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Is The Pope A Freemason?

have said , " I shall ever be a warm defender of this sublime Order , whose mission it is to moralize the universe , and to relieve and protect suffering humanity . " The Editor of the Monde Maconnique ,

sent with his paper a letter to the grand Master , calling his attention to the article , and asking him to forward to the Monde Maconnique a certified copy of the facts and proceedings of the Lodge initiating M . Ferretti . To this letter the Grand Master

replied November 23 rd , 1868 . In that reply he stated that "from time to time he had heard a report that the Pops was made a Freemason in the United States , but that he had always regarded it as an idle story . "

Since , however , so respectable a Masonic authority had published what purported to be the letter of the Ereeemasons of Messina , and vouched to be authentic , in which such statements were publicly made , an examination

would be instituted by the Grand Secretary of the Grand Lodge of Pennsylvania , Bro . John Thompson . That investigation was made when these facts appeared . There was a Lodge , " Le Temple des Vertus Thelogales , " No . 103 , held in the City of Havannah , under a warrant

from the Grand Lodge of Free and Accepted Masons of Pennsylvania , of 17 th December , 1804 From a list of its members , it appears that on January 15 th , 1815 , Juan Aug . Ferretti was made a Mason , and

that on March 21 st , 1817 , he withdrew from membership . It appears also that there was aLodge , "Las Deliciasdela Havannah , " No . 157 , held also in Havannah , under the Grand Lodge of Pennsylvania , and on

March 27 th , 1818 , J . A . Ferretti joined that Lodge . On November 17 th , 1819 , Martin ferretti was made a Mason in No . 157 . These names are , it appears , copied from the Grand Secretary ' s Begister in the Grand Lodge at Philadelphia . Thus the questions arise , do these

Is The Pope A Freemason?

names refer to the Pope and his brother 1 AVas Juan Aug . the name of the Pope ' s brother ? Is Martin a mistake for Mastai ? We should endeavour to ascertain these factsas otherwise some 'facetious

, Roman will be sure to say that it is all " my eye and Betty Martin . " The " Luce del Terreno " of Palermo has recently repeated this story , and our contemporary , the Freemason , has ,

we believe , referred the matter to our accomplished correspondent , Clifford McCalla , Esq ., EditorofthePMacfc ^ Ma Keystone , and asked him to investigate the whole matter . Until we receive his replywe shall leave the question

, where it is . We have stated simply the facts of the case , as we think the whole subject demands a full and impartial inquiry , and demands a decisive settlement .

An After Dinner Conversation.

AN AFTER DINNER CONVERSATION .

My old friend Jorum and I have long been the fastest of friends , We knew each other at school in ancient clays on St , Catherine ' s Hill ; we knew each other at college ; we lived in the same set ; we played in the same

eleven ; we rowed in the same boat ; and this pleasant friendship of boyhood and youth has been cemented in maturer years , since it does so happen that we have been neighbours in the same county ; habitual associates amid

the genial hours and sterner duties of life . I am still an elderly bachelor , surrounded by my books , and many cherished " Lares and Penates " in an unpretending but not uncomfortable

dwelling . Whereas Jorum , the king of good fellows , the cheeriest of companions , and the warmest of friends , ever " on

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Monthly Masonic Summary. Article 1
Untitled Article 2
THE VOICE OF THE BUILDERS. Article 2
OUR MASONIC MSS. Article 3
MARGARET'S TEST; OR, CHARITY ITS OWN REWARD. Article 5
IS THE POPE A FREEMASON? Article 6
AN AFTER DINNER CONVERSATION. Article 9
HOW MAY I KNOW YOU TO BE A MASON? Article 13
RECORDS OF THE PAST. Article 14
PEARLS AND BLACKBERRIES. Article 16
" SO MOTE IT BE." Article 19
CHARLES DICKENS—A LECTURE. Article 19
LIGHT, BEAUTIFUL LIGHT. Article 25
"ON DISTINCTIONS OF LANGUAGES." Article 26
THE SPIRIT OF FREEMASONRY. Article 27
THE SOLOMONIC ORIGIN OF FREEMASONRY. Article 29
DOWN BY THE SEA. Article 30
COUNSEL TO LIVE MASONICALLY. Article 31
INCINERATION. Article 32
CHIPPINGS. Article 32
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Is The Pope A Freemason?

have said , " I shall ever be a warm defender of this sublime Order , whose mission it is to moralize the universe , and to relieve and protect suffering humanity . " The Editor of the Monde Maconnique ,

sent with his paper a letter to the grand Master , calling his attention to the article , and asking him to forward to the Monde Maconnique a certified copy of the facts and proceedings of the Lodge initiating M . Ferretti . To this letter the Grand Master

replied November 23 rd , 1868 . In that reply he stated that "from time to time he had heard a report that the Pops was made a Freemason in the United States , but that he had always regarded it as an idle story . "

Since , however , so respectable a Masonic authority had published what purported to be the letter of the Ereeemasons of Messina , and vouched to be authentic , in which such statements were publicly made , an examination

would be instituted by the Grand Secretary of the Grand Lodge of Pennsylvania , Bro . John Thompson . That investigation was made when these facts appeared . There was a Lodge , " Le Temple des Vertus Thelogales , " No . 103 , held in the City of Havannah , under a warrant

from the Grand Lodge of Free and Accepted Masons of Pennsylvania , of 17 th December , 1804 From a list of its members , it appears that on January 15 th , 1815 , Juan Aug . Ferretti was made a Mason , and

that on March 21 st , 1817 , he withdrew from membership . It appears also that there was aLodge , "Las Deliciasdela Havannah , " No . 157 , held also in Havannah , under the Grand Lodge of Pennsylvania , and on

March 27 th , 1818 , J . A . Ferretti joined that Lodge . On November 17 th , 1819 , Martin ferretti was made a Mason in No . 157 . These names are , it appears , copied from the Grand Secretary ' s Begister in the Grand Lodge at Philadelphia . Thus the questions arise , do these

Is The Pope A Freemason?

names refer to the Pope and his brother 1 AVas Juan Aug . the name of the Pope ' s brother ? Is Martin a mistake for Mastai ? We should endeavour to ascertain these factsas otherwise some 'facetious

, Roman will be sure to say that it is all " my eye and Betty Martin . " The " Luce del Terreno " of Palermo has recently repeated this story , and our contemporary , the Freemason , has ,

we believe , referred the matter to our accomplished correspondent , Clifford McCalla , Esq ., EditorofthePMacfc ^ Ma Keystone , and asked him to investigate the whole matter . Until we receive his replywe shall leave the question

, where it is . We have stated simply the facts of the case , as we think the whole subject demands a full and impartial inquiry , and demands a decisive settlement .

An After Dinner Conversation.

AN AFTER DINNER CONVERSATION .

My old friend Jorum and I have long been the fastest of friends , We knew each other at school in ancient clays on St , Catherine ' s Hill ; we knew each other at college ; we lived in the same set ; we played in the same

eleven ; we rowed in the same boat ; and this pleasant friendship of boyhood and youth has been cemented in maturer years , since it does so happen that we have been neighbours in the same county ; habitual associates amid

the genial hours and sterner duties of life . I am still an elderly bachelor , surrounded by my books , and many cherished " Lares and Penates " in an unpretending but not uncomfortable

dwelling . Whereas Jorum , the king of good fellows , the cheeriest of companions , and the warmest of friends , ever " on

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