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Correspondence.
in Italy , and Chamberlain to the Duke , then residing in Welbeck-street , Cavendish-square , and well known in the most aristocratic circles in London . The Count de Mortara was then the Baillie of the English Xangue . The Order held its meetings regularly in the old Gatehouse tAvice in each week for the
reception of the casual sick , according to the knightly TOWS of the brethren , and , in fact , maintained a dispensary . An Italian physician , Dr . and Bro . Cajelaso Negri , was then the chief of the medical staff . Bro . C . E . _ Jenkins Avas at that time Secretary of the Council , ancl I myself was Secretary of the Chapter
for a short time , and my handwriting may be found in the minute-book . For the correctness of this statement I refer to the venerable Sir Warwick Hale Tomkins , an old officer of the army , and a magistrate , now residing at Teignmouth " HouseTeignmouthDevonshirewho
, , , belonged to the London Chapter of the English Langue at the same time that I did . I am perfectly well aware that a club met at the same place , the London Gate , in Clerkenwell , for convivial purposes , the place being a tavern , and then kept by a man named Humphries ; but this had nothing whatever to
do with the Hospital of St . John , whose members met there also , clinging to ancient recollections , and there dispensed their medical charities to the sick . ( Signed ) J . B . TURNEE , Major-Commanding Field Battery of Ottawa , Canada . West . Ottawa , 17 th August , 1859 .
Masonic Tramps.
MASONIC TRAMPS .
_ TO THE EDITOR OE THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC HIRROK . Dear Sir and Brother , —Seeing a letter in your impression of 25 th ult ., signed "A Quaker , " with regard to Masonic tramps , I beg to call the attention of the brethren to one who has taken up the occupation of a Masonic tramp , and has victimised many of the
brethren in Scotland and elsewhere . His name is George Fisher ; he hails ( unfortunately ) from a Scotch lodge ; he uses the name of the Past Master of his mother lodge , and represents that he is sent by him . I hope that the brethren in Scotland , England , and Ireland will be aware of Bro . G . Fisher . Tours fraternally , A PAST MASTER OE A SCOTCH LODGE .
Father Suffield And Freemasonry.
FATHER SUFFIELD AND FREEMASONRY .
TO THE EDITOR OE THE EREEMASONS MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —Enclosed I send you a short letter Avhich appears in several of our Torkshire and Durham papers . Perhaps you may deem it worthy of a place in the Magazine , with or without comment . Whether Father Suffield will reply or not know ¦
I not but if he does I will send you a copy of his rejoinder . Tours fraternally , G . M . TAVEDDELE . Stokesley , Jan . 27 , 1 S 6 S . Dear Sir , —I have read Father Suffield's lecture "On the Wrongs of Ireland and the Follies ' of Fe-
Father Suffield And Freemasonry.
nianism , " as lately reported in your paper , with great pleasure , taken as a whole but I must challenge one passage therein as totally devoid of truth . It is the concluding portion of that sentence wherein the rev . gentleman states that "Fenianism hangs together very loosely , not to be compared to the
Freemason Society , except that nationalism is the root of the former , revolution and infidelity of the latter . " As an ardent Freemason , with some years ' experience of the time-honoured and ever-to-hehonoured Craft , I emphatically deny the truth of Father Suffield ' s assertion regarding it ; and I now
call upon him , as a man of honour , either to retracS the charge , or to bring evidence to support it ; for on behalf of Freemasonry I plead " Not Guilty " to the indictment . I am , dear Sir , yours truly , GEORGE MARKHAM TAVEDDELE . Stokesley , Torkshire , Jan . 22 nd , 1868 .
Lodge Of Glasgow St. John.
LODGE OF GLASGOW ST . JOHN .
TO THE EDITOR OE THE EREEMASONS MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIEROE . Dear Sir and Brother , —I have to thank you for your . kindness in inserting my last letter , and also for appending thereto , as requested , the translation of our old charter , which I consider ought to prove an interesting document to all Masons who are interested in our old lodges and their foundation <& c .
, Our charter I consider also to be all the more worthy of perusal , seeing it has passed the watchful eyes of those keen lawyers , the Lords of Session in Scotland . I think-it must now be admitted that the Lodge of Glasgow St . John requires no legend on which to found its antiquitmore especially asbesides the
y , , charter from Malcolm III ., there is also another ( confirmatory charter ) from William the Lion , granted in the latter end of the tAvelfth century , besides other ? evidence to be brought forward . Therefore , in giving A . D . 1057 as our date of constitution for insertion in the Masonic Calendar , we are only doing what we are
perfectly justified in . I must UOAV answer the objection , " That you are not aware of the existence of any work which has a recognised position in Masonic literature that can be quoted in aid of the plea of St . John 3 bis being constituted in 1057 " Now I consider that to be not our
. fault , but the fault of Masonic authors , who , while eagerly making the most of some otherwise obscure village that has a lion to boast of in the shape of the remains of some once grand cathedral or abbey , seem somehoAV to have almost altogether overlooked that venerable buildins in Glasgow AA'hich is one of the
finest examples now standing in the kingdom of the early English or first pointed styles of Gothic architecture . Sir Walter Scott , however , mentions it in " Eofe Boy" in the following terms : — "Ah ! it's a brave kirk—nane o' yere whigmaleeries and curliewurlies
and opensteek hems about it—a' solid , weel-jointed mason-work , that will stand as lang as the Avorld keeps hands and gunpowther off it . " Well done , Sir Walter , say I ; and since St . John's Lodge now admits speculative Masons amongst them
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in Italy , and Chamberlain to the Duke , then residing in Welbeck-street , Cavendish-square , and well known in the most aristocratic circles in London . The Count de Mortara was then the Baillie of the English Xangue . The Order held its meetings regularly in the old Gatehouse tAvice in each week for the
reception of the casual sick , according to the knightly TOWS of the brethren , and , in fact , maintained a dispensary . An Italian physician , Dr . and Bro . Cajelaso Negri , was then the chief of the medical staff . Bro . C . E . _ Jenkins Avas at that time Secretary of the Council , ancl I myself was Secretary of the Chapter
for a short time , and my handwriting may be found in the minute-book . For the correctness of this statement I refer to the venerable Sir Warwick Hale Tomkins , an old officer of the army , and a magistrate , now residing at Teignmouth " HouseTeignmouthDevonshirewho
, , , belonged to the London Chapter of the English Langue at the same time that I did . I am perfectly well aware that a club met at the same place , the London Gate , in Clerkenwell , for convivial purposes , the place being a tavern , and then kept by a man named Humphries ; but this had nothing whatever to
do with the Hospital of St . John , whose members met there also , clinging to ancient recollections , and there dispensed their medical charities to the sick . ( Signed ) J . B . TURNEE , Major-Commanding Field Battery of Ottawa , Canada . West . Ottawa , 17 th August , 1859 .
Masonic Tramps.
MASONIC TRAMPS .
_ TO THE EDITOR OE THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC HIRROK . Dear Sir and Brother , —Seeing a letter in your impression of 25 th ult ., signed "A Quaker , " with regard to Masonic tramps , I beg to call the attention of the brethren to one who has taken up the occupation of a Masonic tramp , and has victimised many of the
brethren in Scotland and elsewhere . His name is George Fisher ; he hails ( unfortunately ) from a Scotch lodge ; he uses the name of the Past Master of his mother lodge , and represents that he is sent by him . I hope that the brethren in Scotland , England , and Ireland will be aware of Bro . G . Fisher . Tours fraternally , A PAST MASTER OE A SCOTCH LODGE .
Father Suffield And Freemasonry.
FATHER SUFFIELD AND FREEMASONRY .
TO THE EDITOR OE THE EREEMASONS MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —Enclosed I send you a short letter Avhich appears in several of our Torkshire and Durham papers . Perhaps you may deem it worthy of a place in the Magazine , with or without comment . Whether Father Suffield will reply or not know ¦
I not but if he does I will send you a copy of his rejoinder . Tours fraternally , G . M . TAVEDDELE . Stokesley , Jan . 27 , 1 S 6 S . Dear Sir , —I have read Father Suffield's lecture "On the Wrongs of Ireland and the Follies ' of Fe-
Father Suffield And Freemasonry.
nianism , " as lately reported in your paper , with great pleasure , taken as a whole but I must challenge one passage therein as totally devoid of truth . It is the concluding portion of that sentence wherein the rev . gentleman states that "Fenianism hangs together very loosely , not to be compared to the
Freemason Society , except that nationalism is the root of the former , revolution and infidelity of the latter . " As an ardent Freemason , with some years ' experience of the time-honoured and ever-to-hehonoured Craft , I emphatically deny the truth of Father Suffield ' s assertion regarding it ; and I now
call upon him , as a man of honour , either to retracS the charge , or to bring evidence to support it ; for on behalf of Freemasonry I plead " Not Guilty " to the indictment . I am , dear Sir , yours truly , GEORGE MARKHAM TAVEDDELE . Stokesley , Torkshire , Jan . 22 nd , 1868 .
Lodge Of Glasgow St. John.
LODGE OF GLASGOW ST . JOHN .
TO THE EDITOR OE THE EREEMASONS MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIEROE . Dear Sir and Brother , —I have to thank you for your . kindness in inserting my last letter , and also for appending thereto , as requested , the translation of our old charter , which I consider ought to prove an interesting document to all Masons who are interested in our old lodges and their foundation <& c .
, Our charter I consider also to be all the more worthy of perusal , seeing it has passed the watchful eyes of those keen lawyers , the Lords of Session in Scotland . I think-it must now be admitted that the Lodge of Glasgow St . John requires no legend on which to found its antiquitmore especially asbesides the
y , , charter from Malcolm III ., there is also another ( confirmatory charter ) from William the Lion , granted in the latter end of the tAvelfth century , besides other ? evidence to be brought forward . Therefore , in giving A . D . 1057 as our date of constitution for insertion in the Masonic Calendar , we are only doing what we are
perfectly justified in . I must UOAV answer the objection , " That you are not aware of the existence of any work which has a recognised position in Masonic literature that can be quoted in aid of the plea of St . John 3 bis being constituted in 1057 " Now I consider that to be not our
. fault , but the fault of Masonic authors , who , while eagerly making the most of some otherwise obscure village that has a lion to boast of in the shape of the remains of some once grand cathedral or abbey , seem somehoAV to have almost altogether overlooked that venerable buildins in Glasgow AA'hich is one of the
finest examples now standing in the kingdom of the early English or first pointed styles of Gothic architecture . Sir Walter Scott , however , mentions it in " Eofe Boy" in the following terms : — "Ah ! it's a brave kirk—nane o' yere whigmaleeries and curliewurlies
and opensteek hems about it—a' solid , weel-jointed mason-work , that will stand as lang as the Avorld keeps hands and gunpowther off it . " Well done , Sir Walter , say I ; and since St . John's Lodge now admits speculative Masons amongst them