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Masonrt In Jersey.

and your readers have heard only of the charges brought against us . Your correspondent even insisted on these charges . Not content with the modest post of reporter , ho assumed the character of public accuser , and coloured the documents he pretended to sum up , adding to them sentences of his own , as the following , which is as contrary

to charity as to justice : — " Fourteen brethren who , being Masons , and attached to lodges under the English Constitution , had taken part in these proceedings , were declared to be IRREGULAR , a violation ( especially in the case of Past Masters ) of Masonic obligations , a breach of the laws for the conduct of English Masonry , and an encroachment on the right -and authority of the Grand

Master , and ofthe Grand Lodge of England . " Your correspondent did more . He sent you a document emanating from tbe Prov . G . M ., in which a certain part of the defence of Bro . Baudains is quoted , and commented on in terms I will not describe here ; and did not forward you , at the same time , the whole of Bro . Baudaiu ' s memorialwhich washoweverrequisite to enable

, , , your readers to hear both sides . This course is not fraternal ; it is not fair play ; especially if we consider that many of your readers will be our judges in the approaching meeting of the Grand Lodge . I feel certain , dear sir and brother , that your sense of justice and of brotherly benevolence , will lead you to

redress , as far as possible , the wrong which your correspondent has done us , and to publish the present answer in your number of the 28 th inst ., which will appear a few days before tho meeting of the said Grand Loelge . In order not to trespass on your space , I will abstain from entering into the particulars of the case , and present only a kind of summing up of our principal arguments .

1 st . There is no provision in the Book of Constitutions forbidding English brothers to belong , at the same time , to different regular and accepted rites . Now , the Supreme Council of the Scotch Rite in Prance is a regular and accepted Masonic authority ; they thought they had a right to give a warrant to some Jersey and French brothers , enabling them to form a new Scotch

lodge here ; this warrant is in due form . Therefore the brothers who founded that lodge , and those who have joined them , had a right to do so ; and if they were before regular Masons , having been initiated in regular English lodges , they are still so now , as they have not forfeited their primitive title to participate in Masonic workswhichalthough conducted under a different rite

, , , are , nevertheless , quite as regular as any Masonic work accomplished under the English Bite . Therefore it is a gratuitous affront to our Masonic character to describe us as irregular , aud this affront will be resented by Pagt Masters as well as by simple brothers . 2 nd . It is at variance with all Masonic principles to

call irregular a lodge holding a warrant from such , a respectable and universally-acknowledged Bite as the Scotch Kite in Prance . If the Supreme Council of that Bite was wrong in giving to our Jersey friends such a warrant , the Grand Lodge of England must obtain of them the withdrawal of that warrant ; but , as long as my friends possess that regular warrant from an accepted

Masonic authority , they form a regular lodge—they belong to a powerful and numerous Masonic body , represented in many countries , and as such they must be respected . 3 rd . The Supreme Council was not wrong in giving that warrant to the founders of the new lodges , as there is in Jersey no lodbelonging to the Scotch Rite under

ge the Grand Lodgo of Edinburgh , and Jersey is nob at all in the same political condition as " any county of England . " Jersey is not represented in the Parliament ; this island has its own States , the only legislative body which enacts laws binding it , under her Majesty ' s sanction in Privy Council . Jersey has its own Courts of Justice ;

Masonrt In Jersey.

it is considered by Acts of Parliament as a foreign port , and as such has not been mentioned in the i * ecent treaty of commerce with Prance . There is in this island a Prcnch population of no less than ten thousand inhabitants—a sixth of tho whole population . The port of St . Helier is visited by Masons of all nations . It was but just to enable these Prench Masons to work in their

own language and under their own Rite , and the special political situation of Jersey rendered this the easier . 4 th . Jerseymnn have always defended their privileges with great energy , as petitions , signed by thousands , have shown every time any attempt has been made to deprive them of their independence . They are sincerely attached to their Sovereign , but , in order to show their

loyalty the better , they wish to be left in full possession of their independence . 5 th . Tho Queen , ten years ago , had sent here three orders of the Privy Council which dispossessed Jersey of its rights ; but when she saw the consternation of the inhabitants , she withdrew these orders . May the Grand Lodge share in the generous feelings of the Sovereign

, and acknowledge the existence of the new lodge , founded on the privileges of Jersey , 6 th . These questions , arising from the pretensions of the different Grand Lodges , could not be sett-led by such severe measures as the suspension oojet of this letter . The only means to solve them satisfactorily would be by convening a meeting of Masonic Amphyctrions . Till the

moment when such a meeting takes place , tolerance and fraternity should be the watchword of Masonic Rites and authorities . Believe me , dear Sir and Brother , sincerely yours , A . DESMOULINS . November 2-lst , 1863 .

Professor Donaldson On The Position Of Architecture.

PROFESSOR DONALDSON ON THE POSITION OF ARCHITECTURE .

{ From the Builder . —Concluded from page 396 . ) Passing to the subject of the nature and . quality of our professional publications , I think it must be acknowledged , that the architectural illustrated works of late years , with the exception of Mr . CockerelPs last volume , and some other works , have not maintained . the high standard which was generallprevalent some .

y years ago Where it is the intention of the author to publish transcripts of his own sketches , and not seriously and elaborately worked out drawings , lithography is undoubtedly the best imitation of the crisp , sparkling , and offhand pencilling of the artist . But wherever the graver is used , it should be with the delicacy , refinement , and finish which distinguish Stuart ' s " Athens , " the volumes

ofthe Dilettanti Society . or the works of Britton , Pngin , Blore , and such standard authorities . The loose , scratchy , and guesswork execution of some productions does not worthily represent the art . The Prench , on the contrary , and the Germans , execute their engravings more elaborately and carefully , aud with a higher finish . At this time there are two works publishing

by lions . Daly , at Paris ; and there is one in London , professing to give practical examples of constructive architecture , and they allow of a compai-ison on this subject . The English work is a compilation of examples without selection . Details are given of cornices , mouldings , and other details , possessing no special beauty or grace , and taken apparently from the ordinary volume

of Gibbs , of the last century . They are drawn to an enormous scale , as though the editor did not care to take the trouble to reduce them to a manageable size , and many of them repulsive from their vulgarity . There may be an excess in point of scale , and parts drawn to the size of execution often unnecessarily encumber such a work , and render it ponderous . In fact , the reader had better be referred at once to the original work from

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MASONRT IN JERSEY. Article 1
PROFESSOR DONALDSON ON THE POSITION OF ARCHITECTURE. Article 2
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 5
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 6
LODGE OF HARMONY (No. 600). Article 7
THE ROYAL ARCH. Article 8
CAN A WARDEN INITIATE ? Article 8
Untitled Article 8
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 8
METROPOLITAN. Article 9
PROVINCIAL. Article 11
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonrt In Jersey.

and your readers have heard only of the charges brought against us . Your correspondent even insisted on these charges . Not content with the modest post of reporter , ho assumed the character of public accuser , and coloured the documents he pretended to sum up , adding to them sentences of his own , as the following , which is as contrary

to charity as to justice : — " Fourteen brethren who , being Masons , and attached to lodges under the English Constitution , had taken part in these proceedings , were declared to be IRREGULAR , a violation ( especially in the case of Past Masters ) of Masonic obligations , a breach of the laws for the conduct of English Masonry , and an encroachment on the right -and authority of the Grand

Master , and ofthe Grand Lodge of England . " Your correspondent did more . He sent you a document emanating from tbe Prov . G . M ., in which a certain part of the defence of Bro . Baudains is quoted , and commented on in terms I will not describe here ; and did not forward you , at the same time , the whole of Bro . Baudaiu ' s memorialwhich washoweverrequisite to enable

, , , your readers to hear both sides . This course is not fraternal ; it is not fair play ; especially if we consider that many of your readers will be our judges in the approaching meeting of the Grand Lodge . I feel certain , dear sir and brother , that your sense of justice and of brotherly benevolence , will lead you to

redress , as far as possible , the wrong which your correspondent has done us , and to publish the present answer in your number of the 28 th inst ., which will appear a few days before tho meeting of the said Grand Loelge . In order not to trespass on your space , I will abstain from entering into the particulars of the case , and present only a kind of summing up of our principal arguments .

1 st . There is no provision in the Book of Constitutions forbidding English brothers to belong , at the same time , to different regular and accepted rites . Now , the Supreme Council of the Scotch Rite in Prance is a regular and accepted Masonic authority ; they thought they had a right to give a warrant to some Jersey and French brothers , enabling them to form a new Scotch

lodge here ; this warrant is in due form . Therefore the brothers who founded that lodge , and those who have joined them , had a right to do so ; and if they were before regular Masons , having been initiated in regular English lodges , they are still so now , as they have not forfeited their primitive title to participate in Masonic workswhichalthough conducted under a different rite

, , , are , nevertheless , quite as regular as any Masonic work accomplished under the English Bite . Therefore it is a gratuitous affront to our Masonic character to describe us as irregular , aud this affront will be resented by Pagt Masters as well as by simple brothers . 2 nd . It is at variance with all Masonic principles to

call irregular a lodge holding a warrant from such , a respectable and universally-acknowledged Bite as the Scotch Kite in Prance . If the Supreme Council of that Bite was wrong in giving to our Jersey friends such a warrant , the Grand Lodge of England must obtain of them the withdrawal of that warrant ; but , as long as my friends possess that regular warrant from an accepted

Masonic authority , they form a regular lodge—they belong to a powerful and numerous Masonic body , represented in many countries , and as such they must be respected . 3 rd . The Supreme Council was not wrong in giving that warrant to the founders of the new lodges , as there is in Jersey no lodbelonging to the Scotch Rite under

ge the Grand Lodgo of Edinburgh , and Jersey is nob at all in the same political condition as " any county of England . " Jersey is not represented in the Parliament ; this island has its own States , the only legislative body which enacts laws binding it , under her Majesty ' s sanction in Privy Council . Jersey has its own Courts of Justice ;

Masonrt In Jersey.

it is considered by Acts of Parliament as a foreign port , and as such has not been mentioned in the i * ecent treaty of commerce with Prance . There is in this island a Prcnch population of no less than ten thousand inhabitants—a sixth of tho whole population . The port of St . Helier is visited by Masons of all nations . It was but just to enable these Prench Masons to work in their

own language and under their own Rite , and the special political situation of Jersey rendered this the easier . 4 th . Jerseymnn have always defended their privileges with great energy , as petitions , signed by thousands , have shown every time any attempt has been made to deprive them of their independence . They are sincerely attached to their Sovereign , but , in order to show their

loyalty the better , they wish to be left in full possession of their independence . 5 th . Tho Queen , ten years ago , had sent here three orders of the Privy Council which dispossessed Jersey of its rights ; but when she saw the consternation of the inhabitants , she withdrew these orders . May the Grand Lodge share in the generous feelings of the Sovereign

, and acknowledge the existence of the new lodge , founded on the privileges of Jersey , 6 th . These questions , arising from the pretensions of the different Grand Lodges , could not be sett-led by such severe measures as the suspension oojet of this letter . The only means to solve them satisfactorily would be by convening a meeting of Masonic Amphyctrions . Till the

moment when such a meeting takes place , tolerance and fraternity should be the watchword of Masonic Rites and authorities . Believe me , dear Sir and Brother , sincerely yours , A . DESMOULINS . November 2-lst , 1863 .

Professor Donaldson On The Position Of Architecture.

PROFESSOR DONALDSON ON THE POSITION OF ARCHITECTURE .

{ From the Builder . —Concluded from page 396 . ) Passing to the subject of the nature and . quality of our professional publications , I think it must be acknowledged , that the architectural illustrated works of late years , with the exception of Mr . CockerelPs last volume , and some other works , have not maintained . the high standard which was generallprevalent some .

y years ago Where it is the intention of the author to publish transcripts of his own sketches , and not seriously and elaborately worked out drawings , lithography is undoubtedly the best imitation of the crisp , sparkling , and offhand pencilling of the artist . But wherever the graver is used , it should be with the delicacy , refinement , and finish which distinguish Stuart ' s " Athens , " the volumes

ofthe Dilettanti Society . or the works of Britton , Pngin , Blore , and such standard authorities . The loose , scratchy , and guesswork execution of some productions does not worthily represent the art . The Prench , on the contrary , and the Germans , execute their engravings more elaborately and carefully , aud with a higher finish . At this time there are two works publishing

by lions . Daly , at Paris ; and there is one in London , professing to give practical examples of constructive architecture , and they allow of a compai-ison on this subject . The English work is a compilation of examples without selection . Details are given of cornices , mouldings , and other details , possessing no special beauty or grace , and taken apparently from the ordinary volume

of Gibbs , of the last century . They are drawn to an enormous scale , as though the editor did not care to take the trouble to reduce them to a manageable size , and many of them repulsive from their vulgarity . There may be an excess in point of scale , and parts drawn to the size of execution often unnecessarily encumber such a work , and render it ponderous . In fact , the reader had better be referred at once to the original work from

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