand Secretary , wore our able , faithful , and indefatigable representative , near ™ e Grand Lodge of Saxony , at Dresden , the R . W . Bro . Von -Uettsch , several communications detailing-these facts , and giving an account of his own doings in the premises .

-The first is a report of the transactions of the Grand Lodge « Hamburgh for the 6 th of May , 1858 , which reads as follows , JW' - ~ 'The Grand Lodge of Hamburgh beg leave to submit to toe consideration of those sister Grand Lodges in Europe , more Ultimatel y connected with u matter of general importance , requesting them to report their opinion , what action in relation thereto might be to be takenaud which at the

, necessary , same time might be calculated to meet the approbation of a majority < w them . There exists iu some the States of North America , titles the lodges at Hayti , many independent lodges of coloured ^ fie ( negroes , mulattoes , & c ., ) as , for instance , " in Massachusetts , New York , Pennsylvania , Ohio , New Jersey , Maryland , ' ¦ y . They are united under Grand Lodges under the jurisdiction of a National Grand Lochre of America . We know little

about them , because they are declared by the North American Grand Lodges as clandestine lodges , ancl all Masonic intercourse with them is strictly forbidden . Their origin is unknown . The African lodge at Boston insists upon having obtained its charter from the Grand Lodge of England ; this is , however , doubtful . According to an assertion of some of our German brethren , who have , free from prejudice , visited Negro lodges in New York , they could find nothing tending to prevent them from

pronouncing- these lodges jnsfc and perfect . In North America , however , in the land of boasted liberty , a negro or mulatto , in short , any person in whose veins a single drop of coloured blood runs , be he twice as righteous , honest , well educated , talented , and scientific , is considered nn outcast , and all intercourse with such person is regarded as a disgrace . The prejudice against coloured leeven in those States not counted as slave States ,

peop , and where none but free negroes live , as , for instance , in the State of New York , is of such a nature that no white person would sit down with a negro at the same table , or travel with one in the same stage . That even our American brethren are not free from this prejudice is a fact well known and deeply to be regretted . In the transactions of the Grand Lodge of New York ( Willard ) for 1 S 55 the question whether coloured persons

, , could be admitted as Masons was regarded as a monstrous proposition , and unworthy of discussion . At tho Masonic . Convention in Paris , in 1 S 55 , Bro . Cummings , representative of Washington , insinuated that the European lodges , in consideraliou of the condition in America , might be induced not to admit negroes ; this insinuation was , however , rejected . Under these prejudical circumstances on the part of

the North American Grand Lodges , it is impossible to avoid the conclusion that coloured lodges and coloured Grand Lodges never will be recognised by them . But are the Grand Lodges of Europe , where such prejudices are unknown , thereby bound to deny the legitimacy of a great number of otherwise just and lawful lodges , and to refuse their brethren admittance into our lodges because they are of a darker colour ? The fact that a Grand Lodgo of a negro State—that of Hayti , with its subordinates—has been recognised by most of the European Grand Lodges as a legal Grand Lodge , and that its representative at the Masonic Convention at

Paris has been accredited , and furthermore and in particular the fact that this Grand Lodge is enumerated as such on the list of Prussian Grand Lodges is sufficient proof that such a prejudice has no existence in European Grand Lodges . The Grand Lodge , of another negro State , that of the Republic of Liberia , in Africa , although too young yet and too little known , may , in the course of time , rely upon being recognised by the European Grand Lodges as weil as that of Hayti " . As to the Grand

Lodges and their subordinates of coloured people , the North American Grand Lodges might appeal to a monopoly , according to which only one Grand Lodge can legally exist in one and the same State ; and no lodge can legally exist in such State without the sanction of the Grand Lodge thereof . This monopoly has been created by common consent , and is not founded , as , for instance , in Prussia , on a demand of the Government . The Grand Lodge of Hamburghin consequence of having- been

re-, gardless of this monopoly , as far as i : concerns German lodges , came in conflict with them . On this ground the right of discussing tho propriety of such monopoly might tho Grand Lodge at Hamburgh be denied ; but here it must be premised that this action of the Grand Lodge at Hamburgh has only reference to such lodges , which , if they had been disposed to join the Grand Lodge of the Statewouldundoubtedlyhave been rejected by

, , , the same on the supposition that tho members of such lodges were unlit for reception . When American lodges , in respect to a general prejudice prevailing there , deem it proper to reject coloured persons ; when they refuse members of coloured lodges admittance , forbidding at the same time all Masonic intercourse with them , they may , politically , bo iu the right , but not Masonically , and cannot expect European lodges to agree with

them on this point . The connection of Europe with other parts of the world , increasing from year to year , demands a discussion of this question , which ere long may be submitted to the consideration of each European lodge , in particular to lodges in seaports and in Germany , hut to the lodges at Hamburgh . The Grand Lodge at Hamburg will , at its next convention , make this question the topic of deliberation , relying thereby upon tho support of his sister Grand Lodges , desiring them to communicate their views and intentions in respect to the recognition of the Grand Lodge of the Republic of Libera , in Africa , but in particular in respect to the lodges and Grand

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