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Masonic Notes And Queries.

under the notice of brethren , and as they are commonly signed by the officers of the lodges for the year , they afford , as in this instance , materials for a record . If , therefore , brethren will avail themselves of the opportunity , we shall by means of THE FREEMASONS MAGAZINE collect some interesting particulars . For instance , we are very desirous at Constantinople and Smyrna of obtaining facts as to the older lodges , which once existed . —HYDE CLAM , Constantinople , April 22 , 1861 .

KNIGHTS OP CONSTANTINOPLE . In your MAGAZINE of January 5 th , ] S " o . 79 , there is a query about the jewel of Knights of Constantinople , which you did not answer . As I am an Illustrious Sovereign of the Order , I can give you the correct description of the jewel , which is sold by Bro . E . Spencer , of Great Queen-street . The jewels are of two kinds , viz ., of Illustrious Sovereign ,

one heart between two poignards , silver , banging from a red riband , in the centre of which there should be an imperial crown , in gold . The jewel of a Companion is thc same , with the exception of having a crescent and star , instead of a crown on the riband thus , all in silver . The Illustrious Sovereign must be a P . M . of a lodge , and the Companions M . ' . M . - . I enclose my card , but do not wish to have my name published , although I am one of your admirers , and have been a subscriber of your MAGAZINE , from the 1 st of January , 1857 .

LODGE NO . II , IN 1735 . Which lodge is it that in 1735 was JNo . 11 , and met at the Queen ' s Head in Knaves-acre , and was constituted Feb . 27 th 172-1 ? also , where was Knaves-acre?—C . E . T . HAM , AND TIIE ASK AND MARK DEGREE . What is the reason that Ham , Shah ' s son , is excluded from the Ark and Mark degree ?—T . A . T . —[ If you have taken that degree you ought to know the second answer in the lecture . If not , read your Bible , and you will find out .

" THE MORGAN INVESTIGATOR . Has any one in England a copy of a periodical entitled The Morgan Investigator , which appeared for some eighteen months at Batavia , United States , at the time ofthe Morgan excitement in 1826 . —Ex . Ex . LODGE SEALS . What lodges have peculiar , emblematic , armorial , or other

descriptions of dies , or seals . —A COLLECTOR . HENRY MOZLEY . Is anything known of ono Henry Mozlej ' , of Gray ' s Inn ? I have an old book of French Masonic songs , with the music , and this is the name and address written on the cover . — M . 0 . WAS SHAKESPERE A MASON ? In "Antony and Cleopatra , " act ii ., scene 3 , Antony says : — JMv Octavia ,

. Read not my blemishes in the world ' s report , I have not kept my square ; but that to come Shall all be done by rule . The words in italic are , I presume , intended to convey the meaning of a Mason . Was Shakespere a Mason ?—A . B . —[ If every word that is used in Shakespeare ' s plays is to betaken as conveying that the author belonged to the Craft

that employs' them , then indeed Shakespere must have been pretty well everything , and he has been called almost everything by turns . JNothing is easier than to turn to Ayscough ' s , or Mrs . Cowden Clarke ' s Concordances , and hunting up all the terms knoivn to exist , in one art , or business , make the poet ' s ivords prove him to have belonged to that calling . There is a vast deal too much idle nonsense

talked about Shakespere , by people who , if they had a little sense , would not try to make an author beeomeless than he was by pulling him down to their own level . ] MASONS CLOTHED IN IVHITE . There is a report that in the last century Masons in Germany , France , Holland , and Denmark , used to be entirely clothed in ivhite when in lod . At what time was such a

ge practice prevalent ?—F . C . MASONIC EXPULSIONS . Is there any record kept of those brethren who have been expelled from Masonry ?—Civis . —[ We hope not . Many have , in former clays , suffered the disgrace , but , thank God ,

none of late years . Would not CIVIS be more charitable if he refrained from seeking'for such ? Let us hope all who have been expelled havo repented . Our pages cannot bo made the vehicle to re-open their shame ] . UNRECOGNISED DEGREES . I should be glad if any of your correspondents who are in possession of unrecognised degrees , by which I mean such

as do not come within the list of any of the existing authorities here , would kindly communicate to me , through the Editor , what they arc , and who belong to them . —S . A . S . TRACING 0 E A CURIOUS MEDAL . [ It won't do ; we cannot engrave it . The plumb rule yon allude to is nothing of the kind . We keep a good g lass , and are not so easildeceived . You tried our gullibility once

y before with a sham apron . JNhxt time you waut to exercise your pencil , try some one else , or we shall be compelled to attend lodgo JSTO . , at the Hall , and ask the brethren what they think of your facetiousness ] .

1 SURPLICES IN LODGE . I ^ am chaplain of a lodge . I think it more becoming to that character to do my duty in a surplice . Can any oneof your readers favour mo with a precedent , as I have no desire to be an innovator?—M . A ., Cantab . sm KNIGHT . AVhat is the meaning of using the title Sir Knight , by

Knights Templar ? It jarred painfully on my ear when I was lately installed . —AAA . —[ AVe used to think as you do , but have come to regard it differently . Knights Templar are made Knights , but it ivould be ridiculous to speak of a nian as Sir Humphrey Brown , who is neither a Baronet or Knightbachelor . Therefore , in an Encampment , such a one is addressed as Sir KntHumphrey Broivnandhf a Baronet or

. , Knight is present , he does not feel that we are in any way infringing-upon his legal and recognised status in society , but knows that the Humphrey Brown , aforesaid , is a Masonic Knt . Templar . ] ,

HEREDITARY MARKS OF MASONS . As in the operative Craft of Masonry many men havo marks which have been handed down from father to son , is there , in the Mark degree , any brethren that use marks which their fathers adopted before them?—S . 0 . SUPREME GRAND COUNCIL . It has been said that tho 33 ° , or Supreme Grand Council ,

is older than Craft Masonry . Is this the case ?—E . A . T . — - [ Who has said so ? Every assertion should be founded on a reference , and the latter correctly given . The Supreme Grand Council was established in 1786 by Frederick II ., of Prussia , and has gradually spread into various countries . ] HEALING A MASON . AVhat is meant by healing a Mason ? I lately read iu a

continental paper that Bro . ( I forgeu thc name ) was formally healed in a lodge . I am sure my translation of the word "hcilen , " to heal , is correct . —C . JE . —[ To heal is correct . It means that , when a brother lias taken a degree under a clandestine , or non-recognised authority , and presents himself to a regular lodge for re-obligation , he is said to be healed . It is an expressive term , ancl fully conveys its own meaning . ]

IVAS HIRAM ABIF MARRIED ? Was Hiram Abif married , ancl if so , to whom ?—X . E . — [ Some say yes , some no . Ask Adonhiram the first time you meet him . ] WAS HELD-MARSHAL RI . UClIET . A BROTHER ? I have been reading a life of Blucher , and it appears to mo that either he was a brother , or the writer of it was one .

Can any one tell me if Field-Marshal Blucher was a Mason ? -CE . KNIGHTS OF THE HOLY SEPULCHRE . AVhat is a Council of Knights of the Holy Sepulchre , and to what order , or system , does the degree belong?—A KNT . OR CALATRAVA . MEDAL OP THE RISING STAR LODGE .

Iii 1844 , Bro . Burnes founded the Rising Star Lodge for thc natives of India . They , in commemoration of the event caused a medal to be struck by AVyon , the Engraver to the Mint here in London . Has any one a copy or impression of that medal ?—P . P .

“The Freemasons' Monthly Magazine: 1861-05-11, Page 9” Masonic Periodicals Online, Library and Museum of Freemasonry, 2 June 2025, django:8000/periodicals/mmr/issues/mmr_11051861/page/9/.
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OUR CHARITIES. Article 1
MEMOIRS OF THE FREEMASONS OF NAPLES. Article 1
ARCHITECTURE AND ARCHÆOLOGY. Article 3
THE REMAINS OF ANCIENT ROMAN BATHS IN ENGLAND. Article 6
GENERAL ARCHITECTURAL INTELLIGENCE. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 8
NOTES ON LITERATURE, SCIENCE, AND ART. Article 10
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 11
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 11
THE ASYLUM FOR AGED MASONS AND THEIR WIDOWS. Article 12
A CASE OF DISTRESS. Article 12
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 12
METROPOLITAN. Article 12
ROYAL BENEVOLENT INSTITUTION FOR AGED MASONS AND THEIR WIDOWS. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 14
COLONIAL. Article 14
ROYAL ARCH. Article 15
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 15
SCOTLAND. Article 16
INDIA. Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 18
NOTES ON MUSIC AND THE DRAMA. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

under the notice of brethren , and as they are commonly signed by the officers of the lodges for the year , they afford , as in this instance , materials for a record . If , therefore , brethren will avail themselves of the opportunity , we shall by means of THE FREEMASONS MAGAZINE collect some interesting particulars . For instance , we are very desirous at Constantinople and Smyrna of obtaining facts as to the older lodges , which once existed . —HYDE CLAM , Constantinople , April 22 , 1861 .

KNIGHTS OP CONSTANTINOPLE . In your MAGAZINE of January 5 th , ] S " o . 79 , there is a query about the jewel of Knights of Constantinople , which you did not answer . As I am an Illustrious Sovereign of the Order , I can give you the correct description of the jewel , which is sold by Bro . E . Spencer , of Great Queen-street . The jewels are of two kinds , viz ., of Illustrious Sovereign ,

one heart between two poignards , silver , banging from a red riband , in the centre of which there should be an imperial crown , in gold . The jewel of a Companion is thc same , with the exception of having a crescent and star , instead of a crown on the riband thus , all in silver . The Illustrious Sovereign must be a P . M . of a lodge , and the Companions M . ' . M . - . I enclose my card , but do not wish to have my name published , although I am one of your admirers , and have been a subscriber of your MAGAZINE , from the 1 st of January , 1857 .

LODGE NO . II , IN 1735 . Which lodge is it that in 1735 was JNo . 11 , and met at the Queen ' s Head in Knaves-acre , and was constituted Feb . 27 th 172-1 ? also , where was Knaves-acre?—C . E . T . HAM , AND TIIE ASK AND MARK DEGREE . What is the reason that Ham , Shah ' s son , is excluded from the Ark and Mark degree ?—T . A . T . —[ If you have taken that degree you ought to know the second answer in the lecture . If not , read your Bible , and you will find out .

" THE MORGAN INVESTIGATOR . Has any one in England a copy of a periodical entitled The Morgan Investigator , which appeared for some eighteen months at Batavia , United States , at the time ofthe Morgan excitement in 1826 . —Ex . Ex . LODGE SEALS . What lodges have peculiar , emblematic , armorial , or other

descriptions of dies , or seals . —A COLLECTOR . HENRY MOZLEY . Is anything known of ono Henry Mozlej ' , of Gray ' s Inn ? I have an old book of French Masonic songs , with the music , and this is the name and address written on the cover . — M . 0 . WAS SHAKESPERE A MASON ? In "Antony and Cleopatra , " act ii ., scene 3 , Antony says : — JMv Octavia ,

. Read not my blemishes in the world ' s report , I have not kept my square ; but that to come Shall all be done by rule . The words in italic are , I presume , intended to convey the meaning of a Mason . Was Shakespere a Mason ?—A . B . —[ If every word that is used in Shakespeare ' s plays is to betaken as conveying that the author belonged to the Craft

that employs' them , then indeed Shakespere must have been pretty well everything , and he has been called almost everything by turns . JNothing is easier than to turn to Ayscough ' s , or Mrs . Cowden Clarke ' s Concordances , and hunting up all the terms knoivn to exist , in one art , or business , make the poet ' s ivords prove him to have belonged to that calling . There is a vast deal too much idle nonsense

talked about Shakespere , by people who , if they had a little sense , would not try to make an author beeomeless than he was by pulling him down to their own level . ] MASONS CLOTHED IN IVHITE . There is a report that in the last century Masons in Germany , France , Holland , and Denmark , used to be entirely clothed in ivhite when in lod . At what time was such a

ge practice prevalent ?—F . C . MASONIC EXPULSIONS . Is there any record kept of those brethren who have been expelled from Masonry ?—Civis . —[ We hope not . Many have , in former clays , suffered the disgrace , but , thank God ,

none of late years . Would not CIVIS be more charitable if he refrained from seeking'for such ? Let us hope all who have been expelled havo repented . Our pages cannot bo made the vehicle to re-open their shame ] . UNRECOGNISED DEGREES . I should be glad if any of your correspondents who are in possession of unrecognised degrees , by which I mean such

as do not come within the list of any of the existing authorities here , would kindly communicate to me , through the Editor , what they arc , and who belong to them . —S . A . S . TRACING 0 E A CURIOUS MEDAL . [ It won't do ; we cannot engrave it . The plumb rule yon allude to is nothing of the kind . We keep a good g lass , and are not so easildeceived . You tried our gullibility once

y before with a sham apron . JNhxt time you waut to exercise your pencil , try some one else , or we shall be compelled to attend lodgo JSTO . , at the Hall , and ask the brethren what they think of your facetiousness ] .

1 SURPLICES IN LODGE . I ^ am chaplain of a lodge . I think it more becoming to that character to do my duty in a surplice . Can any oneof your readers favour mo with a precedent , as I have no desire to be an innovator?—M . A ., Cantab . sm KNIGHT . AVhat is the meaning of using the title Sir Knight , by

Knights Templar ? It jarred painfully on my ear when I was lately installed . —AAA . —[ AVe used to think as you do , but have come to regard it differently . Knights Templar are made Knights , but it ivould be ridiculous to speak of a nian as Sir Humphrey Brown , who is neither a Baronet or Knightbachelor . Therefore , in an Encampment , such a one is addressed as Sir KntHumphrey Broivnandhf a Baronet or

. , Knight is present , he does not feel that we are in any way infringing-upon his legal and recognised status in society , but knows that the Humphrey Brown , aforesaid , is a Masonic Knt . Templar . ] ,

HEREDITARY MARKS OF MASONS . As in the operative Craft of Masonry many men havo marks which have been handed down from father to son , is there , in the Mark degree , any brethren that use marks which their fathers adopted before them?—S . 0 . SUPREME GRAND COUNCIL . It has been said that tho 33 ° , or Supreme Grand Council ,

is older than Craft Masonry . Is this the case ?—E . A . T . — - [ Who has said so ? Every assertion should be founded on a reference , and the latter correctly given . The Supreme Grand Council was established in 1786 by Frederick II ., of Prussia , and has gradually spread into various countries . ] HEALING A MASON . AVhat is meant by healing a Mason ? I lately read iu a

continental paper that Bro . ( I forgeu thc name ) was formally healed in a lodge . I am sure my translation of the word "hcilen , " to heal , is correct . —C . JE . —[ To heal is correct . It means that , when a brother lias taken a degree under a clandestine , or non-recognised authority , and presents himself to a regular lodge for re-obligation , he is said to be healed . It is an expressive term , ancl fully conveys its own meaning . ]

IVAS HIRAM ABIF MARRIED ? Was Hiram Abif married , ancl if so , to whom ?—X . E . — [ Some say yes , some no . Ask Adonhiram the first time you meet him . ] WAS HELD-MARSHAL RI . UClIET . A BROTHER ? I have been reading a life of Blucher , and it appears to mo that either he was a brother , or the writer of it was one .

Can any one tell me if Field-Marshal Blucher was a Mason ? -CE . KNIGHTS OF THE HOLY SEPULCHRE . AVhat is a Council of Knights of the Holy Sepulchre , and to what order , or system , does the degree belong?—A KNT . OR CALATRAVA . MEDAL OP THE RISING STAR LODGE .

Iii 1844 , Bro . Burnes founded the Rising Star Lodge for thc natives of India . They , in commemoration of the event caused a medal to be struck by AVyon , the Engraver to the Mint here in London . Has any one a copy or impression of that medal ?—P . P .

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