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The "Norwich Mercury," And The Norwich Masons.

North Walsham was the Mercury reporter ; and it is evident from his statement , published in the last article , that the editor must have learnt sufficiently from what occurred there , that theMasons were not willing to have a non-Masonic reporter present on such occasions . It is also a curious circumstance that , if the Mercury reporter went to the assembly rooms , not on speculation but

armed with the authority of Bro . Cabbell , he should have considered ifc necessary to wait there a considerable time , in order to apply personally to Bro . Cabbell or Bro . Leedes Fox , to know whether he could be admitted , instead of going straight up to Bro . Marshall and asking for a ticket . I contend , then , that if there ever were "touting" for an invitationthe editor of the Mercury most decidedldid

, y " tout" for one for his reporter . It is also quite evident that another employe on the Mercury had been "touting" likewise . Bro . Cummins , in his letter in the MAGAZINE ot last week , exculpates himself satisfactorily from auy imputation of breach of Masonic confidence . I did not charge him with telling his employer , though I must say I suspected himas others did ; and I

, am quite ready to say that I fully believe his disclaimer , and did not indeed think that he would have done such a thing wittingly , but thought he might have been betrayed into some unguarded remarks . I entirely dissent , however , from his assertion that tho occurrence at the dinner was publicly talked about on the following day in the city . It was the article in the Mercury that made it a general

scandal ; and that is one ofthe charges I make against that paper , and against the person or persons who gave the editor such information . As to the incidental allusion I made as to how Bro . Commins got into the banquet-room , I think both his employer and himself would have shown more discretion to have let that matter drop . The editor

says that his overseer was not present at the dinner—only after the dinner . Surely , if he did not take a ticket , he hi ! j . d no more right to drink the wine after the dinner than to eat the fish , flesh , and fowl at the dinner . He says he was "invited" to sit down at the table ; but how came to be hovering about " Like a stray soul upon the Stygian bank , waiting for waftage ? "

If he too was not " touting " for an invitation , I can't understand why be should have been on the premises at all . I cannot help saying this , because Bro . Cummins has complained of the expression I used about the manner in which he got into the banquet room , which was remarked upon very freely , and in his own hearing , by more than one brother , in consequence of his making himself so

conspicuous by getting up on a chair , and demanding the expulsion of the two disorderly guests . With regard to the North Walsham affair , the editor of Mercury says he was " recpiested" to attend " by a gentleman living near North Walsham . " It is to be presumed that that gentleman is a mason ; and if he did " request " the Mercury to send a reporter , knowing they could not send one who was a Mason , he , too , committed an act of

great presumption m doing so , and no doubt perceived his mistake afterwards . The editor says also that his reporter was not " introduced " into the banquet by another person on the establishment . What quibble is connected under the word "introduced ? " Ho was driven over to North Walsham by the person in question , who is a Mason , and that person , as I was credibly informed , applied for the

ticket for the reporter , and got it . If this is the case , the reporter ' s statement , that he did not apply for admission , is a mere evasion ; though he did not apply personally , the application was made in his behalf ; and as the editor published a " statement" of his reporter , he ought also to have published a statement from the other party , who could have explained exactly the manner in which the thing was

managed . Assuming , however , that the reporter obtained admission at North Walsham in a perfectly legitimate way , that does not get rid of the fact that be soon discovered he had no business to be there , and that a mistake had been made somewhere ; indeed , he complains of being treated in an unmannerly way , though very great delicacy was shown in allowing him to remain at all in the room . In spile of all that , his employer wished to put himthroughthe same | ordeal again .

The "Norwich Mercury," And The Norwich Masons.

The reporter , perhaps , to please his employer , has a fling of his own at the Masons ; he was inclined , forsooth , before this to join ' the Order , "butif that was the way they treated strangers , he should not . " I repeat that intruders in other companies would not have been treated with so much forbearance , and it was purely out of personal consideration for the reporter , knowing that he had not voluntarily placed himself in such

a situation , but had been brought there in the discharge of his professional duty—that he was not dealt with as intruders upon Masonry are and ought to be . I return now to the chief issue I raised—did any brother of authority in the Order ever sanction such a departure from Masonic rule as the admission of a non-Mason to a purely Masonic banquet ? This is a question I leave for

those to answer whose names the editor of the Mercury has introduced into this matter . And whichever ' way that question maybe decided , I maintain the editor of the Mercury must still be considered to have acted in a very undignified way throughout the whole business , and to have done little credit to himself and his newspaper by this " pitiful " attempt to cast discredit upon the Freemasons of Norfolk . I am , sir ancl brother , yours fraternally , A NORWICH FREEMASON .

Sussex Provincial Grand Meeting.

SUSSEX PROVINCIAL GRAND MEETING .

TO THE EDITOIt OE THE H' . EEMASONS * JIASAZISE AKD MASONIC MIKEOE . SIR AND BROTHER . —Your correspondent "Progress , " a fortnight since urged the importance of the F REEMASONS ' MAGAZINE being represented at the forthcoming annual meeting of the Grand Lodge of Sussex . I sincerely echo his wish , under the impression that , for more reasons than one , it is very desirable .

My object however , in writing is to express the belief that " Progress " ( who is desevedly entitled to every credit for continually advocating the necessity of a Masonic Hall at Brighton ) , isfor once greatly abroad ancl at variance with the truth when he states that the province is working harmoniously ; that the V . W . the Deputy Provincial Grand Master has visited the lodges under his control for the

purpose of acquainting himself as fco their position , and cultivating a friendly Masonic feeling with the brethren , and that the new appointments will be received with satisfaction generally by the Craft in the province . Upon tbe contrary , I think it will very shortly be proved that a good Masonic feeling does not prevail throughout the provinceand thatwhether as regards the doings in and

, , out of the several lodges , and the provincial management (?) , we cannot be compared to many other provinces . To the credit of the brethren be it spoken they are charitably ( iu a pecuniary sense ) inclined . Again , I affirm that the D . Prov . G . M . is not in a position to bear witness to the prosperity or non-prosperity , good management or

mismanagement of the lodges in Sussex , for the simple reason that not six visits ( and " I am giving scope ) have been paid by him during the last two years . He must , therefore , rely upon tbe returns made him , or the information supplied by the Prov . G . Sec , almost an equal stranger to the lodges , not a regular attendant of his mother lodge , and a deserter of his own bantling , the Brighton Lodge of Masonic

Instruction (?) Lastly , I maintain that the intended appointments will not afford general satisfaction , but will create , to use a mild expression , general discontent . Were I to mention the names of the brethren selected , their antecedents , and circumstances which have transpired in connection therewith , I could substantiate what I have stated , but I trust ou the 27 th inst . you will be present to

judge for yourself . In conclusion , I hopo " Progress" is not also wide of his mark in stating that at last the brethren have been awakened to the necessity of a " Masonic Hall at Brighton . " I cannot , and regretfully I say it , hear that the " Hall Committee" are up and doing . I am , Sir and Brother , fraternally yours , ' " OBSSBVER . " Brighton , August 19 th , 1861 .

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THE PROVINCIAL GRAND LODGE OF NORFOLK. Article 1
CLASSICAL THEOLOGY.—XLV. Article 2
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THE GEORGE STREET " MODEL" LODGING HOUSE. Article 4
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 6
NOTES ON LITERATURE SCIENCE AND ART. Article 8
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 9
THE "NORWICH MERCURY," AND THE NORWICH MASONS. Article 10
SUSSEX PROVINCIAL GRAND MEETING. Article 11
ANCIENT AND MODERN MASONRY. Article 12
THE CRAFT AND PRIVATE SOLDIERS. Article 12
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 13
PROVINCIAL. Article 13
ROYAL ARCH, Article 13
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 13
CANADA. Article 13
AUSTRALIA. Article 16
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 17
A MASON IN DISTRESS. Article 17
Fine Arts. Article 17
Obituary. Article 18
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 18
NOTES ON MUSIC AND THE DRAMA. Article 19
THE WEEK, Article 19
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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The "Norwich Mercury," And The Norwich Masons.

North Walsham was the Mercury reporter ; and it is evident from his statement , published in the last article , that the editor must have learnt sufficiently from what occurred there , that theMasons were not willing to have a non-Masonic reporter present on such occasions . It is also a curious circumstance that , if the Mercury reporter went to the assembly rooms , not on speculation but

armed with the authority of Bro . Cabbell , he should have considered ifc necessary to wait there a considerable time , in order to apply personally to Bro . Cabbell or Bro . Leedes Fox , to know whether he could be admitted , instead of going straight up to Bro . Marshall and asking for a ticket . I contend , then , that if there ever were "touting" for an invitationthe editor of the Mercury most decidedldid

, y " tout" for one for his reporter . It is also quite evident that another employe on the Mercury had been "touting" likewise . Bro . Cummins , in his letter in the MAGAZINE ot last week , exculpates himself satisfactorily from auy imputation of breach of Masonic confidence . I did not charge him with telling his employer , though I must say I suspected himas others did ; and I

, am quite ready to say that I fully believe his disclaimer , and did not indeed think that he would have done such a thing wittingly , but thought he might have been betrayed into some unguarded remarks . I entirely dissent , however , from his assertion that tho occurrence at the dinner was publicly talked about on the following day in the city . It was the article in the Mercury that made it a general

scandal ; and that is one ofthe charges I make against that paper , and against the person or persons who gave the editor such information . As to the incidental allusion I made as to how Bro . Commins got into the banquet-room , I think both his employer and himself would have shown more discretion to have let that matter drop . The editor

says that his overseer was not present at the dinner—only after the dinner . Surely , if he did not take a ticket , he hi ! j . d no more right to drink the wine after the dinner than to eat the fish , flesh , and fowl at the dinner . He says he was "invited" to sit down at the table ; but how came to be hovering about " Like a stray soul upon the Stygian bank , waiting for waftage ? "

If he too was not " touting " for an invitation , I can't understand why be should have been on the premises at all . I cannot help saying this , because Bro . Cummins has complained of the expression I used about the manner in which he got into the banquet room , which was remarked upon very freely , and in his own hearing , by more than one brother , in consequence of his making himself so

conspicuous by getting up on a chair , and demanding the expulsion of the two disorderly guests . With regard to the North Walsham affair , the editor of Mercury says he was " recpiested" to attend " by a gentleman living near North Walsham . " It is to be presumed that that gentleman is a mason ; and if he did " request " the Mercury to send a reporter , knowing they could not send one who was a Mason , he , too , committed an act of

great presumption m doing so , and no doubt perceived his mistake afterwards . The editor says also that his reporter was not " introduced " into the banquet by another person on the establishment . What quibble is connected under the word "introduced ? " Ho was driven over to North Walsham by the person in question , who is a Mason , and that person , as I was credibly informed , applied for the

ticket for the reporter , and got it . If this is the case , the reporter ' s statement , that he did not apply for admission , is a mere evasion ; though he did not apply personally , the application was made in his behalf ; and as the editor published a " statement" of his reporter , he ought also to have published a statement from the other party , who could have explained exactly the manner in which the thing was

managed . Assuming , however , that the reporter obtained admission at North Walsham in a perfectly legitimate way , that does not get rid of the fact that be soon discovered he had no business to be there , and that a mistake had been made somewhere ; indeed , he complains of being treated in an unmannerly way , though very great delicacy was shown in allowing him to remain at all in the room . In spile of all that , his employer wished to put himthroughthe same | ordeal again .

The "Norwich Mercury," And The Norwich Masons.

The reporter , perhaps , to please his employer , has a fling of his own at the Masons ; he was inclined , forsooth , before this to join ' the Order , "butif that was the way they treated strangers , he should not . " I repeat that intruders in other companies would not have been treated with so much forbearance , and it was purely out of personal consideration for the reporter , knowing that he had not voluntarily placed himself in such

a situation , but had been brought there in the discharge of his professional duty—that he was not dealt with as intruders upon Masonry are and ought to be . I return now to the chief issue I raised—did any brother of authority in the Order ever sanction such a departure from Masonic rule as the admission of a non-Mason to a purely Masonic banquet ? This is a question I leave for

those to answer whose names the editor of the Mercury has introduced into this matter . And whichever ' way that question maybe decided , I maintain the editor of the Mercury must still be considered to have acted in a very undignified way throughout the whole business , and to have done little credit to himself and his newspaper by this " pitiful " attempt to cast discredit upon the Freemasons of Norfolk . I am , sir ancl brother , yours fraternally , A NORWICH FREEMASON .

Sussex Provincial Grand Meeting.

SUSSEX PROVINCIAL GRAND MEETING .

TO THE EDITOIt OE THE H' . EEMASONS * JIASAZISE AKD MASONIC MIKEOE . SIR AND BROTHER . —Your correspondent "Progress , " a fortnight since urged the importance of the F REEMASONS ' MAGAZINE being represented at the forthcoming annual meeting of the Grand Lodge of Sussex . I sincerely echo his wish , under the impression that , for more reasons than one , it is very desirable .

My object however , in writing is to express the belief that " Progress " ( who is desevedly entitled to every credit for continually advocating the necessity of a Masonic Hall at Brighton ) , isfor once greatly abroad ancl at variance with the truth when he states that the province is working harmoniously ; that the V . W . the Deputy Provincial Grand Master has visited the lodges under his control for the

purpose of acquainting himself as fco their position , and cultivating a friendly Masonic feeling with the brethren , and that the new appointments will be received with satisfaction generally by the Craft in the province . Upon tbe contrary , I think it will very shortly be proved that a good Masonic feeling does not prevail throughout the provinceand thatwhether as regards the doings in and

, , out of the several lodges , and the provincial management (?) , we cannot be compared to many other provinces . To the credit of the brethren be it spoken they are charitably ( iu a pecuniary sense ) inclined . Again , I affirm that the D . Prov . G . M . is not in a position to bear witness to the prosperity or non-prosperity , good management or

mismanagement of the lodges in Sussex , for the simple reason that not six visits ( and " I am giving scope ) have been paid by him during the last two years . He must , therefore , rely upon tbe returns made him , or the information supplied by the Prov . G . Sec , almost an equal stranger to the lodges , not a regular attendant of his mother lodge , and a deserter of his own bantling , the Brighton Lodge of Masonic

Instruction (?) Lastly , I maintain that the intended appointments will not afford general satisfaction , but will create , to use a mild expression , general discontent . Were I to mention the names of the brethren selected , their antecedents , and circumstances which have transpired in connection therewith , I could substantiate what I have stated , but I trust ou the 27 th inst . you will be present to

judge for yourself . In conclusion , I hopo " Progress" is not also wide of his mark in stating that at last the brethren have been awakened to the necessity of a " Masonic Hall at Brighton . " I cannot , and regretfully I say it , hear that the " Hall Committee" are up and doing . I am , Sir and Brother , fraternally yours , ' " OBSSBVER . " Brighton , August 19 th , 1861 .

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