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The Grand Lodge And " The Freemasons' Magazine."

his intention to place another nobleman in nomination for the office of Grand Master in opposition to the Earl of Zetland , well knoAving it Avas only a protest against the then government , as also against a noble brother Avhich another section

of Grand Lodge Avished to set up for Grand Master . A change of the executive shortly afterwards took place , since which period , though occasionally disagreeing with the policy pursued , we deny that any brethren have given the Grand

Master and his advisers a more loyal and independent support than have the conductors of THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE . Of late , however , Ave fancy we have seen indications of old influences again tightening around the Grand Master , and we shall

not hesitate to speak freely upon all points in which either the privileges of the Grand Master are interfered Avith , or the independence of Grand Lodge menaced or attempted to be controlled , whilst Ave Avell know kow to maintain the even

tenour of our Avay , regardless of all threats or " warnmsys" Avhich Ave had thought were UOAV confined to the other side of the channel .

The Grand Lodge Property.

THE GRAND LODGE PROPERTY .

The AA hole question regarding the future arrangement of the Gi * ancl Lodge property is IIOAV likely to be brought under the consideration of Grand Lodge , the M . W . Grand Master having consented to call a special Grand Lodge on or about the

16 th of July , Avhen not only the report and plans of the Board of General Purposes , but all other plans and estimates ivhich may be deposited at the Grand Secretary's office before the end of June , are to be taken into consideration , ' and ,

Ave hope , ultimately lead to the adoption of a scheme generally acceptable to the brethren , and not too costly . That that conclusion can be quickly arrived at Ave have no hope , especially if the laAvyers are to be alloAved , to disport themselves as they

did on Wednesday evening , when something like tAvo hours Avere Avasted fighting * AA ith shadoAvs , and shoAving the difference betAveen tAveedledum and tAveedledee ; and that , too , on a motion which everybody Avho had read the Booh of Constitutions

kneAV could not be put to Grand Lodge * . We have long been of opinion , and often expressed it , that the best tribunal to carry , out any scheme for the re-arrangement of the Grand Lodge property would be an independent Committee of

The Grand Lodge Property.

Grand Lodge , and not a fluctuating body like the Board of General Purposes ; but Ave have never been blind to the fact that , to enable Grand Lodge to appoint such a committee , the present law must be altered , it declaring in terms not to be mistaken : —

" The Board has the direction of everything relating to the buildings and furniture of the Grand Lodge and may suggest any alterations or improvements . * * * ifc shall also give orders for all the usual and ordinary articles Avhich may be requisite for the Grand Lodge , but no extraordinary expense of any kind shall be incurred Avithout the previous sanction of the Grand Lodge . "

Until that law is altered , it is clear that no committee can be appointed to interfere Avith the management of the Grand Lodge property ; and yet Bro . Herbert Lloyd , a distinguished member of the legal profession , proceeded to move the

appointment of a committee , AA'ith the vieAV of getting rid of the report of the Board of General Purposes altogether , and at once launched into another point of laAv , viz ., that the Freemasons , not being an incorporated body , could not sell

or lease any portion of their property , inasmuch as nobody would lease or purchase from them , they not being in a position to give such a title as anyone Avould accept ; that they could not enforce the carrying out of any contract , as they could neither

sue nor be sued ; and , further , that Freemasonry being a fluctuating * body , a contract entered into by one Grand Lodge might be revoked by anothei * , Avithout the parties Avith whom they contracted having any remedy against them . NOAV , there is

a great deal of legal truth in all this , and the laAA'yers revelled in it to the utmost , altogether disregarding * the fact , that though we cannot give such a title as every lawyer Avould approve , though Ave cannot sell or lease any portion of our property , Ave have done both , and parties have been found to take a title from us AA'ith all its defects .

We some years since sold a portion of our property to the Wesleyan body , and they have erected schools thereon at a considerable cost , no attempt ever having been made by the Grand Lodge of one year to upset the proceedings of a previous

year . Again , more recently , Ave did grant a lease for an hotel , on condition that £ 8000 should be expended upon it . That lease has been carried out , the lessee is still in possession , and the report of the Board of General Purposes , presented on Wednesday last , expressly acknoAvledges that lease , by proposing to buy up the remaining interest in

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THE GRAND LODGE AND " THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE." Article 1
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ANOTHER REGULARITY. Article 3
MASONIC FACTS . Article 4
THE LANDMARKS OF FREEMASONRY. Article 5
ARCHITECTURE OF PALESTINE FROM THE EARLIEST TIMES TO THE CRUSADES. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 9
Untitled Article 10
MASONIC MEM. Article 10
GRAND LODGE. Article 10
METROPOLITAN. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
MARK HAS0NRY. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 19
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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The Grand Lodge And " The Freemasons' Magazine."

his intention to place another nobleman in nomination for the office of Grand Master in opposition to the Earl of Zetland , well knoAving it Avas only a protest against the then government , as also against a noble brother Avhich another section

of Grand Lodge Avished to set up for Grand Master . A change of the executive shortly afterwards took place , since which period , though occasionally disagreeing with the policy pursued , we deny that any brethren have given the Grand

Master and his advisers a more loyal and independent support than have the conductors of THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE . Of late , however , Ave fancy we have seen indications of old influences again tightening around the Grand Master , and we shall

not hesitate to speak freely upon all points in which either the privileges of the Grand Master are interfered Avith , or the independence of Grand Lodge menaced or attempted to be controlled , whilst Ave Avell know kow to maintain the even

tenour of our Avay , regardless of all threats or " warnmsys" Avhich Ave had thought were UOAV confined to the other side of the channel .

The Grand Lodge Property.

THE GRAND LODGE PROPERTY .

The AA hole question regarding the future arrangement of the Gi * ancl Lodge property is IIOAV likely to be brought under the consideration of Grand Lodge , the M . W . Grand Master having consented to call a special Grand Lodge on or about the

16 th of July , Avhen not only the report and plans of the Board of General Purposes , but all other plans and estimates ivhich may be deposited at the Grand Secretary's office before the end of June , are to be taken into consideration , ' and ,

Ave hope , ultimately lead to the adoption of a scheme generally acceptable to the brethren , and not too costly . That that conclusion can be quickly arrived at Ave have no hope , especially if the laAvyers are to be alloAved , to disport themselves as they

did on Wednesday evening , when something like tAvo hours Avere Avasted fighting * AA ith shadoAvs , and shoAving the difference betAveen tAveedledum and tAveedledee ; and that , too , on a motion which everybody Avho had read the Booh of Constitutions

kneAV could not be put to Grand Lodge * . We have long been of opinion , and often expressed it , that the best tribunal to carry , out any scheme for the re-arrangement of the Grand Lodge property would be an independent Committee of

The Grand Lodge Property.

Grand Lodge , and not a fluctuating body like the Board of General Purposes ; but Ave have never been blind to the fact that , to enable Grand Lodge to appoint such a committee , the present law must be altered , it declaring in terms not to be mistaken : —

" The Board has the direction of everything relating to the buildings and furniture of the Grand Lodge and may suggest any alterations or improvements . * * * ifc shall also give orders for all the usual and ordinary articles Avhich may be requisite for the Grand Lodge , but no extraordinary expense of any kind shall be incurred Avithout the previous sanction of the Grand Lodge . "

Until that law is altered , it is clear that no committee can be appointed to interfere Avith the management of the Grand Lodge property ; and yet Bro . Herbert Lloyd , a distinguished member of the legal profession , proceeded to move the

appointment of a committee , AA'ith the vieAV of getting rid of the report of the Board of General Purposes altogether , and at once launched into another point of laAv , viz ., that the Freemasons , not being an incorporated body , could not sell

or lease any portion of their property , inasmuch as nobody would lease or purchase from them , they not being in a position to give such a title as anyone Avould accept ; that they could not enforce the carrying out of any contract , as they could neither

sue nor be sued ; and , further , that Freemasonry being a fluctuating * body , a contract entered into by one Grand Lodge might be revoked by anothei * , Avithout the parties Avith whom they contracted having any remedy against them . NOAV , there is

a great deal of legal truth in all this , and the laAA'yers revelled in it to the utmost , altogether disregarding * the fact , that though we cannot give such a title as every lawyer Avould approve , though Ave cannot sell or lease any portion of our property , Ave have done both , and parties have been found to take a title from us AA'ith all its defects .

We some years since sold a portion of our property to the Wesleyan body , and they have erected schools thereon at a considerable cost , no attempt ever having been made by the Grand Lodge of one year to upset the proceedings of a previous

year . Again , more recently , Ave did grant a lease for an hotel , on condition that £ 8000 should be expended upon it . That lease has been carried out , the lessee is still in possession , and the report of the Board of General Purposes , presented on Wednesday last , expressly acknoAvledges that lease , by proposing to buy up the remaining interest in

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