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Bro. Melville's Articles.

May I ask " Senex " to give us a little further information on this head ? The reference to Ruth , chap . 19 , is , of course , an error . As to Bro . Melville's wonderful discovery , I can only say the sooner the new light is shown us the better , if there is really any light to show . Tours fraternally , EXCELSIOR .

10 THE EDITOK OF THE " FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —I have just read rather a bold assertion in the Magazine of the 17 th ultimo , page 305 , in the foot-note to Bro . H . Melville's "Masonic Celestial . Mysteries , " viz .: 1 . "That no living English brother ever heard read a single verse

iu open lodge . " Of what ? The Bible ! Nonsense ; I know better than that ! Not long since , when I was W . M . of the Gosport Lodge , I had the pleasure of initiating a clergyman of the Church of England . The S . V . was opened on that occasion at the 133 Psalm . At an opportune momentimmediatelafter

, y having directed the initiate's attention to the Great Light itself , I requested him to read aloud those beautiful Masonic verses , when the brethren present reverently rose with one accord to their feet . And he did read them—most impressively—to the evident satisi ' actiou of himself aud his hearers

. I may add , that it was rather the exception than the rule not to read , or , at least , to draw the attention of the initiates to the passages of Scripture upon which The Book was opened , bearing on the working of each degree , as recommended in Dr . Oliver's "Book of the Lod / ' chapter 5

ge . If you deem this worthy of notice—well ; if not , commit it to the waste basket . Iu either case , I remain , dear Sir and Brother , — Tours fraternally , W . J ., P . M . 257 .

P.M.'S And The Working Brethren Of Lodges.

P . M . 'S AND THE WORKING BRETHREN OF LODGES .

10 THE EDITOR 01 ' THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —On reading the letter of "H . II . " iu the Magazine of the 24 th ult ., I could not refrain from smiling ( albeit , perhaps , rather un-Masonic ) at the way in which he would put me down for the simple reason that , instead of occupying two lines with si

a gnature and a whole host of letters aud figures , my communication was signed "O . P . " But , Sir , I have yet to learn , that such letters are positive proof of anything more than social rank , for I know a P . P . S . G . W ., aud several P . M . ' s who are totally unable either to initiate a caudidate , open a lodge , do Masonic work

or auy beyond presiding at a banquet ; and _ possibly many others know the same . I mention this , not to say that I disapprove of brethren of eminence and social rank being elevated ° to high position , but to maintain that the " written opinions of some 20 or 30 P . M . ' s " may be of very small value , affords

as H . H . " us no means of judging " of their experience . Mark the partiality of H . H . with respect to the letters of ^ 'B ^ and O . P . The former agrees with him , consequently must be patted on the back , although he gives no proof of his experience , except , perhaps , in his signature ; the latter takes the other

P.M.'S And The Working Brethren Of Lodges.

side , and , of course , must he put down . This of itself is sufficient to prove what I say—that a P . M . ' s opinion i 3 not always of value . Mark , also , his silence with respect to the main point in my former letter , viz , — " the right of a W . M . to nominate a brother to preside iu his absence . " Let him obtain the

" opinions of some 20 or 30 P . M . 's " on that point , and see who they agree with iu that respect . But , Sir , you are aware of my being entitled to wear the much-coveted " purple and gold , " of my being a P . Z . of one Chapter and Z . elect of another , and other circumstances numerous enough to implthat lought

y to be experienced , without it being necessary for me to blazon it forth to the world , as it by no means follows that the drum , although a large instrument , discourses the sweetest music .

I , like H . H ., desire to see the matter discussed in a calm spirit , and agree with him that some of our laws and customs require amendment , or rather alteration , but differ from him in the mode of carrying these into effect . I contend that our laws , while they are in force , should be regarded , and our superiors in

office respected , and not indirectly set at defiance because we think them wrong , and want to carry out a crotchet of our own—as , for instance , the baby work of placing a second pedestal in front of the W . M . Such is not a good way of obtaining reform in our laws . Agitate for and advocate alteration , if required , say I ; but obey while not repealed . Tours fraternally , O . P .

P . S . —In my former letter the following sentence got rather misplaced : —But I have seen it often occur , in the attempt to put a " liberal and intelligent construction "f [ other words , for " makethem read to suit your purpose " ] upon certain laws , that the said laws have been so distorted and strained as to put , in my opinion , almost the reverse of their meaning .

Masonic Impostors.

MASONIC IMPOSTORS .

TO TnE EDITOR OS THE FREEMASONS' JTAGAZINB AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —I cry—Oh ! ye Masons , beware of a Masonic impostor that is travelling about seeking whoever he may rob ! On Tuesday , the 27 th ult ., a man presented himself at our Union Lodge , No . 31 . 0 , Carlisle , as a visitor ; he signed his name , John

Dee , Lord Leigh Rifle Volunteer Lodge , No . SS 7 , Birmingham . As he had no certificate he was severely tested by a worthy P . M ., and Bi'o . Dee was then passed into the lodge , where he stated that he resided at No . 125 , Stafford-street , Birmingham , where he was keeping a hairdresser ' s shopand that

, he had received intimation of his daughter running away from her employment at Liverpool , where she was serving her time as a milliner , and , of course , made all haste to Liverpool to find that his daughter had flown ; he therefore proceeded to Whitehaven , and thence to Carlislewhere he had onljust arrived

, y , and , being short of money , he now applied to this lodge . Well , Sir , I proposed that we should give him 5 s . —perhaps a small sum . —but I find it was enough for an impostor . The members thought it would not last long , and Bro . Dee said that if the lodge would give him 5 s . and lend him 15 s ., he , upon his arrival

home , would remit the same . Consequently he received £ 1 , promising to pay back , and also signed a paper to that effect . The best description I can give

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MASONIC CELESTIAL MYSTERIES. Article 1
FREEMASONRY IN PORTUGAL. Article 5
THE PRAYERS OF THE CRAFT. Article 6
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 7
MASONIC ARCHÆOLOGY. Article 9
BRO. MELVILLE'S ARTICLES. Article 9
P.M.'S AND THE WORKING BRETHREN OF LODGES. Article 10
MASONIC IMPOSTORS. Article 10
THE MASONIC PHILOSOPHER'S STONE. Article 11
MASONIC CELESTIAL MISTERIES. Article 11
MASONIC IMPOSTORS AND AN OFFICIAL GAZETTE. Article 11
UNIFORMITY OF RITUAL. Article 12
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 12
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR GIRLS. Article 12
METROPOLITAN. Article 15
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
SCOTLAND. Article 17
INDIA. Article 17
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
LAYING OF THE MEMORIAL STONE OF THE PAISLEY FREE PUBLIC LIBRARY AND MUSEUM WITH GRAND MASONIC HONOURS. Article 17
THE RECENT BALL IN DUBLIN. Article 19
LIST OF LODGE, &c., MEETINGS FOR WEEK ENDING 22ND MAY, 1869. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Bro. Melville's Articles.

May I ask " Senex " to give us a little further information on this head ? The reference to Ruth , chap . 19 , is , of course , an error . As to Bro . Melville's wonderful discovery , I can only say the sooner the new light is shown us the better , if there is really any light to show . Tours fraternally , EXCELSIOR .

10 THE EDITOK OF THE " FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —I have just read rather a bold assertion in the Magazine of the 17 th ultimo , page 305 , in the foot-note to Bro . H . Melville's "Masonic Celestial . Mysteries , " viz .: 1 . "That no living English brother ever heard read a single verse

iu open lodge . " Of what ? The Bible ! Nonsense ; I know better than that ! Not long since , when I was W . M . of the Gosport Lodge , I had the pleasure of initiating a clergyman of the Church of England . The S . V . was opened on that occasion at the 133 Psalm . At an opportune momentimmediatelafter

, y having directed the initiate's attention to the Great Light itself , I requested him to read aloud those beautiful Masonic verses , when the brethren present reverently rose with one accord to their feet . And he did read them—most impressively—to the evident satisi ' actiou of himself aud his hearers

. I may add , that it was rather the exception than the rule not to read , or , at least , to draw the attention of the initiates to the passages of Scripture upon which The Book was opened , bearing on the working of each degree , as recommended in Dr . Oliver's "Book of the Lod / ' chapter 5

ge . If you deem this worthy of notice—well ; if not , commit it to the waste basket . Iu either case , I remain , dear Sir and Brother , — Tours fraternally , W . J ., P . M . 257 .

P.M.'S And The Working Brethren Of Lodges.

P . M . 'S AND THE WORKING BRETHREN OF LODGES .

10 THE EDITOR 01 ' THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —On reading the letter of "H . II . " iu the Magazine of the 24 th ult ., I could not refrain from smiling ( albeit , perhaps , rather un-Masonic ) at the way in which he would put me down for the simple reason that , instead of occupying two lines with si

a gnature and a whole host of letters aud figures , my communication was signed "O . P . " But , Sir , I have yet to learn , that such letters are positive proof of anything more than social rank , for I know a P . P . S . G . W ., aud several P . M . ' s who are totally unable either to initiate a caudidate , open a lodge , do Masonic work

or auy beyond presiding at a banquet ; and _ possibly many others know the same . I mention this , not to say that I disapprove of brethren of eminence and social rank being elevated ° to high position , but to maintain that the " written opinions of some 20 or 30 P . M . ' s " may be of very small value , affords

as H . H . " us no means of judging " of their experience . Mark the partiality of H . H . with respect to the letters of ^ 'B ^ and O . P . The former agrees with him , consequently must be patted on the back , although he gives no proof of his experience , except , perhaps , in his signature ; the latter takes the other

P.M.'S And The Working Brethren Of Lodges.

side , and , of course , must he put down . This of itself is sufficient to prove what I say—that a P . M . ' s opinion i 3 not always of value . Mark , also , his silence with respect to the main point in my former letter , viz , — " the right of a W . M . to nominate a brother to preside iu his absence . " Let him obtain the

" opinions of some 20 or 30 P . M . 's " on that point , and see who they agree with iu that respect . But , Sir , you are aware of my being entitled to wear the much-coveted " purple and gold , " of my being a P . Z . of one Chapter and Z . elect of another , and other circumstances numerous enough to implthat lought

y to be experienced , without it being necessary for me to blazon it forth to the world , as it by no means follows that the drum , although a large instrument , discourses the sweetest music .

I , like H . H ., desire to see the matter discussed in a calm spirit , and agree with him that some of our laws and customs require amendment , or rather alteration , but differ from him in the mode of carrying these into effect . I contend that our laws , while they are in force , should be regarded , and our superiors in

office respected , and not indirectly set at defiance because we think them wrong , and want to carry out a crotchet of our own—as , for instance , the baby work of placing a second pedestal in front of the W . M . Such is not a good way of obtaining reform in our laws . Agitate for and advocate alteration , if required , say I ; but obey while not repealed . Tours fraternally , O . P .

P . S . —In my former letter the following sentence got rather misplaced : —But I have seen it often occur , in the attempt to put a " liberal and intelligent construction "f [ other words , for " makethem read to suit your purpose " ] upon certain laws , that the said laws have been so distorted and strained as to put , in my opinion , almost the reverse of their meaning .

Masonic Impostors.

MASONIC IMPOSTORS .

TO TnE EDITOR OS THE FREEMASONS' JTAGAZINB AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother , —I cry—Oh ! ye Masons , beware of a Masonic impostor that is travelling about seeking whoever he may rob ! On Tuesday , the 27 th ult ., a man presented himself at our Union Lodge , No . 31 . 0 , Carlisle , as a visitor ; he signed his name , John

Dee , Lord Leigh Rifle Volunteer Lodge , No . SS 7 , Birmingham . As he had no certificate he was severely tested by a worthy P . M ., and Bi'o . Dee was then passed into the lodge , where he stated that he resided at No . 125 , Stafford-street , Birmingham , where he was keeping a hairdresser ' s shopand that

, he had received intimation of his daughter running away from her employment at Liverpool , where she was serving her time as a milliner , and , of course , made all haste to Liverpool to find that his daughter had flown ; he therefore proceeded to Whitehaven , and thence to Carlislewhere he had onljust arrived

, y , and , being short of money , he now applied to this lodge . Well , Sir , I proposed that we should give him 5 s . —perhaps a small sum . —but I find it was enough for an impostor . The members thought it would not last long , and Bro . Dee said that if the lodge would give him 5 s . and lend him 15 s ., he , upon his arrival

home , would remit the same . Consequently he received £ 1 , promising to pay back , and also signed a paper to that effect . The best description I can give

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