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which was simply absurd and uncalled for , when there was always every reason to suppose that the appointment most suitable , as well as most pleasing , to the province would be made . He suggested that , if the lodge were anxious to testify their regard for Bro . Talbot , a congratulatory address upon his appointment might be prepared , which they would then be the first to offer . —Bro . DAEZIEI , P . S . W ., supported this view , and Bro . B . JENKINS , Dir . of Cers ., expressing an opinion that the

intimation of the new appointment having reached the brethren through the same channel as the resignation of the late Prov . G . M ., the lodge would be fully warranted in at once adopting the suggestion of the S . W . —Bro . THOKP concurred , and " proposed that a congratulatory address be prepared and presented to Bro . Theodore Mansel Talbot upon his appointment as Prov . G . M . of the province . —Bro . WAEE seconded the proposition , which was carried . —Bros . Pady and Neil were examined in the

E . A . degree , and , having given satisfactory proof of their progress , were passed to the F . C . degree . Lodge having been closed down , Mr . Jno . Thomas was introduced and initiated into the E . A . degree in due form and according to ancient custom , the ceremony being fully and ably performed by the W . M ., and the charge very impressively delivered by Bro . Davies , S . D . There being no other business , the lodge was closed in perfect harmony at 10 o ' clock .

Glamorgan Lodge ( No . 36 ) . —On Friday , 16 th inst ., a lodge of emergency was convened to take into consideration the following matters : —A vote of condolence with the M . W . G . M ., The Earl of Zetland , on the death of the Countess of Zetland . An address to Colonel C . K . Kemys-Tynte , on his resignation of the office of Prov . Grand Master for the Eastern Division of South Wales . An address to the M . W . G . M . praying him to appoint Bro . Theodore Mansel

, Talbot , to the vacant office of P . G . M ., and to pass resolutions accordingly . Lodge was opened at eight o'clock , p . m ., a lodge of instruction having been previously held . Present , Bros . D . Roberts , W . M . ; T . II . Stephens , S . W . ; R . P . Hunt , J . W . ; E . J . Thomas , Treas . ; R . J . Fisher , Sec ; T . G , Glass , S . D . ^ ro tern . ; F . Ware , J . D . pro tern . ; W . Robertson , I . G . ; 1 ST . B . Calder , P . M . ; W . H . Martin , W . M . 960 ; W . J . Gaskell , P . M . ;

R . F . Langley , P . M ., & c . The W . Master proposed and Bro . Calder seconded a suitable address to the Grand Master in relation to the painful bereavement he has sustained . ( Carried unanimously ) . Bro . Ware inquired if any official intimation had been received relative to the reported resignation of Col . Tynte , and the appointment of his successor to the office of Prov . Grand Masterannouncements to that effect having

, gone the round of the public press . The W . Master replied in the negative , and some surprise was expressed at the discourtesy and neglect with which the province appeared to have been treated in the matter ; nevertheless Bro . Gaskell proposed and Bro . Thomas seconded an address to Bro . Tynte upon the resignation which the brethren had casually heard of , Avhich

was carried without dissent . Bro . Langley stated that although no official information had reached them of the fact , yet it was pretty well known , and had also been reported in the papers , that Bro . Talbot had been appointed to the office rendered vacant by the retirement of the Prov . G . Master . It would be therefore unnecessary to consider the propriety of adopting the suggestion contained in the last paragraph of the summons , instead of which he had prepared an address of congratulation

to Bro . Talbot upon his appointment , which he read and proposed . Bro . Stephens said that if anything might emanate from so benighted a region as the " West / ' he should have much pleasure in seconding the proposition , which lie did in some pertinent remarks , ably supported by Bro . Hunt , J . W . Bro . Ware said that although strictly speaking the proposition was out of ordernot appearing in the summons for a lod of

, ge emergency , ho should have much pleasure in supporting it , viewing it as a happy release from the discussion of a very delicate question involved in the last suggestion of the lodge summons . He and others entertained the opinion that to have joined other lodges in an attempt to interfere with the prerogative of the Grand Master , when it was always well known that the brother whom they all desired to see in the office was

about to be appointed ; to " petition" in favour of the brother whom they had every reason to suppose was actually nominated by the retiring Prov . G . M . as his successor , would have been a piece of " toadyism , " offensive to the object and degrading to the lodge . The address was then agreed to unanimously , and there being no further business the lodge was closed in perfect harmony at nine o ' clock .

SUSSEX . PKOA - INCIAI , GBAND LODGE . An especial Provincial Grand Lodge was held at Brighton on Monday , the 12 th inst ., to vote an address of condolence for presentation to the Earl of Zetland , M . W . Grand Master of England , on the occasion of his lordship ' s late domestic bereavement . The W . Bro . Colonel G . C . Dalbiac , D . Prov . G . M .,

presided . There was a largo attendance of Present and Past Provincial Officers , also of WM . ' s , P . M . 's , and members of the Provincial Grand Lodge . The following address was unanimously agreed upon : — " Most Worshipful Grand Master , —We , the Deputy Grand Master , officers , and members of the Provincial Grand Lodge of Sussexbegwith every feeling of respect and esteemto

, , , offer to your lordship our sincere and fraternal condolence under your recent severe bereavement . " Though we are fully sensible that no human power can remove the weight of affliction which , by Divine Will , has fallen upon your lordship , Ave trust that we may in some degree alleviate it , by joining with our brethren in expressing our heartfelt sympathin the grief of one whose uniform kindness

y and urbanity , as well as zealous devotion to the welfare of the Craft , have secured to him the firm and fraternal attachment of every member . " It is very gratifying to us to record our sense of the deep interest which the distinguished lady , whose loss we deplore , evinced in our Masonic Charities , and the valuable services which , on many occasions , she rendered to the cause of our

venerable Order . " AVe humbly and earnestly pray the Divine influence , which alone can heal the wounded spirit , may shed its soothing rays on your lordship , and give you strength and consolation under this severe trial , and that your lordship ' s life may be prolonged for many years , and that the brethren may continue to enjoy the benefits of the wisdom , justice , and firmness , which have ever distinguished your rule over them . " A vote of thanks was then given to the D . Prov . G . M ., for his kind consideration in convening this especial Provincial Grand Lodge .

BRIGHTON . —Royal Clarence Lodge ( No . 271 ) . —This lodge held its usual monthly meeting on the 16 th inst ., Bro . John H . Scott , P . Prov . J . G . W ., W . M ., presiding . The following resolution was passed : — " That the sum of ten guineas be voted from the funds of the lodge towards the erection of the new building for the Royal Masonic Institution for Boys ; at the same time the members of this lodge desire to express their opinion that the expenditure of £ 30 , 000 has been extravagant and

unnecessarily large . " At the banquet , in proposing the health of the M . AV . G . M ., the Earl of Zetland , the W . M . said there are times , brethren , when these formal toasts are invested with more than ordinary interest , and I am quite sure that you will respond to this toast with more than usual feeling on this occasion , on account of the bereavement which the noble lord has recently sustained in the loss of his wife . Brethren , we are told that marriage is a lottery , but the severance of the marriage tie' by

death must always be a painful and trying moment to the survivor , whether the union has been happy or otherwise . If it has been happy , none but the widow or the widower can tell how heavily the blow has fallen ; if it has been unhappy , even then the moment of separation will be a time of sorrow , for with the feeling of release from a burden that has long been intolerable will come the recollection of tenderer feelings which once united them together , and bitter thoughts , not unmingled

with self reproach , that if there had been more consideration for each other , and less wilful provocation , less anger , petulence , and pride , how different it might all have been . With regard to our beloved and respected Grand Master , I am given to understand that he lived for more than forty years with his amiable countess on terms of the closest affection . I am quite sure , therefore , brethren that you will not withhold from him that full measure of sympathy which , as Masons , we are taught

" to pour into the bosom of the afflicted . " In reply to the toast of the W . M ., proposed by Bro . yen-all , P . M ., the W . M . said , I am very much obliged to you , brethren , for the kind manner in which you have responded to the toast . I have often told you that with me Masonry is hereditary , and being a Mason I have endeavoured to discharge the several duties which have devolved upon me during the course of my Masonic career to the best of my ability . During that time I . have often been quizzed by my un-Masonic friends , and asked how I could take so much interest

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BOYS' SCHOOL. Article 1
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 2
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 3
THE ILL. BRO. HYDE CLARKE, S.G.I.G. 33 ° OF FRANCE. Article 3
THE BOYS' SCHOOL. Article 4
Untitled Article 4
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 4
PROVINCIAL. Article 4
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 6
MARK MASONRY. Article 6
Untitled Article 6
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 7
INDIA. Article 7
Obituary. Article 8
BRO. CHARLES JAMES JEFFERYS. Article 9
LITERARY EXTRACTS. Article 9
THE WEEK. Article 9
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 12
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Provincial.

which was simply absurd and uncalled for , when there was always every reason to suppose that the appointment most suitable , as well as most pleasing , to the province would be made . He suggested that , if the lodge were anxious to testify their regard for Bro . Talbot , a congratulatory address upon his appointment might be prepared , which they would then be the first to offer . —Bro . DAEZIEI , P . S . W ., supported this view , and Bro . B . JENKINS , Dir . of Cers ., expressing an opinion that the

intimation of the new appointment having reached the brethren through the same channel as the resignation of the late Prov . G . M ., the lodge would be fully warranted in at once adopting the suggestion of the S . W . —Bro . THOKP concurred , and " proposed that a congratulatory address be prepared and presented to Bro . Theodore Mansel Talbot upon his appointment as Prov . G . M . of the province . —Bro . WAEE seconded the proposition , which was carried . —Bros . Pady and Neil were examined in the

E . A . degree , and , having given satisfactory proof of their progress , were passed to the F . C . degree . Lodge having been closed down , Mr . Jno . Thomas was introduced and initiated into the E . A . degree in due form and according to ancient custom , the ceremony being fully and ably performed by the W . M ., and the charge very impressively delivered by Bro . Davies , S . D . There being no other business , the lodge was closed in perfect harmony at 10 o ' clock .

Glamorgan Lodge ( No . 36 ) . —On Friday , 16 th inst ., a lodge of emergency was convened to take into consideration the following matters : —A vote of condolence with the M . W . G . M ., The Earl of Zetland , on the death of the Countess of Zetland . An address to Colonel C . K . Kemys-Tynte , on his resignation of the office of Prov . Grand Master for the Eastern Division of South Wales . An address to the M . W . G . M . praying him to appoint Bro . Theodore Mansel

, Talbot , to the vacant office of P . G . M ., and to pass resolutions accordingly . Lodge was opened at eight o'clock , p . m ., a lodge of instruction having been previously held . Present , Bros . D . Roberts , W . M . ; T . II . Stephens , S . W . ; R . P . Hunt , J . W . ; E . J . Thomas , Treas . ; R . J . Fisher , Sec ; T . G , Glass , S . D . ^ ro tern . ; F . Ware , J . D . pro tern . ; W . Robertson , I . G . ; 1 ST . B . Calder , P . M . ; W . H . Martin , W . M . 960 ; W . J . Gaskell , P . M . ;

R . F . Langley , P . M ., & c . The W . Master proposed and Bro . Calder seconded a suitable address to the Grand Master in relation to the painful bereavement he has sustained . ( Carried unanimously ) . Bro . Ware inquired if any official intimation had been received relative to the reported resignation of Col . Tynte , and the appointment of his successor to the office of Prov . Grand Masterannouncements to that effect having

, gone the round of the public press . The W . Master replied in the negative , and some surprise was expressed at the discourtesy and neglect with which the province appeared to have been treated in the matter ; nevertheless Bro . Gaskell proposed and Bro . Thomas seconded an address to Bro . Tynte upon the resignation which the brethren had casually heard of , Avhich

was carried without dissent . Bro . Langley stated that although no official information had reached them of the fact , yet it was pretty well known , and had also been reported in the papers , that Bro . Talbot had been appointed to the office rendered vacant by the retirement of the Prov . G . Master . It would be therefore unnecessary to consider the propriety of adopting the suggestion contained in the last paragraph of the summons , instead of which he had prepared an address of congratulation

to Bro . Talbot upon his appointment , which he read and proposed . Bro . Stephens said that if anything might emanate from so benighted a region as the " West / ' he should have much pleasure in seconding the proposition , which lie did in some pertinent remarks , ably supported by Bro . Hunt , J . W . Bro . Ware said that although strictly speaking the proposition was out of ordernot appearing in the summons for a lod of

, ge emergency , ho should have much pleasure in supporting it , viewing it as a happy release from the discussion of a very delicate question involved in the last suggestion of the lodge summons . He and others entertained the opinion that to have joined other lodges in an attempt to interfere with the prerogative of the Grand Master , when it was always well known that the brother whom they all desired to see in the office was

about to be appointed ; to " petition" in favour of the brother whom they had every reason to suppose was actually nominated by the retiring Prov . G . M . as his successor , would have been a piece of " toadyism , " offensive to the object and degrading to the lodge . The address was then agreed to unanimously , and there being no further business the lodge was closed in perfect harmony at nine o ' clock .

SUSSEX . PKOA - INCIAI , GBAND LODGE . An especial Provincial Grand Lodge was held at Brighton on Monday , the 12 th inst ., to vote an address of condolence for presentation to the Earl of Zetland , M . W . Grand Master of England , on the occasion of his lordship ' s late domestic bereavement . The W . Bro . Colonel G . C . Dalbiac , D . Prov . G . M .,

presided . There was a largo attendance of Present and Past Provincial Officers , also of WM . ' s , P . M . 's , and members of the Provincial Grand Lodge . The following address was unanimously agreed upon : — " Most Worshipful Grand Master , —We , the Deputy Grand Master , officers , and members of the Provincial Grand Lodge of Sussexbegwith every feeling of respect and esteemto

, , , offer to your lordship our sincere and fraternal condolence under your recent severe bereavement . " Though we are fully sensible that no human power can remove the weight of affliction which , by Divine Will , has fallen upon your lordship , Ave trust that we may in some degree alleviate it , by joining with our brethren in expressing our heartfelt sympathin the grief of one whose uniform kindness

y and urbanity , as well as zealous devotion to the welfare of the Craft , have secured to him the firm and fraternal attachment of every member . " It is very gratifying to us to record our sense of the deep interest which the distinguished lady , whose loss we deplore , evinced in our Masonic Charities , and the valuable services which , on many occasions , she rendered to the cause of our

venerable Order . " AVe humbly and earnestly pray the Divine influence , which alone can heal the wounded spirit , may shed its soothing rays on your lordship , and give you strength and consolation under this severe trial , and that your lordship ' s life may be prolonged for many years , and that the brethren may continue to enjoy the benefits of the wisdom , justice , and firmness , which have ever distinguished your rule over them . " A vote of thanks was then given to the D . Prov . G . M ., for his kind consideration in convening this especial Provincial Grand Lodge .

BRIGHTON . —Royal Clarence Lodge ( No . 271 ) . —This lodge held its usual monthly meeting on the 16 th inst ., Bro . John H . Scott , P . Prov . J . G . W ., W . M ., presiding . The following resolution was passed : — " That the sum of ten guineas be voted from the funds of the lodge towards the erection of the new building for the Royal Masonic Institution for Boys ; at the same time the members of this lodge desire to express their opinion that the expenditure of £ 30 , 000 has been extravagant and

unnecessarily large . " At the banquet , in proposing the health of the M . AV . G . M ., the Earl of Zetland , the W . M . said there are times , brethren , when these formal toasts are invested with more than ordinary interest , and I am quite sure that you will respond to this toast with more than usual feeling on this occasion , on account of the bereavement which the noble lord has recently sustained in the loss of his wife . Brethren , we are told that marriage is a lottery , but the severance of the marriage tie' by

death must always be a painful and trying moment to the survivor , whether the union has been happy or otherwise . If it has been happy , none but the widow or the widower can tell how heavily the blow has fallen ; if it has been unhappy , even then the moment of separation will be a time of sorrow , for with the feeling of release from a burden that has long been intolerable will come the recollection of tenderer feelings which once united them together , and bitter thoughts , not unmingled

with self reproach , that if there had been more consideration for each other , and less wilful provocation , less anger , petulence , and pride , how different it might all have been . With regard to our beloved and respected Grand Master , I am given to understand that he lived for more than forty years with his amiable countess on terms of the closest affection . I am quite sure , therefore , brethren that you will not withhold from him that full measure of sympathy which , as Masons , we are taught

" to pour into the bosom of the afflicted . " In reply to the toast of the W . M ., proposed by Bro . yen-all , P . M ., the W . M . said , I am very much obliged to you , brethren , for the kind manner in which you have responded to the toast . I have often told you that with me Masonry is hereditary , and being a Mason I have endeavoured to discharge the several duties which have devolved upon me during the course of my Masonic career to the best of my ability . During that time I . have often been quizzed by my un-Masonic friends , and asked how I could take so much interest

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