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Monthly Chronicle.

I need not observe , that all the equivalents proposed , however inadequate to the exchange , were offered as a return for our consent that the Netherlands should remain part of France ; of course , the admitting them in any shape would have been in direct contradiction to my instructions . M . Delacroix touched very slightly on Italy , and the course of our conversation did not bring this part of the subject more into discussion . I must add , that whenever I mentioned the restoration of the Netherlands to the Emperor , 1 always took care it should be understood that these were to be

accompanied by such further cessions as should form a competent line of defence , and that France could not be permitted to keep possession of all the intermediate country to the Rhine ; and I particularly dwelt on this point , -when I held out the possibility of admitting an extension of the limits of France on the side of Germany . But as the French Minister no less strenuously opposed the restitution of the Netherlands to the Emperor , than I tenaciously insisted upon it , the further extension of my claim could not of course become a subject of argument . I believe I have nowwith a tolerable degree of accuracyinformed your

Lord-, , ship of all that the French Ministersaid on my opening myself to him on that part of my instructions which more immediately relates to Peace between Great Britain , his Imperial Majesty , and France . It remains with me to inform your Lordship what passed between us on the subject of our respective allies . On the article reserving a right to the Court of St . Petersburgh , and to that of Lisbon , to accede to the Treaty of Peace on the strict status ante helium , the French Minister made no otherremark , than by mentioning the Allies , of the Republic , and by enquiring whether I was prepared to say any thing relative to their interests ,

which certainly the Republic could never abandon . This afforded me the opportunity of giving in the confidential Memorial B . relative to Spain and . Holland , and I prefaced it by repeating to him the substance of the first part of your Lordship's No . 12 . Although I had touched upon the subject of the Spanish part of St . Domingo , when I had been speaking to M . Delacroix on the peace with France , yet , as it did not become a matter of discussion between us till I came to mention the Peace

with Spain , I thought it better to place all that passed on that subject in this part of my dispatch ; it was the only point on which be entered ; 'but I by no means infer from his not bringing forward some claims for Spain , that we are not to hear ofany in the ' course of the Negotiation ; on the contrary , I have little doubt that many , and most of them inadmissible , will be made before it can end . He , however , was silent on them , at this moment ; and confined all he had to say to combating the idea that Spain was bound by the Treaty of Utrecht not to alienate her possessions in America . I had the Article copied in my pocket , and I read it

tohim . He confessed it was clear and explicit , but that circumstances had so materially altered since the year 1713 , that engagements made then ought not to be considered ns in force now . I said that the spirit of the Article itself went to provide for distant contingencies , not for what was expected to happen at or near the time when the Treaty was made ; and that it was because the alteration of circcmstarrces he alluded to , was foreseen as possible , that the clause was inserted ; ami if Spain paid any regard to the faith of Treaties , she must consider herself as no less strictly bound by this clause nowthan at the moment when it was drawn up .

, I went on by saying , that it did not , however , appear quite impossible that this point might be settled without , much difficulty ; and that means might be devised that his Catholic Majesty should not break his faith , and both England and France be equally satisfied . I then held out to him , but in general terms , that either Spain might regain her part of St . Domingo , by making some considerable cession to Great Britain and France , as the price of Peace , or that , in return for leaving the whole of St . Domingo to France , we should retain either Marrinico or St . Lucia and Tobago . M . Delacroix listened with a degree of attention to these proposals ,

¦ but he was fearful of committing himself by any expression of approbation , and he dismissed the subject of the Court of Madrid , by observing , that France never would forsake the interests of its allies . Our conversation on these of its other ally , Holland , was much longer , as the Memorial inevitably led at once deep into Ihe subject . M . Delacroix affected to II eat anv deviation from the Treaty of Pence between France and that country , or my restoration of terrhoriss acquired under that Treaty to France , as quite im-

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LONDON: Article 3
THE PROPRIETOR TO THE SUBSCRIBERS. Article 4
TO READERS, CORRESPONDENTS, &c. Article 5
THE SCIENTIFIC MAGAZINE, AND FREEMASONS' REPOSITORY, FOR JANUARY 1797. Article 6
ON SUICIDE AND MADNESS. Article 14
TO THE EDITOR OF THE SCIENTIFIC MAGAZINE. Article 16
THE GHOST OF STERNE IN LONDON. Article 20
ESSAYS ON SUBJECTS CONNECTED WITH HISTORY AND CLASSICAL LEARNING. Article 24
LETTERS FROM LORD ESSEX TO QUEEN ELIZABETH. Article 31
THE DYING MIRA, A FRAGMENT. Article 32
ANECDOTES. Article 33
REMARKABLE RESEMBLANCE IN TWO TWIN BROTHERS. Article 35
SINGULAR INSTANCE OF A CAPACITY TO ENDURE ABSTINENCE AND HUNGER IN A SPIDER. Article 36
ABSENCE OF MIND. Article 37
FREEMASONS' REPOSITORY. Article 38
MASONRY FOUNDED ON SCRIPTURE. Article 38
ROYAL CUMBERLAND SCHOOL. Article 43
TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' REPOSITORY. Article 45
MASONIC INTELLIGENCE. Article 45
REVIEW OF NEW PUBLICATIONS. Article 46
POETRY. Article 54
THE AFFLICTED PARENTS, AN ELEGY Article 54
TO THE MEMORY OF LAURA. Article 55
ODE ON CLASSIC DISCIPLINE. Article 55
LINES Article 56
IMITATION OF SHAKSPEAR, Article 56
SONNET. Article 57
TO THE GLOW-WORM. Article 57
SONG. Article 57
EPITAPH ON A BEAUTIFUL BOY. Article 57
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 58
REPORT OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE BRITISH PARLIAMENT. Article 60
HOUSE OF COMMONS. Article 60
MONTHLY CHRONICLE. Article 66
OBITUARY. Article 75
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Monthly Chronicle.

I need not observe , that all the equivalents proposed , however inadequate to the exchange , were offered as a return for our consent that the Netherlands should remain part of France ; of course , the admitting them in any shape would have been in direct contradiction to my instructions . M . Delacroix touched very slightly on Italy , and the course of our conversation did not bring this part of the subject more into discussion . I must add , that whenever I mentioned the restoration of the Netherlands to the Emperor , 1 always took care it should be understood that these were to be

accompanied by such further cessions as should form a competent line of defence , and that France could not be permitted to keep possession of all the intermediate country to the Rhine ; and I particularly dwelt on this point , -when I held out the possibility of admitting an extension of the limits of France on the side of Germany . But as the French Minister no less strenuously opposed the restitution of the Netherlands to the Emperor , than I tenaciously insisted upon it , the further extension of my claim could not of course become a subject of argument . I believe I have nowwith a tolerable degree of accuracyinformed your

Lord-, , ship of all that the French Ministersaid on my opening myself to him on that part of my instructions which more immediately relates to Peace between Great Britain , his Imperial Majesty , and France . It remains with me to inform your Lordship what passed between us on the subject of our respective allies . On the article reserving a right to the Court of St . Petersburgh , and to that of Lisbon , to accede to the Treaty of Peace on the strict status ante helium , the French Minister made no otherremark , than by mentioning the Allies , of the Republic , and by enquiring whether I was prepared to say any thing relative to their interests ,

which certainly the Republic could never abandon . This afforded me the opportunity of giving in the confidential Memorial B . relative to Spain and . Holland , and I prefaced it by repeating to him the substance of the first part of your Lordship's No . 12 . Although I had touched upon the subject of the Spanish part of St . Domingo , when I had been speaking to M . Delacroix on the peace with France , yet , as it did not become a matter of discussion between us till I came to mention the Peace

with Spain , I thought it better to place all that passed on that subject in this part of my dispatch ; it was the only point on which be entered ; 'but I by no means infer from his not bringing forward some claims for Spain , that we are not to hear ofany in the ' course of the Negotiation ; on the contrary , I have little doubt that many , and most of them inadmissible , will be made before it can end . He , however , was silent on them , at this moment ; and confined all he had to say to combating the idea that Spain was bound by the Treaty of Utrecht not to alienate her possessions in America . I had the Article copied in my pocket , and I read it

tohim . He confessed it was clear and explicit , but that circumstances had so materially altered since the year 1713 , that engagements made then ought not to be considered ns in force now . I said that the spirit of the Article itself went to provide for distant contingencies , not for what was expected to happen at or near the time when the Treaty was made ; and that it was because the alteration of circcmstarrces he alluded to , was foreseen as possible , that the clause was inserted ; ami if Spain paid any regard to the faith of Treaties , she must consider herself as no less strictly bound by this clause nowthan at the moment when it was drawn up .

, I went on by saying , that it did not , however , appear quite impossible that this point might be settled without , much difficulty ; and that means might be devised that his Catholic Majesty should not break his faith , and both England and France be equally satisfied . I then held out to him , but in general terms , that either Spain might regain her part of St . Domingo , by making some considerable cession to Great Britain and France , as the price of Peace , or that , in return for leaving the whole of St . Domingo to France , we should retain either Marrinico or St . Lucia and Tobago . M . Delacroix listened with a degree of attention to these proposals ,

¦ but he was fearful of committing himself by any expression of approbation , and he dismissed the subject of the Court of Madrid , by observing , that France never would forsake the interests of its allies . Our conversation on these of its other ally , Holland , was much longer , as the Memorial inevitably led at once deep into Ihe subject . M . Delacroix affected to II eat anv deviation from the Treaty of Pence between France and that country , or my restoration of terrhoriss acquired under that Treaty to France , as quite im-

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