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Masonic Notes And Queries.
[ Gadieke says they " aresuch as have been formed hy avaricious Freemasons , who take money from those people who can have no idea of the difference betiveen warranted and unwarranted lodges . " Any number of Masons forming themselves into a lodge without the approbation previously obtained from a Grand Lodge is clandestine : and any lodgehowever regular it
, might have been at its formation , continuing to work after the revocation of its warrant , by proper authority , is deemed clandestine , aud its membership clandestine or irregular Masons . "With such lodges , and their membership , no regular Mason can Masonically associate .
Correspondence.
CORRESPONDENCE .
The "EdUoy is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents . PROVINCIAL GRAND MASTERS . t £ 0 ttHE EDITOR OP TIIE FREEMASONS' 3 IAGAZ 1 NE AUD JTASOSIC 3 IIK 310 E . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —After an interval of a year and three quartersa meeting of the Provincial
, Grand Lodge of Jersey has been called and held for the purpose of installing a D . Prov . G . M ., as mentioned in the report already communicated to you . Allow me to quote from the by-laws of the Jersey Provincial Grand Lodge . " 1 . That this Provincial Grand Lodge shall be held
once in every year at the least , at such place as the Prov . G . M . shall be pleased to appoint . " 10 . A preparatory committee , consisting of * * shall meet on the Tuesday previous to the annual meeting of the Provincial Grand Lodge , at which meeting any member of the Provincial Grand Lod
ge desirous of making a motion therein , or of submitting any matter to the consideration of the Provincial Grand Lodge , shall give notice of the same to the Prov . G . Sec . in writinsr . . . . And no motion or
other matter shall be brought under discussion in the Provincial Grand Lodge unless it shall have been previously communicated to the aforesaid committee . " Upon this I remark , first , that the Prov . G . M . has been pleased to break the first by-law ; secondly , that interval
so long an having elapsed , he ought to have called a preparatory committee before the meeting ; but nothing of the kind was done ; therefore he broke the 10 th law . The inference to he drawn is , that Prov . G . M . ' s are above the laws , which are made only to keep inferior Masons in order .
One great cause of dissatisfaction among the members of the province at the neglect to hold a meeting . of the Prov . Grand Lodge at the regular period , arises from the fact , that the fees payable by Prov . G . Officers on their appointment , which are unusually heavy in Jersey , have not been collected for one year ,
as there were no fresh elections , and thus the sum of £ 19 19 s . has been lost to the Provincial Grand Lodge funds , which it appears are far from being in a flourishing condition . After the installation , I rose for the purpose of proposing two resolutions , complimentary to the retiring and incoming deputies , for Avhich this appeared the most fitting and graceful time , conceiving that the Prov- G . M ., having broken two laws , would
Correspondence.
permit my propositions as quite m accordance with , and indeed a part of , the business of the day . I suppose he smelt a rat , at least so ifc has been suggested to me , and though other brethren brought forward precedents for the course I desired to adopt , my request was peremptorily refused . Under all circumstances it was natural that he should be suspicious
, dreading opposition , fearful lest " unpleasing truths here mortify the vain , " but ifc was not right , as it appears to me , so to use his position as to treat a number of gentlemen like mere puppets pulled hy the string of a Punch and Judy showman ; nor wjukl some of us have submitted so peaceablybut that
, there Avere several reasons for wishing on that occasion to be perfectly courteous , and to afford not the shadow of ground for complaint . I am informed that the Prov . G . M . afterwards " thanked God that the affair was over , and that , contrary to expectation , the meeting had passed off quietly without his having
been bullied ; thus rendering it one of the happiest days of his life . " Does not this look like a consciousness of deserving such treatment ? I shall he glad to have the opinions of others on the course
pursued at the meeting , though none but those who are conversant with all the circumstances can fully estimate the case . The question naturally suggests itself , whether a man so situated is fit for Prov . G . M . Two attempts have already been made to displace him , with matters
connected with one of Avhieh your readers are partially acquainted , and are therefore aAvare of the difficulties to be encountered . Please God , hoAvever , we ivill make another , even though but three can be found to join in it , unless we are previously gagged by the execution of a threatened suspensionthe object of
, which will he evident , for an alleged , but disputed , trivial breach ol Masonic law , or rather etiquette , which in the view of some appears to be more heinous than offences against the moral Jaws of truth , honour , chastity , & e . Any delay thus caused can be but temporaryand if we ultimatelfailthe Masonic
, y , world will see the effect of regulations in the Book of Constitutions which make Prov . G . M . ' s de facto , irresponsible . Whether the authorities in London can be incited to adopt a remedy is another matter , and if the present state of things is upheld , we may with reason exclaim with Dogberry iu the play ,
" Fore God , they are botb in a tale . " Tours fraternally , P . M Jersey , April 17 th . 1866 .
Popery And Freemasonry.
POPERY AND FREEMASONRY .
TO TIIE EDITOtt OE THE EEEEMASOSS' MAGAZINE AKD MASONIC HISHOK . DEAR SIR AUD BROTHER , —Every true Mason owes you a tribute of gratitude for having exhumed from that oblivion into which they had sunk for many years , those monita seereta that will ever form a lasting monument erected to its own infamy by the
most mischievous aggregation of men that ever disturbed the peace of the world . But will you allow me to submit a few observation with reference to the mode in ivhich you treat the subject . Ton seem to identify the head of the Soman Catholic Church with Jesuitism , and thus establish a joint responsibility between the Pope and the Jesuits' General ; all the
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Masonic Notes And Queries.
[ Gadieke says they " aresuch as have been formed hy avaricious Freemasons , who take money from those people who can have no idea of the difference betiveen warranted and unwarranted lodges . " Any number of Masons forming themselves into a lodge without the approbation previously obtained from a Grand Lodge is clandestine : and any lodgehowever regular it
, might have been at its formation , continuing to work after the revocation of its warrant , by proper authority , is deemed clandestine , aud its membership clandestine or irregular Masons . "With such lodges , and their membership , no regular Mason can Masonically associate .
Correspondence.
CORRESPONDENCE .
The "EdUoy is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents . PROVINCIAL GRAND MASTERS . t £ 0 ttHE EDITOR OP TIIE FREEMASONS' 3 IAGAZ 1 NE AUD JTASOSIC 3 IIK 310 E . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —After an interval of a year and three quartersa meeting of the Provincial
, Grand Lodge of Jersey has been called and held for the purpose of installing a D . Prov . G . M ., as mentioned in the report already communicated to you . Allow me to quote from the by-laws of the Jersey Provincial Grand Lodge . " 1 . That this Provincial Grand Lodge shall be held
once in every year at the least , at such place as the Prov . G . M . shall be pleased to appoint . " 10 . A preparatory committee , consisting of * * shall meet on the Tuesday previous to the annual meeting of the Provincial Grand Lodge , at which meeting any member of the Provincial Grand Lod
ge desirous of making a motion therein , or of submitting any matter to the consideration of the Provincial Grand Lodge , shall give notice of the same to the Prov . G . Sec . in writinsr . . . . And no motion or
other matter shall be brought under discussion in the Provincial Grand Lodge unless it shall have been previously communicated to the aforesaid committee . " Upon this I remark , first , that the Prov . G . M . has been pleased to break the first by-law ; secondly , that interval
so long an having elapsed , he ought to have called a preparatory committee before the meeting ; but nothing of the kind was done ; therefore he broke the 10 th law . The inference to he drawn is , that Prov . G . M . ' s are above the laws , which are made only to keep inferior Masons in order .
One great cause of dissatisfaction among the members of the province at the neglect to hold a meeting . of the Prov . Grand Lodge at the regular period , arises from the fact , that the fees payable by Prov . G . Officers on their appointment , which are unusually heavy in Jersey , have not been collected for one year ,
as there were no fresh elections , and thus the sum of £ 19 19 s . has been lost to the Provincial Grand Lodge funds , which it appears are far from being in a flourishing condition . After the installation , I rose for the purpose of proposing two resolutions , complimentary to the retiring and incoming deputies , for Avhich this appeared the most fitting and graceful time , conceiving that the Prov- G . M ., having broken two laws , would
Correspondence.
permit my propositions as quite m accordance with , and indeed a part of , the business of the day . I suppose he smelt a rat , at least so ifc has been suggested to me , and though other brethren brought forward precedents for the course I desired to adopt , my request was peremptorily refused . Under all circumstances it was natural that he should be suspicious
, dreading opposition , fearful lest " unpleasing truths here mortify the vain , " but ifc was not right , as it appears to me , so to use his position as to treat a number of gentlemen like mere puppets pulled hy the string of a Punch and Judy showman ; nor wjukl some of us have submitted so peaceablybut that
, there Avere several reasons for wishing on that occasion to be perfectly courteous , and to afford not the shadow of ground for complaint . I am informed that the Prov . G . M . afterwards " thanked God that the affair was over , and that , contrary to expectation , the meeting had passed off quietly without his having
been bullied ; thus rendering it one of the happiest days of his life . " Does not this look like a consciousness of deserving such treatment ? I shall he glad to have the opinions of others on the course
pursued at the meeting , though none but those who are conversant with all the circumstances can fully estimate the case . The question naturally suggests itself , whether a man so situated is fit for Prov . G . M . Two attempts have already been made to displace him , with matters
connected with one of Avhieh your readers are partially acquainted , and are therefore aAvare of the difficulties to be encountered . Please God , hoAvever , we ivill make another , even though but three can be found to join in it , unless we are previously gagged by the execution of a threatened suspensionthe object of
, which will he evident , for an alleged , but disputed , trivial breach ol Masonic law , or rather etiquette , which in the view of some appears to be more heinous than offences against the moral Jaws of truth , honour , chastity , & e . Any delay thus caused can be but temporaryand if we ultimatelfailthe Masonic
, y , world will see the effect of regulations in the Book of Constitutions which make Prov . G . M . ' s de facto , irresponsible . Whether the authorities in London can be incited to adopt a remedy is another matter , and if the present state of things is upheld , we may with reason exclaim with Dogberry iu the play ,
" Fore God , they are botb in a tale . " Tours fraternally , P . M Jersey , April 17 th . 1866 .
Popery And Freemasonry.
POPERY AND FREEMASONRY .
TO TIIE EDITOtt OE THE EEEEMASOSS' MAGAZINE AKD MASONIC HISHOK . DEAR SIR AUD BROTHER , —Every true Mason owes you a tribute of gratitude for having exhumed from that oblivion into which they had sunk for many years , those monita seereta that will ever form a lasting monument erected to its own infamy by the
most mischievous aggregation of men that ever disturbed the peace of the world . But will you allow me to submit a few observation with reference to the mode in ivhich you treat the subject . Ton seem to identify the head of the Soman Catholic Church with Jesuitism , and thus establish a joint responsibility between the Pope and the Jesuits' General ; all the