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Article UNITED GRAND LODGE OF ENGLAND. ← Page 3 of 12 →
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United Grand Lodge Of England.
vote , the merits of which they did not know , but which they might be easil y induced to confirm or reject ; this was of so dangerous a tendency , and opening the door for the admission of so much personal feeling , that he was sure the brethren would pause , ancl reject such a very questionable proposal , giving as it would to a few the means of using their power tyranically ; he believed Grand Lodge would agree unanimously to his amendmentand hacl therefore asked no one to
, second it . Bro . B . S . Phillips seconded the amendment . The GRAND MASTER concurred in what hacl just been stated ; he ( and he had no doubt his successors also ) would take all the responsibilities attached to the office he had the honour to fill , ancl any other responsibility the Grand Lodge might place upon it , but where such increased duties were uncalled for it would be as well to avoid them ; he
should act , when called upon by the law to decide the case of a petitioner , as fairly as his judgment would allow—but he must admit it would place the Grancl Master in but an indifferent position if he were to refuse relief when it hacl been voted by two consecutive Boards of Benevolence , yet he might consider himself in justice bound to clo so . It was for Grand Lodge to decide this question , but he believed the amendment met the difficulty which had heretofore existed . Bro . Humfrey supported the original motion . Bro . HAVERS rose to make an enquiry , which was , whether the proposer of the amendment meant all grants of the Board , or grants of
twenty to fifty pounds ? f _ A conversation hereupon ensued , which ended by Bro . Havers expressing his satisfaction at having made enquiry , by which he had elicited what really was intended , not to curtail the Granil Master ' s present prerogative . He saw no objection to the amendment ] . Bro . M'MULLEN would propose an amendment to the effect , that if a vote passed the Board of Benevolence , the money might be paid when sanctioned by the Grand Master . The question of order was then discussedas to the power of an
, amendment being moved on an amendment . Bro . M'Mullen arguing , if the amendment of Bro . Savage was carried , it would decide and close the debate ; Bros . Savage and Dobie held different opinions . The GRAND MASTER decided , that the practice in the House of Commons was to adopt the amendment as part of the original motion , ancl the resolution was , that all the words after " that" be omitted , ancl those of the amendment be substituted to stand part of the original motion ;
this was always done in the House of Commons , with the forms of which he was well acquainted , from twenty years' experience ; he could not say what was the custom in the House of Lords , for their system was so irregular , that he defied any one , however attentive he might be , to ascertain correctly—he should , therefore , put the question in the shape he had held to be regular , and then any brother could put in an amendment , which course could be continued as much as they liked , and
propose as many amendments as they thought proper . The amendment was then unanimously carried to stand part of the original motion . Bro . M'Mullen ' s amendment was then proposed , but only two hands held up for it . THE RED APRON . Bro . BIGG ' motion for an alteration in the appointment of Grand Stewards , being next on the list , was then taken . The brother , in a VOL . vi . z ¦* -
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United Grand Lodge Of England.
vote , the merits of which they did not know , but which they might be easil y induced to confirm or reject ; this was of so dangerous a tendency , and opening the door for the admission of so much personal feeling , that he was sure the brethren would pause , ancl reject such a very questionable proposal , giving as it would to a few the means of using their power tyranically ; he believed Grand Lodge would agree unanimously to his amendmentand hacl therefore asked no one to
, second it . Bro . B . S . Phillips seconded the amendment . The GRAND MASTER concurred in what hacl just been stated ; he ( and he had no doubt his successors also ) would take all the responsibilities attached to the office he had the honour to fill , ancl any other responsibility the Grand Lodge might place upon it , but where such increased duties were uncalled for it would be as well to avoid them ; he
should act , when called upon by the law to decide the case of a petitioner , as fairly as his judgment would allow—but he must admit it would place the Grancl Master in but an indifferent position if he were to refuse relief when it hacl been voted by two consecutive Boards of Benevolence , yet he might consider himself in justice bound to clo so . It was for Grand Lodge to decide this question , but he believed the amendment met the difficulty which had heretofore existed . Bro . Humfrey supported the original motion . Bro . HAVERS rose to make an enquiry , which was , whether the proposer of the amendment meant all grants of the Board , or grants of
twenty to fifty pounds ? f _ A conversation hereupon ensued , which ended by Bro . Havers expressing his satisfaction at having made enquiry , by which he had elicited what really was intended , not to curtail the Granil Master ' s present prerogative . He saw no objection to the amendment ] . Bro . M'MULLEN would propose an amendment to the effect , that if a vote passed the Board of Benevolence , the money might be paid when sanctioned by the Grand Master . The question of order was then discussedas to the power of an
, amendment being moved on an amendment . Bro . M'Mullen arguing , if the amendment of Bro . Savage was carried , it would decide and close the debate ; Bros . Savage and Dobie held different opinions . The GRAND MASTER decided , that the practice in the House of Commons was to adopt the amendment as part of the original motion , ancl the resolution was , that all the words after " that" be omitted , ancl those of the amendment be substituted to stand part of the original motion ;
this was always done in the House of Commons , with the forms of which he was well acquainted , from twenty years' experience ; he could not say what was the custom in the House of Lords , for their system was so irregular , that he defied any one , however attentive he might be , to ascertain correctly—he should , therefore , put the question in the shape he had held to be regular , and then any brother could put in an amendment , which course could be continued as much as they liked , and
propose as many amendments as they thought proper . The amendment was then unanimously carried to stand part of the original motion . Bro . M'Mullen ' s amendment was then proposed , but only two hands held up for it . THE RED APRON . Bro . BIGG ' motion for an alteration in the appointment of Grand Stewards , being next on the list , was then taken . The brother , in a VOL . vi . z ¦* -