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carried out , that they would throw off all allegiance unless their demands were at once complied with ) than those Lodges which had united ( in October , 1855 ) with their Irish Brethren in the formation of the Grand Lodge of Canada , as they had an undoubted right to do ; suppose I say , for the sake of argument , that , regardless of all considerations and consequences , the Grand Lodge of England should

recognize the new organization—I would ask , what would be the position of the new body ?—for I am convinced , from the opinion expressed upon the subject by the various Grand Lodges in the United States , that none of them could so far depart from established principles as to recognize this new formation . The Grand Lodge of Canada could only regard them as a spurious and clandestine body , who have encroached on their jurisdiction and privileges , and could hold no intercourse with them .

There are now fifty-two Lodges working under Warrants from the Grand Lodge of Canada , and she has upwards of 1 , 500 Masons enrolled on her Register . By the way , should the Grand Lodge of England recognize this so-called Grand Lodge , it is not unreasonable to suppose that all the other Provincial Grand Lodges , of which there are five in this Province ( three holding under England and two under Scotland ) , will at once proceed to declare their independence , relying upon a recognition from the Grand Lodge of England—thus introducing into Canada no less than sixGrand Lodges claiming equal rights and privileges J

Were it not for the deep interest in all matters appertaining to Canadian Masonry evinced in the pages of your periodical , T would not have ventured thus to trespass- upon your time and attention . Requesting an early insertion of the above , I continue fraternally yours , Veritas .

PS : I have just heard that Sir Allan MoN " ab has been elected to the dignity of Grand Master ; by this elevation they have succeeded in inducing that gentleman to resign his collar as a Provincial Grand Master , forgetting for the time the opprobrious epithets they had formerly heaped upon him for past neglect and inefficiency , and believing that his rank will have more weight in England than his merit in securing the new body a recognition from Grand Lodge . The new body has also already introduced a new practice into Masonry—as their Grand Master elect has been installed by Bro . Harington , one of our numerous Provincial Grand Masters . I suppose , hereafter , from this precedent , it will be correct practice for a Senior Warden to instal his Worshipful Master ! V . CxiNADA , 10 th September , 1857 .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS * MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Sir and Brother , —It is generally understood here that a new so-called Grand Lodge has been formed in Toronto , and it may be well for the Craft in England to know how it has been got up , before recognizing it in any way . Of course , I can only speak of the connection of a single Lodge with it , but I should not be at all surprised if other Lodges have been treated in a similar way by ambitious representatives .

A circular from the Prov . Grand Secretary was issued to the various Lodges , calling on them to send a delegate to a meeting of the Prov . Grand Lodge ; and , as a new Grand Lodge was to be established , to send the Warrant with the delegate , and a Dispensation from the new Grand Master would be returned in place of it , The Prov . Grand Secretary also stated that the D . Prov . G . M . took it upon

himself to say that the expenses of the delegate would be paid out of the funds of the Prov . Grand Lodge on this occasion , —thereby showing that the arrangements were all cut and dry . St . George's Lodge , No . 895 , E . R ., passed a resolution sending delegates with positive instructions that the Warrant should not be given up ; but in defiance of this , the P . M . took it upon himself to give it up ; and before the W . M , ( who

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THE CANADAS. Article 1
ON THE UNIVERSALITY OF THE GRAND MASONIC TRIUNITY. Article 3
THE KADIRI ORDER OF EL TASAWUF IN ARABIA. Article 9
TIDINGS FROM THE CRAFT IN THE UNITED STATES Article 12
LONDON AND MIDDLESEX ARCHEOLOGICAL SOCIETY. Article 14
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 19
MASONIC INCIDENT. Article 22
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 23
METROPOLITAN Article 26
PROVINCIAL Article 34
ROYAL ARCH. Article 69
THE ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 72
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR Article 73
MARK MASONRY. Article 73
SCOTLAND. Article 77
IRELAND Article 80
COLONIAL. Article 80
INDIA. Article 81
WEST INDIES Article 82
SUMMARY OE NEWS FOR OCTOBER Article 85
NOTICE. Article 91
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Goeiebpokbenge.

carried out , that they would throw off all allegiance unless their demands were at once complied with ) than those Lodges which had united ( in October , 1855 ) with their Irish Brethren in the formation of the Grand Lodge of Canada , as they had an undoubted right to do ; suppose I say , for the sake of argument , that , regardless of all considerations and consequences , the Grand Lodge of England should

recognize the new organization—I would ask , what would be the position of the new body ?—for I am convinced , from the opinion expressed upon the subject by the various Grand Lodges in the United States , that none of them could so far depart from established principles as to recognize this new formation . The Grand Lodge of Canada could only regard them as a spurious and clandestine body , who have encroached on their jurisdiction and privileges , and could hold no intercourse with them .

There are now fifty-two Lodges working under Warrants from the Grand Lodge of Canada , and she has upwards of 1 , 500 Masons enrolled on her Register . By the way , should the Grand Lodge of England recognize this so-called Grand Lodge , it is not unreasonable to suppose that all the other Provincial Grand Lodges , of which there are five in this Province ( three holding under England and two under Scotland ) , will at once proceed to declare their independence , relying upon a recognition from the Grand Lodge of England—thus introducing into Canada no less than sixGrand Lodges claiming equal rights and privileges J

Were it not for the deep interest in all matters appertaining to Canadian Masonry evinced in the pages of your periodical , T would not have ventured thus to trespass- upon your time and attention . Requesting an early insertion of the above , I continue fraternally yours , Veritas .

PS : I have just heard that Sir Allan MoN " ab has been elected to the dignity of Grand Master ; by this elevation they have succeeded in inducing that gentleman to resign his collar as a Provincial Grand Master , forgetting for the time the opprobrious epithets they had formerly heaped upon him for past neglect and inefficiency , and believing that his rank will have more weight in England than his merit in securing the new body a recognition from Grand Lodge . The new body has also already introduced a new practice into Masonry—as their Grand Master elect has been installed by Bro . Harington , one of our numerous Provincial Grand Masters . I suppose , hereafter , from this precedent , it will be correct practice for a Senior Warden to instal his Worshipful Master ! V . CxiNADA , 10 th September , 1857 .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS * MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Sir and Brother , —It is generally understood here that a new so-called Grand Lodge has been formed in Toronto , and it may be well for the Craft in England to know how it has been got up , before recognizing it in any way . Of course , I can only speak of the connection of a single Lodge with it , but I should not be at all surprised if other Lodges have been treated in a similar way by ambitious representatives .

A circular from the Prov . Grand Secretary was issued to the various Lodges , calling on them to send a delegate to a meeting of the Prov . Grand Lodge ; and , as a new Grand Lodge was to be established , to send the Warrant with the delegate , and a Dispensation from the new Grand Master would be returned in place of it , The Prov . Grand Secretary also stated that the D . Prov . G . M . took it upon

himself to say that the expenses of the delegate would be paid out of the funds of the Prov . Grand Lodge on this occasion , —thereby showing that the arrangements were all cut and dry . St . George's Lodge , No . 895 , E . R ., passed a resolution sending delegates with positive instructions that the Warrant should not be given up ; but in defiance of this , the P . M . took it upon himself to give it up ; and before the W . M , ( who

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