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Mother Kilwinning.

thern for themselves and remanent members of our said lodge , not only to put these statutes and acts to due execution , but also to make such other acts and statutes as we and our society and successors should think fit in all time thereafter , as the minutes and deliverance thereanent , dated the 15 th of May , 1729 , extant also beai \

" And now for the honour and interest of our lodge , it being necessary that we should have ane extract of our ancient and original constitution as being a branch of our said mother lodge of Kilwinning , and also a confirmation thereof in most ample form . " May it therefore please the Right Worshipful Masters the Worshipfull Wardens and other members of our

Mother Lodge of Kilwinning , to consider the premises and thereupon to cause search your records and to engross aue extract of our ancient and original erection and constitution , and to confirm , ratify , and approve of the same iu the whole heads , privileges and clauses thereof , and to declare our said Lodge of Torphichen to be one of the ancient branches of your said Lodof Kilwinning

ge , as you have been in use to do to other lawfull lodges in the like cases . And your petitioners shall ever pray . " WAL . SANDILANDS , Master of the Torphicheu Kilwinning . "

Accompanying the above was a private letter addressed by the Hon . Mr . Sandilands to the Worshipful tbe Master of Mother Kilwinning , and couched in the following terms : — " Right Worshipful Broy " You have a petition from our lodgewhich I beg the

, favour you'l lay before our Mother Lodge wt your first conveniency . You know the Grand Quarterly Communication holds upon the therteenth of aprilo nixt , at which time the precedency of the different lodges is to be determined , and therefor as we have the honour to be a verry old branch of your lodge , & are anxious to have the date of our antient constitution ascertain'dI in the

, name of our brethren of this lodge , beg that in case you shall be straitened in time , so as it may be inconvenient to have our charter regularly exped betwixt and the next meeting , that , if our old constitution is found upon your record , as doubtless it will , you'l please remit us a certificate of the date thereof , as appears from the records under the hands of the proper officers of our most ancient

& honourable lodge , which will be a good document to produce in order to our being ranked , & our charter maybe taken out at more leisure . Your good friend , George Eraser , the Right Worshipful of the Cannongate-Kilwinning , & severalls of our brethren , are at present drinking your health . If you'l please favour me w' a return , direct it to our v razerwho will take of itif

Broy __ , care , I should chance to be out of town . —I am , w great esteem , " R . W . Broy , yours most sincerely , "WALK . SANDILANDS . "Edinbr ., 19 March , 1737 . "

Thefollowing extract from the records of the Mother Lodge will show bow these communications from the Torphichen brethren were disposed of , but beyond this no further notice of the subject appears in the minute book , —although an old roll of the " Lodges constitute by authority of the Ancient Mother Lodge of

Kilwinning , " p laces " Torphichan-Kilwinning" as having been erected in 1729 : — .... There was also [ March 30 , 1737 ] presented by the Master and read , a letter from the Master of Torpichan-Kihvinning , and a petition desiring a corroboration , of their former ancient charter from this lodge , which was also recommended to the said committee to answer as expressed . "

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

CLOTHING IN HIAXCE . The " Wife of a Past Master of an East Kent lodge , " ' not , as she writes , out of vain curiosity , but with a sincere desire of increasing her stock of useful knowledge ( which is of course most praiseworthy ) , makes sundry enquiries respecting the cost of a Sister's Masonic clothing in France . Sister's Apron , 30 francs ; ditto ,

embroidered scarf , 20 francs ; ditto garters , 7 francs ; and the price of a sister's silver trowel , with ebony handle , is 10 francs . And this , I assure my fair correspondent , is all the information , on this important matter ,., which it is in my power to communicate . —CHAELUS PUETON COOPEK . GOEIHE ON MASONRY .

AS it may not generally be known that Goethe was a . brother , I send you a translation of his verses , called "TEE LODGE . " The Mason ' s v .-ciys are A type of existence , And his persistence Is , as tiie clays are Of men in this world .

'' The future hides in it , Good hap or sorrow ; "We press still through it , I \ iuight , that abides in it Daunting us , onward . " And silent hefore us ,

Veiled the dark portal , Goal of all mortal ; Stars silent rest over us , Graves , under us , silent . " But heard are the voices , Voice of the sages ,

Of tho world's and the ages , ' Choose well , your choice is--Brief , hut yet endless . ' " Here eyes do regard you , In eternity ' s stillness , Here is all fulness , Ye hrave , to reward you , Work and despair not . "—Ex . Ex .

TEE MARKS 01 ? MARK MASONS . "Tesseno" thanks " R . B . X . "for his homily . "Tes ~ sers 3 " has as extensive a collection of marks ashe requires .. " Tessera , " always makes a point of asking for information from the proper quarter , and when he cannot obtain it there , applies to the next best fountain , his brethren at large . ''Tesseree" asked a question to which "R . E . X . "

replies , that some anonymous brother " is engaged in determining the mode of translating such marks . " This ,, then , like many other fond illusions in Mark Masonry , will be merely the conjecture of an invisible Mark Mason , and carry no weight with it even if backed by the laborious explanation of a cathedral professor . "Tessera ?" repeats his question , which " R . E . X . " evidently does not

comprehend : — " Wanted to know , from trustworthy sources , if a Freemason ' s mark should have an odd , even , or any number of points , and why ?—TESSER / E . " FINCH ' S MASONIC PLATES . I have an Explanation of the Masonic Plates , but whereare they?—T . T . —[ They ought to be bound up with Finch ' s Masonic Treatise . ]

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MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD. Article 1
MOTHER KILWINNING. Article 2
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 6
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 8
GRAND LODGE. Article 8
THE FREEMASONS' SCHOOLS. Article 10
METROPOLITAN. Article 11
PROVINCIAL. Article 12
AUSTRALIA. Article 13
WESTERN INDIA. Article 14
INDIA. Article 17
ROYAL ARCH. Article 18
MARK MASONRY. Article 18
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 18
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Mother Kilwinning.

thern for themselves and remanent members of our said lodge , not only to put these statutes and acts to due execution , but also to make such other acts and statutes as we and our society and successors should think fit in all time thereafter , as the minutes and deliverance thereanent , dated the 15 th of May , 1729 , extant also beai \

" And now for the honour and interest of our lodge , it being necessary that we should have ane extract of our ancient and original constitution as being a branch of our said mother lodge of Kilwinning , and also a confirmation thereof in most ample form . " May it therefore please the Right Worshipful Masters the Worshipfull Wardens and other members of our

Mother Lodge of Kilwinning , to consider the premises and thereupon to cause search your records and to engross aue extract of our ancient and original erection and constitution , and to confirm , ratify , and approve of the same iu the whole heads , privileges and clauses thereof , and to declare our said Lodge of Torphichen to be one of the ancient branches of your said Lodof Kilwinning

ge , as you have been in use to do to other lawfull lodges in the like cases . And your petitioners shall ever pray . " WAL . SANDILANDS , Master of the Torphicheu Kilwinning . "

Accompanying the above was a private letter addressed by the Hon . Mr . Sandilands to the Worshipful tbe Master of Mother Kilwinning , and couched in the following terms : — " Right Worshipful Broy " You have a petition from our lodgewhich I beg the

, favour you'l lay before our Mother Lodge wt your first conveniency . You know the Grand Quarterly Communication holds upon the therteenth of aprilo nixt , at which time the precedency of the different lodges is to be determined , and therefor as we have the honour to be a verry old branch of your lodge , & are anxious to have the date of our antient constitution ascertain'dI in the

, name of our brethren of this lodge , beg that in case you shall be straitened in time , so as it may be inconvenient to have our charter regularly exped betwixt and the next meeting , that , if our old constitution is found upon your record , as doubtless it will , you'l please remit us a certificate of the date thereof , as appears from the records under the hands of the proper officers of our most ancient

& honourable lodge , which will be a good document to produce in order to our being ranked , & our charter maybe taken out at more leisure . Your good friend , George Eraser , the Right Worshipful of the Cannongate-Kilwinning , & severalls of our brethren , are at present drinking your health . If you'l please favour me w' a return , direct it to our v razerwho will take of itif

Broy __ , care , I should chance to be out of town . —I am , w great esteem , " R . W . Broy , yours most sincerely , "WALK . SANDILANDS . "Edinbr ., 19 March , 1737 . "

Thefollowing extract from the records of the Mother Lodge will show bow these communications from the Torphichen brethren were disposed of , but beyond this no further notice of the subject appears in the minute book , —although an old roll of the " Lodges constitute by authority of the Ancient Mother Lodge of

Kilwinning , " p laces " Torphichan-Kilwinning" as having been erected in 1729 : — .... There was also [ March 30 , 1737 ] presented by the Master and read , a letter from the Master of Torpichan-Kihvinning , and a petition desiring a corroboration , of their former ancient charter from this lodge , which was also recommended to the said committee to answer as expressed . "

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

CLOTHING IN HIAXCE . The " Wife of a Past Master of an East Kent lodge , " ' not , as she writes , out of vain curiosity , but with a sincere desire of increasing her stock of useful knowledge ( which is of course most praiseworthy ) , makes sundry enquiries respecting the cost of a Sister's Masonic clothing in France . Sister's Apron , 30 francs ; ditto ,

embroidered scarf , 20 francs ; ditto garters , 7 francs ; and the price of a sister's silver trowel , with ebony handle , is 10 francs . And this , I assure my fair correspondent , is all the information , on this important matter ,., which it is in my power to communicate . —CHAELUS PUETON COOPEK . GOEIHE ON MASONRY .

AS it may not generally be known that Goethe was a . brother , I send you a translation of his verses , called "TEE LODGE . " The Mason ' s v .-ciys are A type of existence , And his persistence Is , as tiie clays are Of men in this world .

'' The future hides in it , Good hap or sorrow ; "We press still through it , I \ iuight , that abides in it Daunting us , onward . " And silent hefore us ,

Veiled the dark portal , Goal of all mortal ; Stars silent rest over us , Graves , under us , silent . " But heard are the voices , Voice of the sages ,

Of tho world's and the ages , ' Choose well , your choice is--Brief , hut yet endless . ' " Here eyes do regard you , In eternity ' s stillness , Here is all fulness , Ye hrave , to reward you , Work and despair not . "—Ex . Ex .

TEE MARKS 01 ? MARK MASONS . "Tesseno" thanks " R . B . X . "for his homily . "Tes ~ sers 3 " has as extensive a collection of marks ashe requires .. " Tessera , " always makes a point of asking for information from the proper quarter , and when he cannot obtain it there , applies to the next best fountain , his brethren at large . ''Tesseree" asked a question to which "R . E . X . "

replies , that some anonymous brother " is engaged in determining the mode of translating such marks . " This ,, then , like many other fond illusions in Mark Masonry , will be merely the conjecture of an invisible Mark Mason , and carry no weight with it even if backed by the laborious explanation of a cathedral professor . "Tessera ?" repeats his question , which " R . E . X . " evidently does not

comprehend : — " Wanted to know , from trustworthy sources , if a Freemason ' s mark should have an odd , even , or any number of points , and why ?—TESSER / E . " FINCH ' S MASONIC PLATES . I have an Explanation of the Masonic Plates , but whereare they?—T . T . —[ They ought to be bound up with Finch ' s Masonic Treatise . ]

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