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Monthly Chronicle.

practicable . Hetreated as equally impracticable any attempt at restonngthe ancient form of government in the seven United Provinces . He talked wilh an air of triumph of the establishment of a National Convention at the Hague , and with an affectation of feeling , that by it the cause of freedom had extended itself over such a large number of people . He , however , was ready to confess , that from the great losses the Dutch Republic had sustained in its colonies , and particularly from the weak manner in which they had defended them , it could not be expected that his Majesty would consent to a full and complete restitution of them , and that

it was reasonable , that some should be sacrificed ; and he asked me if I could inform him how far our views extended on this point ? I said , I had reason to believe that what his Majesty would require would . be possessions and settlements which would not add to the wealth of our Indian dominions , but only tend to secure to us their safe and unmolested possession . You mean by this , said M . Delacroix , the Cape and Tnncomale ? I said , they certainly came under that description ; and I saw little prospect of their being restored to the'Du . tch . M . Delacroix launched forth on this into a most laboured dissertation on the value ot the

Cape of Good Hope , which he did not consider at all as a port derelache , but as a possession which , in our hands , would become one of the mosf fertile and most productive colonies in the east ; and , according to his estimation of it , he did not scruple to assert , that it would ultimately be an acquisition of infinitely greater importance to England than that of the Netherlands to France ; and , if acquiesced in , should be reckoned as a full and ample compensation for them . He added , ' if you are masters of the Cape and Trincomale , we shall hold all our settlements : in India , and the islands of France and Bourbon , entirely at the tenure of

your will and pleasure ; they will be ours only as long as you choose we should retain them . You will be sole masters in India , and we shall be entirely dependent uponj'ou . " I repeated to him , that it was as means of defence , not of offence , that these possessions would be insisted on ; and that , if the matter was fairly and dispassionately discussed , he would find that they afforded us a great additional security , but no additional power of attack , even if we were disposed to disturb the peace of that part of the world . If these , and perhaps some few other not very material settlements belonging to the Dutch , were to be insisted upon , and if he would be pleased to enumerate all we should still have to restore / to them , while they had nothing to restore to England , it was imposssible not to con . sider the terms on which his Majesty proposed peace to Holland as generous and liberal .

M . Delacroix was not at all disposed to agree with me on this point ; and said , Holland , stript of these possessions , would be ruined . He then held out , but as if the idea hadjust crossed his mind , the possibility of indemnifying the Dutch for their losses in India , by giving them a tract of territory towards the Meuse ( I could not find out whether he meant Aix-la-Chapelle , Liege , or the countries of . Tuiiers and Berg ) , and hinted , that if this , was not to be done , an additional Sugar Island might , perhaps , be ceded to the Dutch Republic . I told him all this might become a subject of future discussion ; and I conceived , that if \ ve could agree upon the

more essential points , the Treaty would not break oiion those secondary considerations . Our conversation had now been extremely long , and M . Delacroix ended by saying , that , although he had taken upon himself to enter with me thus far upon the subject , yet I must not consider any thing he said as binding , or as pledging the Republic , till such time as he had laid the papers 1 had given him before the I « : rectory ; and , hi order to do this with more accuracy , he again asked me , whether , in his report , he was to slate the disuniting Belgium from France as nsinc qua non from which his Majesty would not depart ? I replied , it most certainly was a

sine qua non from which his Majesty would not depart ; and that any proposal which would leave the Netherlands annexed to France would be attended with much greater benefit to that power , aud loss to the allies , than the present relative situation of the Belligerent powers could entitle the French Government to expect . M . Delacroix repeated his concern at the peremptory way in which 1 made this assertion , and asked , whether it would admit of no modification ?—I replied , if Fiance could , in a conlreprojel , point out a practicable and adequate one , still keeping in view , that the Netherlands must not belong lo or be likely again to fall into the hands of France , such a proposal might certainly be taken into consideration . M . Delacroix by no means encouraged me to explain myself more fully ;

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LONDON: Article 3
THE PROPRIETOR TO THE SUBSCRIBERS. Article 4
TO READERS, CORRESPONDENTS, &c. Article 5
THE SCIENTIFIC MAGAZINE, AND FREEMASONS' REPOSITORY, FOR JANUARY 1797. Article 6
ON SUICIDE AND MADNESS. Article 14
TO THE EDITOR OF THE SCIENTIFIC MAGAZINE. Article 16
THE GHOST OF STERNE IN LONDON. Article 20
ESSAYS ON SUBJECTS CONNECTED WITH HISTORY AND CLASSICAL LEARNING. Article 24
LETTERS FROM LORD ESSEX TO QUEEN ELIZABETH. Article 31
THE DYING MIRA, A FRAGMENT. Article 32
ANECDOTES. Article 33
REMARKABLE RESEMBLANCE IN TWO TWIN BROTHERS. Article 35
SINGULAR INSTANCE OF A CAPACITY TO ENDURE ABSTINENCE AND HUNGER IN A SPIDER. Article 36
ABSENCE OF MIND. Article 37
FREEMASONS' REPOSITORY. Article 38
MASONRY FOUNDED ON SCRIPTURE. Article 38
ROYAL CUMBERLAND SCHOOL. Article 43
TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' REPOSITORY. Article 45
MASONIC INTELLIGENCE. Article 45
REVIEW OF NEW PUBLICATIONS. Article 46
POETRY. Article 54
THE AFFLICTED PARENTS, AN ELEGY Article 54
TO THE MEMORY OF LAURA. Article 55
ODE ON CLASSIC DISCIPLINE. Article 55
LINES Article 56
IMITATION OF SHAKSPEAR, Article 56
SONNET. Article 57
TO THE GLOW-WORM. Article 57
SONG. Article 57
EPITAPH ON A BEAUTIFUL BOY. Article 57
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 58
REPORT OF THE PROCEEDINGS OF THE BRITISH PARLIAMENT. Article 60
HOUSE OF COMMONS. Article 60
MONTHLY CHRONICLE. Article 66
OBITUARY. Article 75
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Monthly Chronicle.

practicable . Hetreated as equally impracticable any attempt at restonngthe ancient form of government in the seven United Provinces . He talked wilh an air of triumph of the establishment of a National Convention at the Hague , and with an affectation of feeling , that by it the cause of freedom had extended itself over such a large number of people . He , however , was ready to confess , that from the great losses the Dutch Republic had sustained in its colonies , and particularly from the weak manner in which they had defended them , it could not be expected that his Majesty would consent to a full and complete restitution of them , and that

it was reasonable , that some should be sacrificed ; and he asked me if I could inform him how far our views extended on this point ? I said , I had reason to believe that what his Majesty would require would . be possessions and settlements which would not add to the wealth of our Indian dominions , but only tend to secure to us their safe and unmolested possession . You mean by this , said M . Delacroix , the Cape and Tnncomale ? I said , they certainly came under that description ; and I saw little prospect of their being restored to the'Du . tch . M . Delacroix launched forth on this into a most laboured dissertation on the value ot the

Cape of Good Hope , which he did not consider at all as a port derelache , but as a possession which , in our hands , would become one of the mosf fertile and most productive colonies in the east ; and , according to his estimation of it , he did not scruple to assert , that it would ultimately be an acquisition of infinitely greater importance to England than that of the Netherlands to France ; and , if acquiesced in , should be reckoned as a full and ample compensation for them . He added , ' if you are masters of the Cape and Trincomale , we shall hold all our settlements : in India , and the islands of France and Bourbon , entirely at the tenure of

your will and pleasure ; they will be ours only as long as you choose we should retain them . You will be sole masters in India , and we shall be entirely dependent uponj'ou . " I repeated to him , that it was as means of defence , not of offence , that these possessions would be insisted on ; and that , if the matter was fairly and dispassionately discussed , he would find that they afforded us a great additional security , but no additional power of attack , even if we were disposed to disturb the peace of that part of the world . If these , and perhaps some few other not very material settlements belonging to the Dutch , were to be insisted upon , and if he would be pleased to enumerate all we should still have to restore / to them , while they had nothing to restore to England , it was imposssible not to con . sider the terms on which his Majesty proposed peace to Holland as generous and liberal .

M . Delacroix was not at all disposed to agree with me on this point ; and said , Holland , stript of these possessions , would be ruined . He then held out , but as if the idea hadjust crossed his mind , the possibility of indemnifying the Dutch for their losses in India , by giving them a tract of territory towards the Meuse ( I could not find out whether he meant Aix-la-Chapelle , Liege , or the countries of . Tuiiers and Berg ) , and hinted , that if this , was not to be done , an additional Sugar Island might , perhaps , be ceded to the Dutch Republic . I told him all this might become a subject of future discussion ; and I conceived , that if \ ve could agree upon the

more essential points , the Treaty would not break oiion those secondary considerations . Our conversation had now been extremely long , and M . Delacroix ended by saying , that , although he had taken upon himself to enter with me thus far upon the subject , yet I must not consider any thing he said as binding , or as pledging the Republic , till such time as he had laid the papers 1 had given him before the I « : rectory ; and , hi order to do this with more accuracy , he again asked me , whether , in his report , he was to slate the disuniting Belgium from France as nsinc qua non from which his Majesty would not depart ? I replied , it most certainly was a

sine qua non from which his Majesty would not depart ; and that any proposal which would leave the Netherlands annexed to France would be attended with much greater benefit to that power , aud loss to the allies , than the present relative situation of the Belligerent powers could entitle the French Government to expect . M . Delacroix repeated his concern at the peremptory way in which 1 made this assertion , and asked , whether it would admit of no modification ?—I replied , if Fiance could , in a conlreprojel , point out a practicable and adequate one , still keeping in view , that the Netherlands must not belong lo or be likely again to fall into the hands of France , such a proposal might certainly be taken into consideration . M . Delacroix by no means encouraged me to explain myself more fully ;

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