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a special body should be entrusted with the consideration of it . He questioned , too , the advisability of taking the designs from the Craft only , and not throwing the competition open to architects generally . Why , for instance ., should they exclude men like Scott and Butterworth from the competition , and so cut themselves off from getting the best design the profession could supply them . Indeed , he doubted if any architect of standing would submit plans to be decided upon
by a body of men inexperieneed m architectural matters as the members of the Board of General Purposes were . He , therefore , thought the suggestion of Bro-Whitmore a very proper and wise one . With regard to what had fallen from Bro . Havers , in reference to a Masonic party in Grand Lodge , he would tell him that if he wished to establish one , and make it compact , united , and strong , he could not do better than continue to display his hostility to him and the Brethren who generally acted with him . ( Hear , hear . ) He had already , by his impertinences , driven one noble Lord from the room that night .
The M . W . Grand Master called Bro . Portal to order . He did not think his observations Masonic . Bro . Portal would willingly retract any observation that Was not Masonic , but when the Earl of Carnarvon was leaving the room he told him ( Bro . Bprtal ) that he would not remain to be subject to such insolence . If there was a party in Grand Lodge , Bro . Havers was certainly not going the right way to disband and dissipate it .
Bro . Savage doubted the propriety of referring the question to so large a bodjr as the Board of General Purposes . All power was iu the hands of Grand Lodge , and he thought they might very well select three or four competent Brethren to decide the matter . Bro . Whitmore said he had now a list of six members ready who should , he proposed , be associated with ail equal number of Brethren selected from the Board of General Purposes , and so form a special committee for the consideration of the : matter .
The M . W . Grand Master , suggested that it would be better if the Board of General Purposes were to appoint a sub-committee , who might call in the assistance of other members of Grand Lodge . Bro . Wyndham Portal , J . G . W ., thought all difficulty would be got rid of if , in accordance with the Book of Constitutions , the Board of General Purposes were themselves to recommend to Grand Lodge the appointment of a special board .
Bro . J . Hervey thought the proposal of Bro . Whitmore anything but complimentary to the Board of General Purposes . The Board would , of course , in a matter of this kind , appoint a sub-committee , and as there were two architects of great experience on the board , they no doubt would be members of the committee , and in their hands the matter would be safo > The board had no indisposition to
have other Brethren associated with them for the determination of a question like the present , hut he must say that he regarded the proposal of Bro . Whitmore as a motion of want of confidence in the Board of General Purposes . Bro . Barrett denied that either of the Brethren alluded to by the last speaker was an architect .
Bro . Whitmore quoted the formation of the Colonial Board as a precedent for his proposal . Bro . Havers had that morning seen Bro . Hardwicke , who was on a sick bed , and he had told him that lie would at all times be most happy to give the ^ Board his advice and assistance , and that they might command his services . He believed that the other Brethren , who were on Bro . Whitmore ' s list , would be ready to do the same thing . The Board of General Purposes was still deserving of the
confidence of Grand Lodge , and until they forfeited that confidence , a subject like the present should not he taken out of their hands . With regard to the charge that he wished to create a party in Grand Lodge , so far from that being the cause , no one , as Bro . Portal himself knew , had laboured harder to avoid it . He denied that he had that evening at all referred to Lord Carnarvon , and . he had made that statement in his lordship ' s presence , and it was one which ought to be enough between one gentleman and another . With regard to Bro . Portal himself , he had entertained the highest respect for him , and when on the Board of General
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a special body should be entrusted with the consideration of it . He questioned , too , the advisability of taking the designs from the Craft only , and not throwing the competition open to architects generally . Why , for instance ., should they exclude men like Scott and Butterworth from the competition , and so cut themselves off from getting the best design the profession could supply them . Indeed , he doubted if any architect of standing would submit plans to be decided upon
by a body of men inexperieneed m architectural matters as the members of the Board of General Purposes were . He , therefore , thought the suggestion of Bro-Whitmore a very proper and wise one . With regard to what had fallen from Bro . Havers , in reference to a Masonic party in Grand Lodge , he would tell him that if he wished to establish one , and make it compact , united , and strong , he could not do better than continue to display his hostility to him and the Brethren who generally acted with him . ( Hear , hear . ) He had already , by his impertinences , driven one noble Lord from the room that night .
The M . W . Grand Master called Bro . Portal to order . He did not think his observations Masonic . Bro . Portal would willingly retract any observation that Was not Masonic , but when the Earl of Carnarvon was leaving the room he told him ( Bro . Bprtal ) that he would not remain to be subject to such insolence . If there was a party in Grand Lodge , Bro . Havers was certainly not going the right way to disband and dissipate it .
Bro . Savage doubted the propriety of referring the question to so large a bodjr as the Board of General Purposes . All power was iu the hands of Grand Lodge , and he thought they might very well select three or four competent Brethren to decide the matter . Bro . Whitmore said he had now a list of six members ready who should , he proposed , be associated with ail equal number of Brethren selected from the Board of General Purposes , and so form a special committee for the consideration of the : matter .
The M . W . Grand Master , suggested that it would be better if the Board of General Purposes were to appoint a sub-committee , who might call in the assistance of other members of Grand Lodge . Bro . Wyndham Portal , J . G . W ., thought all difficulty would be got rid of if , in accordance with the Book of Constitutions , the Board of General Purposes were themselves to recommend to Grand Lodge the appointment of a special board .
Bro . J . Hervey thought the proposal of Bro . Whitmore anything but complimentary to the Board of General Purposes . The Board would , of course , in a matter of this kind , appoint a sub-committee , and as there were two architects of great experience on the board , they no doubt would be members of the committee , and in their hands the matter would be safo > The board had no indisposition to
have other Brethren associated with them for the determination of a question like the present , hut he must say that he regarded the proposal of Bro . Whitmore as a motion of want of confidence in the Board of General Purposes . Bro . Barrett denied that either of the Brethren alluded to by the last speaker was an architect .
Bro . Whitmore quoted the formation of the Colonial Board as a precedent for his proposal . Bro . Havers had that morning seen Bro . Hardwicke , who was on a sick bed , and he had told him that lie would at all times be most happy to give the ^ Board his advice and assistance , and that they might command his services . He believed that the other Brethren , who were on Bro . Whitmore ' s list , would be ready to do the same thing . The Board of General Purposes was still deserving of the
confidence of Grand Lodge , and until they forfeited that confidence , a subject like the present should not he taken out of their hands . With regard to the charge that he wished to create a party in Grand Lodge , so far from that being the cause , no one , as Bro . Portal himself knew , had laboured harder to avoid it . He denied that he had that evening at all referred to Lord Carnarvon , and . he had made that statement in his lordship ' s presence , and it was one which ought to be enough between one gentleman and another . With regard to Bro . Portal himself , he had entertained the highest respect for him , and when on the Board of General