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Multum In Parbo; Or Masonic Notes And Quaries.

" i . Queen ' s Arms , St . Paul ' s Church Yard , the West India and American Lodge , 2 nd Wednesday ; 4 th , a Master's Lodge . " 2 . Horn , Westminster , 2 nd Thursday . These two constituted time immemorial . " Now the figures evidently represent the numbers of the Lodges , which , we presume ( though the Lodges are not

named ) , are identical with the Lodge of Antiquity , London ( which was No . 1 , under the "Moderns" ) , and Somerset House Lodge ( which was No . 2 , same jurisdiction ) . These Lodges are still in existence , are the only English Lodges working from time immemorial , and are numbered now 2 and 4 on the Register of the United Grand Lodge of England , as we learn from Bro . Hughan's " Memorials of the

Union of 1813 , " which wc have reviewed at length in this issue of The Keystone . The names , " Queen ' s Arms " and " Horn , " evidently were the names of the Taverns where these Lodges held their meetings . But what is the meaning of thc descriptive clause , " Thc West-India and American Lodge , " attached to Lodge No . 1 , now , probably , the Lodge of Antiquity , and the oldest

Lodge under the Grand Lodge of England ? Will Bro . Wm . Jas . Hughan , or Bro . A . F . A . Woodford ( both of whom are skilled Masonic Archaeologists ) favour us with an explanation of these mysterious words ? As Americans , we would be proud to be connected , even in name , with thc

oldest English Lodge in the world , working by Immemorial Constitution , without Charter ! We should be glad to know , also , the title of this Masonic publication of A . D . ijr $ 9 or 1760 . The foregoing is from The Keystone , and Bro . Hughan has made the following reply to thc interesting

communication : — " Dear Bro . McCalla , — " I have not yet discovered the title of the book containing the List of Lodges to which you refer , but thc other query is easily settled by reference to other lists of a similar date . In a MS . I have a copy of , now in thc possession of Bro . J . F . Spurr , P . M . 200 , Scarborough , entitled

'A New and Correct List of all the Regular Lodges in Europe , Asia , Africa , and America , according to their Seniority and Constitution , by Order of the Grand Master , brought down to April 19 th , 1765 , " the first lodge mentioned is : " 1 , Queen ' s Arms , St . Paul's Church Yard , 2 nd Wednesday . Constituted time Immemorial . Every 4 th

Wednesday there is a Master's Lodge . It is also thc West-India and American Lodge . " In Cole's engraved List of Lodges of 1768 , entitled , "A List of Regular Lodges according to their Seniority and Constitution , by Order of the Grand Master , printed for , and Sold by William Cole , Engraver and Copper-plate Printer , opposite Warwick Lane in Newgate Street , " I find thc following :

1 . —The West India and 2 nd . Wedy . Constituted American Lodge at the The 4 th , a time Queen ' s Arms in St . Paul's Master ' s Immemorial Churchyard . Lodge .

It is evident , therefore , that the " Lodge of Antiquity , " then No . 1 ( now No . 2 ) , to which these references are made , was partly composed of brethren originally hailing from West India and America , or connected commercially with these Countries , or obtained many of their candidates from West India and America , through gentlemen from those regions when in London choosing that ancient lodge in which first to see the "Light . "

I have searched many other Lists of Lodges , but no allusion is made in them to West India or America in connection with No . i . However , it is quite clear that many brethren who were , in all probability , West India and American Merchants , joined the Lodgeof Antiquity , London , about 1760 , to give rise to such a description of that ancient lodge , and hence assisted in securing its prosperity , which happily has continued to the present day . Long may it continue . Fraternally yours , WILLIAM JAMES HUGHAN . Truro , 30 th Jan ., 1875 .

Freemasons And The Ultramontanes.

FREEMASONS AND THE ULTRAMONTANES .

We are requested to publish the following correspondence : — To thc Right Hon . Gathorne Hardy , M . P ., H . M . Secretary of State for War . Sir , —I am to crave the liberty of drawing your attention to the case of a Non-commissioned Officer being

refused ecclesiastical burial at Chatham , simply because he was a Freemason . The case is that of Armourer-Sergeant J . V . Johnstone , of the 82 nd Regiment , a Roman Catholic , who died in Fort Pitt Hospital . I enclose an extract from the military and naval intelligence of the Times of 5 th Feb . last , * and also a copy of a letter from the Roman Catholic Chaplain which appeared in the same newspaper

on the 14 th of Feb . last , explaining the ground on which he refused to give ecclesiastical burial . The case would have been brought to your notice early in the session , by a member of the House of Commons , but the press of business was so great that he was unable to get a fit opportunity of stating the case to the House . It was then considered advisable to wait the decision of

the Judicial Committee ' of the Privy Council in a cause from Lower Canada , of a Roman Catholic priest refusing ecclesiastical burial to one named Guibord , because he was a member of a purely scientific and literary institute . The decision on that cause has now been given . Their Lordships hold that ecclesiastical burial is a civil ri ght and

ought to be protected . I hey say— ' It cannot be denied on the evidence that this qualification of the general ri ght of interment , this separation of the grave from the ordinary place of sepulture , implies degradation , not to say infamy ;' and their Lordships have accordingly ordered the Cure to give ecclesiastical burial as demanded b y Guibord ' s representatives , I send herewith a full cony of thc iudg-

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ment , as published in the Hour newspaper of the 1 st inst . I am respectfully to rcjiresent , that if the principal appellate court in the realm protects the ecclesiastical burial of one of her Majesty ' s subjects in Canada , it is surely right that a soldier of tlie British army should be equally protected . The Roman Catholic Chaplain holds his commission to perform certain duties to her Majesty's soldiers

of the Roman Catholic religion , and is it possible that any foreign consideration could be allowed to justify the nonperformance of that duty ? Moreover , the Association of Freemasons is a loyal and patriotic body of men , banded together to maintain the common rights of humanity , and is specially protected by Act of Parliament . I am , therefore , to express the hope that such moral

degradation and civil injury as is implied by the refusal of ecclesiastical burial in the case referred to , shall not be allowed to be inflicted on a British soldier because he may happen to be a Freemason ; and that no commissioned chaplain of her Majesty ' s forces shall be permitted , on anyalleged spiritual ground , to supersede the duty which he owes to her Majesty ' s service .

May I crave your early , attention to this important matter ? I have the honour to be , sir , your obedient servant , G . R . BADENOCII , Sec . Protestant Educational Institute , 12 , Haymarket , London , S . W . 10 th December , 1874 .

War Office , Pall Mall , nth January , 1875 . Sir , —I am directed by Mr . Secretary Hardy to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of 10 th ult ., calling attention to thc case of the late Armourer-Sergeant Johnstone , 82 nd Foot , at Chatham . In reply I am to acquaint you that the circumstances of the Canadian case quoted by you were , in Mr . Hardy's

opinion , essentially different from those of the Chatham case ; and , moreover , that the principles on which the judgment of the Privy Council in the Canadian case was based appear to Mr . Hardy to render it very difficult , if not impossible , for him to interfere in a matter such as that now brought to his notice . I am , sir , your obedient servant , RALPH THOMPSON .

To the Right Hon . Gathorne Hardy , M . P . H . M . Secretary of State for War . Sir , —I had the honour of receiving your communication of the 11 th , in reference to the refusal of the Roman Catholic Chaplain to the Forces at Chatham to bury Sergeant Johnstone , 82 nd Regiment , being a Freemason . I am to remind you that I referred to the Canadian case to

show it was the opinion of the Judicial Committee that ecclesiastical burial is a civil right , and that its denial on thc part of a Roman Catholic priest is ' degradation , not to say infamy . ' It is therefore clear , that while the circumstances arc different thc consequences are the same . It is impossible to understand why any British subject , especially one serving in Her Majesty's forces , should be deprived of his undoubted rights , and therefore subject to

' degradation , not to say infamy , ' simply decause he be longed to the Masonic order . I have the honour to be , sir , your obedient servant , G . R . BADENOCII . Protestant Educational Institute , Clarence Chambers , 12 , Haymarket , London , S . W . 22 nd January , 1875 . ? Refusal to Bury a British Soldier because he was 1

Freemason . ' Some excitement has been caused in Chatham Garrison by the refusal of thc Rev . M . Cuffc , Roman Catholic Chaplain to the Forces , to perform the burial service over Armourer-Sergeant J . V . Johnstone , ofthe 82 nd Regiment , a Roman Catholic Freemason , who died in Fort Pitt Hospital . The deceased had been a member of thc Buckley

Lodge of Freemasons , who met at the Soldiers' Institute . A resident Roman Catholic priest also declined , as the Rev . M . Cuffe was his senior . The Rev . Mr . Phillips , a Protestant clergyman , performed the Church service when the deceased was interred ; in the military burial-ground near Fort Kit . The deceased was much respected , and hundreds of soldiers attended the funeral . '—Military and Naval intelligence , the ' Times , " Feb . 5 , 1874 .

The Roman Catholics and Freemasonry . To Ihe Editor of Ihe Times . 14 th Feb . 1874 . Sir , —1 have been rather severely criticised in a few journals for having lately declined to attend a Freemason's funeral . Will you kindly allow me to explain myself in the Times on this occasion ?

The Catholic Church does not allow her clergy to read the burial service over the bodies of those who die out of her communion . On this account I was obliged to decline attending the funeral of the late Armourer-Sergeant Johnstone , who died on the 29 th ult . He died a Freemason . No Freemason is a Catholic . No Catholic can be a Freemason ; the moment he becomes one he secedes from his

church . I have already given this explanation to the military authorities of the Chatham garrison , on my declining to attend the funeral of the late Sergeant Johnstone , and 1 believe it has been accepted as satisfactory . Allow me here to state , and I do so with much pleasure , that since I first entered thc British Army , which was in

i 8- ! 4 , no military superior ever ordered or requested mc to perform any duty which could be found to clash with any of the regulations of my church ; they even rather expect and wish I should adhere most strictly to the faithful observance of these regulations , and by God's grace and blessings I am determined to do so as long as I move on earth .

Chatham , I'eb . 13 .

lour obedient servant , MICHAEL CUFFE , R . C . Chaplain to Her Majesty's Forces .

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ROYAL MASONIC BENEVOLENT INSTITUTION . STEWAHUS' LIST , 1 S 7 ; . ' £ s . d . The Right lion , thc Earl of Shrewsbury and Talbot , Chairman ... ... 100 o o

PHOVINCE or LINCOLN . Bro . William Pigott " 1 „ John Sutcliffe i „ Rev . Dan . Ace , D . D . > ... 573 o o „ Nelson I „ John Hadfield J

PHOVINCE OF WEST YOIIKSIIIHK . Bro . W . II . Brittain , 139 , " | ,, Geo . W . Ilawkesley , 139 , „ John Harrop , 154 , „ Henry Day , | . P . 208 , „ R . J . Critchley , J . P . 208 , ,, J . Dawson Sugden , 302 , „ John Hirst , jun ., 337 ,

„ Capt . E . T . Clarke , jun ., 910 , >•... 242 10 o ,, John Simpson , 910 , „ William Hy . Gill , 101 9 , „ J . A . Thornton , 101 9 , „ John Wordsworth , 1019 , „ Jonas Craven , 290 , „ W . II . B . Tomlinson , J . P ., 154 , „ Capt . J . Wordsworth , 380 ,

PROVINCE OF STAFFORD . „ 4 C 10 . Rro . C . Marsh ~ \ „ 482 . „ . Fredk . Derry ( . „ 482 . „ J . Jacobs ( - ' ' ' •¦> „ 482 . „ W . R . Bettcley ) PHOVINCE OF WILTS . „ Robert Stokes ... ... ... 6 9 14 o ,, Samuel Rawson ... ... ... 10 o o

PHOVINCE OF CKESIIIKK . „ Capt . Richard Cope ... ... ... too o o LODGE I . BIO . William H . Trego ... 35 o o „ 2 . „ F . A . Philbrick ... 5 8 13 o „ 3 . „ Chas . Terry ... ... 40 00 „ 4 . „ Alfred Meadows ... 16 00 „ 5 . „ Frederick Newton ... 2 ? 20

„ 7 . „ Chas . Warr 28 o 6 „ 8 . „ Richd . JJ Hayhow ... 0 13 o ,, 10 . „ Rev . J . N . Palmer ... 34 8 o „ 12 . „ S . B . Lemaitre ... 85 10 o ,, 14 . ,, Edmund Nash ... 10 10 o „ 18 . „ Jas . C . Chaplin ... 5296 „ 20 . „ Humphrey Wood ... 2 ? 00

,, 21 . „ Robert P . Spice ... 0 0 c „ 22 . „ T . R . Eames ... ... 22 13 o „ 23 . „ William Huckvalc ... 25 00 „ 25 . „ Jos . Lindner ... ... 23 1 0 „ 27 . „ Chas . Atkins ... ... 121 11 o 1 , 28 . „ David Crombie ... 49 o o „ 29 . „ Arthur J . R . Trendell ... 18 00

11 33- 1 , Geo . Eedes Eachus ... 6 3 11 o » 34 . „ Wm . Bod y Date ... 00 00 ,, 37 . „ James Newton ... 10 00 ,, 4 6 . „ William Kingsbury ... 26 5 o i > 52 . 11 " ¦ G . Barwell ... 10 5 o „ 54- „ C . M . Jones 25 o o n 5 . v , 1 WalterT : Farthing ... 64 10 o

„ 60 . „ W . L . Wheeler ... 15 00 , 1 d . v „ Chas . Daniel ... ... 44 o o „ 08 . „ William Richards ... 53 00 , 1 7 > r . !• C . Ring 33 o o » 77- . 1 Wm . Hicks 40 5 o „ 87 . „ Chas . Hull j 1 00 „ 96 . „ Chas . W . C . Mutton ... 82 11 o

„ 99 . „ Samuel B . Harrison ... 43 18 o „ 101 . „ W . G . Clark 49 o o ,, 102 . „ Col . James Duff ... 22 00 „ 104 . „ William Goodacre ... 10 o o „ 104 . „ Wm . H . Wakefield ... 10 o o 1 , 13 ° . ,, . !• E , Le Feuvre ... 45 00 „ 140 . „ Chas . Jardinc ... ... 41 00

„ 141 . „ John Kennett ... ... 37 3 o „ 144 . „ William Kew ... 6 7 5 o „ 145 . „ Thomas Bull ... ... 43 13 o Chap . 145 . Comp . Joseph Last ... ... 20 o o Lodge 15 O . Bro . Henry Dubosc , sen . ... 15 00 „ 1 O 4 . „ Wm . Mine Haycock ... 5 5 o „ 1 O 9 . „ Geo . Bolton , V . P . ... 107 c o

,, 174 . „ G . J . Hilliard 51 10 o „ 177 . „ Frederick Kent ... 21 00 „ 179 . „ Walter Hopekirk ... 5 O o o „ 184 . „ Charles Burley ... 40 13 o „ 189 . „ J . Edmund Curteis ... ^^ 13 o „ 192 . „ Francis Fellowes ... 52 00 „ 193 . „ B . D . Kershaw ... 27 19 o

„ 197 . „ I . G . Bnllen 56 1 o „ 198 , „ G . E . Holland ... 24 12 o „ 205 . „ Chas . F . Hogard ... 29 13 o „ 209 . „ Geo . W . Dixon ... 25 46 » 209 . „ J . O . Carter 31 7 6 „ 221 . „ Jas . Martin Rutter ... 10 o o ,, 228 . „ Daniel Tallerman ... . 40 1 0

„ 2- | f > . „ Rev . D . J . Drakeford ... 45 9 o „ 259 . „ John Aird , jun . ... Or 00 „ 2 O 3 . „ Walter Spencer ... 13 00 „ 281 . „ J . Daniel Moore , M . D . 9 13 0 „ 342 . „ S . R . Ellis 77 15 o n 34 S- 11 James Pye 28 00 ,, 34 6 . „ Thos . S . Ainsworth ... 11 10

> i 353- , 1 Hugh E . Diamond ... 1000 > , 357 . „ Rev . II . A . Pickford , M . A . 70 0 o „ 3 O 0 . „ William Brook Gates ... 15 50 „ 382 . „ William Coombes ... 1 * 5 _ r ; o 1 . 393- 11 Adam Winlaw ... 37 8 0 „ 403 . „ T . S . Carter 08 20 . 1 435- i > W . C . Phillips 26 i 2 0

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THE STEWARD'S LISTS OF THE ROYAL MASONIC BENEVOLENT INSTITUTION ANNIVERSARY. Article 7
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ADDRESS AND TESTIMONIAL TO LORD DUNBOYNE, P.G.M., NORTH MUNSTER. Article 9
MASONIC RECEPTION TO THE SECOND MATE OF THE COSPATRICK AT GLASGOW. Article 9
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Multum In Parbo; Or Masonic Notes And Quaries.

" i . Queen ' s Arms , St . Paul ' s Church Yard , the West India and American Lodge , 2 nd Wednesday ; 4 th , a Master's Lodge . " 2 . Horn , Westminster , 2 nd Thursday . These two constituted time immemorial . " Now the figures evidently represent the numbers of the Lodges , which , we presume ( though the Lodges are not

named ) , are identical with the Lodge of Antiquity , London ( which was No . 1 , under the "Moderns" ) , and Somerset House Lodge ( which was No . 2 , same jurisdiction ) . These Lodges are still in existence , are the only English Lodges working from time immemorial , and are numbered now 2 and 4 on the Register of the United Grand Lodge of England , as we learn from Bro . Hughan's " Memorials of the

Union of 1813 , " which wc have reviewed at length in this issue of The Keystone . The names , " Queen ' s Arms " and " Horn , " evidently were the names of the Taverns where these Lodges held their meetings . But what is the meaning of thc descriptive clause , " Thc West-India and American Lodge , " attached to Lodge No . 1 , now , probably , the Lodge of Antiquity , and the oldest

Lodge under the Grand Lodge of England ? Will Bro . Wm . Jas . Hughan , or Bro . A . F . A . Woodford ( both of whom are skilled Masonic Archaeologists ) favour us with an explanation of these mysterious words ? As Americans , we would be proud to be connected , even in name , with thc

oldest English Lodge in the world , working by Immemorial Constitution , without Charter ! We should be glad to know , also , the title of this Masonic publication of A . D . ijr $ 9 or 1760 . The foregoing is from The Keystone , and Bro . Hughan has made the following reply to thc interesting

communication : — " Dear Bro . McCalla , — " I have not yet discovered the title of the book containing the List of Lodges to which you refer , but thc other query is easily settled by reference to other lists of a similar date . In a MS . I have a copy of , now in thc possession of Bro . J . F . Spurr , P . M . 200 , Scarborough , entitled

'A New and Correct List of all the Regular Lodges in Europe , Asia , Africa , and America , according to their Seniority and Constitution , by Order of the Grand Master , brought down to April 19 th , 1765 , " the first lodge mentioned is : " 1 , Queen ' s Arms , St . Paul's Church Yard , 2 nd Wednesday . Constituted time Immemorial . Every 4 th

Wednesday there is a Master's Lodge . It is also thc West-India and American Lodge . " In Cole's engraved List of Lodges of 1768 , entitled , "A List of Regular Lodges according to their Seniority and Constitution , by Order of the Grand Master , printed for , and Sold by William Cole , Engraver and Copper-plate Printer , opposite Warwick Lane in Newgate Street , " I find thc following :

1 . —The West India and 2 nd . Wedy . Constituted American Lodge at the The 4 th , a time Queen ' s Arms in St . Paul's Master ' s Immemorial Churchyard . Lodge .

It is evident , therefore , that the " Lodge of Antiquity , " then No . 1 ( now No . 2 ) , to which these references are made , was partly composed of brethren originally hailing from West India and America , or connected commercially with these Countries , or obtained many of their candidates from West India and America , through gentlemen from those regions when in London choosing that ancient lodge in which first to see the "Light . "

I have searched many other Lists of Lodges , but no allusion is made in them to West India or America in connection with No . i . However , it is quite clear that many brethren who were , in all probability , West India and American Merchants , joined the Lodgeof Antiquity , London , about 1760 , to give rise to such a description of that ancient lodge , and hence assisted in securing its prosperity , which happily has continued to the present day . Long may it continue . Fraternally yours , WILLIAM JAMES HUGHAN . Truro , 30 th Jan ., 1875 .

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FREEMASONS AND THE ULTRAMONTANES .

We are requested to publish the following correspondence : — To thc Right Hon . Gathorne Hardy , M . P ., H . M . Secretary of State for War . Sir , —I am to crave the liberty of drawing your attention to the case of a Non-commissioned Officer being

refused ecclesiastical burial at Chatham , simply because he was a Freemason . The case is that of Armourer-Sergeant J . V . Johnstone , of the 82 nd Regiment , a Roman Catholic , who died in Fort Pitt Hospital . I enclose an extract from the military and naval intelligence of the Times of 5 th Feb . last , * and also a copy of a letter from the Roman Catholic Chaplain which appeared in the same newspaper

on the 14 th of Feb . last , explaining the ground on which he refused to give ecclesiastical burial . The case would have been brought to your notice early in the session , by a member of the House of Commons , but the press of business was so great that he was unable to get a fit opportunity of stating the case to the House . It was then considered advisable to wait the decision of

the Judicial Committee ' of the Privy Council in a cause from Lower Canada , of a Roman Catholic priest refusing ecclesiastical burial to one named Guibord , because he was a member of a purely scientific and literary institute . The decision on that cause has now been given . Their Lordships hold that ecclesiastical burial is a civil ri ght and

ought to be protected . I hey say— ' It cannot be denied on the evidence that this qualification of the general ri ght of interment , this separation of the grave from the ordinary place of sepulture , implies degradation , not to say infamy ;' and their Lordships have accordingly ordered the Cure to give ecclesiastical burial as demanded b y Guibord ' s representatives , I send herewith a full cony of thc iudg-

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ment , as published in the Hour newspaper of the 1 st inst . I am respectfully to rcjiresent , that if the principal appellate court in the realm protects the ecclesiastical burial of one of her Majesty ' s subjects in Canada , it is surely right that a soldier of tlie British army should be equally protected . The Roman Catholic Chaplain holds his commission to perform certain duties to her Majesty's soldiers

of the Roman Catholic religion , and is it possible that any foreign consideration could be allowed to justify the nonperformance of that duty ? Moreover , the Association of Freemasons is a loyal and patriotic body of men , banded together to maintain the common rights of humanity , and is specially protected by Act of Parliament . I am , therefore , to express the hope that such moral

degradation and civil injury as is implied by the refusal of ecclesiastical burial in the case referred to , shall not be allowed to be inflicted on a British soldier because he may happen to be a Freemason ; and that no commissioned chaplain of her Majesty ' s forces shall be permitted , on anyalleged spiritual ground , to supersede the duty which he owes to her Majesty ' s service .

May I crave your early , attention to this important matter ? I have the honour to be , sir , your obedient servant , G . R . BADENOCII , Sec . Protestant Educational Institute , 12 , Haymarket , London , S . W . 10 th December , 1874 .

War Office , Pall Mall , nth January , 1875 . Sir , —I am directed by Mr . Secretary Hardy to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of 10 th ult ., calling attention to thc case of the late Armourer-Sergeant Johnstone , 82 nd Foot , at Chatham . In reply I am to acquaint you that the circumstances of the Canadian case quoted by you were , in Mr . Hardy's

opinion , essentially different from those of the Chatham case ; and , moreover , that the principles on which the judgment of the Privy Council in the Canadian case was based appear to Mr . Hardy to render it very difficult , if not impossible , for him to interfere in a matter such as that now brought to his notice . I am , sir , your obedient servant , RALPH THOMPSON .

To the Right Hon . Gathorne Hardy , M . P . H . M . Secretary of State for War . Sir , —I had the honour of receiving your communication of the 11 th , in reference to the refusal of the Roman Catholic Chaplain to the Forces at Chatham to bury Sergeant Johnstone , 82 nd Regiment , being a Freemason . I am to remind you that I referred to the Canadian case to

show it was the opinion of the Judicial Committee that ecclesiastical burial is a civil right , and that its denial on thc part of a Roman Catholic priest is ' degradation , not to say infamy . ' It is therefore clear , that while the circumstances arc different thc consequences are the same . It is impossible to understand why any British subject , especially one serving in Her Majesty's forces , should be deprived of his undoubted rights , and therefore subject to

' degradation , not to say infamy , ' simply decause he be longed to the Masonic order . I have the honour to be , sir , your obedient servant , G . R . BADENOCII . Protestant Educational Institute , Clarence Chambers , 12 , Haymarket , London , S . W . 22 nd January , 1875 . ? Refusal to Bury a British Soldier because he was 1

Freemason . ' Some excitement has been caused in Chatham Garrison by the refusal of thc Rev . M . Cuffc , Roman Catholic Chaplain to the Forces , to perform the burial service over Armourer-Sergeant J . V . Johnstone , ofthe 82 nd Regiment , a Roman Catholic Freemason , who died in Fort Pitt Hospital . The deceased had been a member of thc Buckley

Lodge of Freemasons , who met at the Soldiers' Institute . A resident Roman Catholic priest also declined , as the Rev . M . Cuffe was his senior . The Rev . Mr . Phillips , a Protestant clergyman , performed the Church service when the deceased was interred ; in the military burial-ground near Fort Kit . The deceased was much respected , and hundreds of soldiers attended the funeral . '—Military and Naval intelligence , the ' Times , " Feb . 5 , 1874 .

The Roman Catholics and Freemasonry . To Ihe Editor of Ihe Times . 14 th Feb . 1874 . Sir , —1 have been rather severely criticised in a few journals for having lately declined to attend a Freemason's funeral . Will you kindly allow me to explain myself in the Times on this occasion ?

The Catholic Church does not allow her clergy to read the burial service over the bodies of those who die out of her communion . On this account I was obliged to decline attending the funeral of the late Armourer-Sergeant Johnstone , who died on the 29 th ult . He died a Freemason . No Freemason is a Catholic . No Catholic can be a Freemason ; the moment he becomes one he secedes from his

church . I have already given this explanation to the military authorities of the Chatham garrison , on my declining to attend the funeral of the late Sergeant Johnstone , and 1 believe it has been accepted as satisfactory . Allow me here to state , and I do so with much pleasure , that since I first entered thc British Army , which was in

i 8- ! 4 , no military superior ever ordered or requested mc to perform any duty which could be found to clash with any of the regulations of my church ; they even rather expect and wish I should adhere most strictly to the faithful observance of these regulations , and by God's grace and blessings I am determined to do so as long as I move on earth .

Chatham , I'eb . 13 .

lour obedient servant , MICHAEL CUFFE , R . C . Chaplain to Her Majesty's Forces .

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ROYAL MASONIC BENEVOLENT INSTITUTION . STEWAHUS' LIST , 1 S 7 ; . ' £ s . d . The Right lion , thc Earl of Shrewsbury and Talbot , Chairman ... ... 100 o o

PHOVINCE or LINCOLN . Bro . William Pigott " 1 „ John Sutcliffe i „ Rev . Dan . Ace , D . D . > ... 573 o o „ Nelson I „ John Hadfield J

PHOVINCE OF WEST YOIIKSIIIHK . Bro . W . II . Brittain , 139 , " | ,, Geo . W . Ilawkesley , 139 , „ John Harrop , 154 , „ Henry Day , | . P . 208 , „ R . J . Critchley , J . P . 208 , ,, J . Dawson Sugden , 302 , „ John Hirst , jun ., 337 ,

„ Capt . E . T . Clarke , jun ., 910 , >•... 242 10 o ,, John Simpson , 910 , „ William Hy . Gill , 101 9 , „ J . A . Thornton , 101 9 , „ John Wordsworth , 1019 , „ Jonas Craven , 290 , „ W . II . B . Tomlinson , J . P ., 154 , „ Capt . J . Wordsworth , 380 ,

PROVINCE OF STAFFORD . „ 4 C 10 . Rro . C . Marsh ~ \ „ 482 . „ . Fredk . Derry ( . „ 482 . „ J . Jacobs ( - ' ' ' •¦> „ 482 . „ W . R . Bettcley ) PHOVINCE OF WILTS . „ Robert Stokes ... ... ... 6 9 14 o ,, Samuel Rawson ... ... ... 10 o o

PHOVINCE OF CKESIIIKK . „ Capt . Richard Cope ... ... ... too o o LODGE I . BIO . William H . Trego ... 35 o o „ 2 . „ F . A . Philbrick ... 5 8 13 o „ 3 . „ Chas . Terry ... ... 40 00 „ 4 . „ Alfred Meadows ... 16 00 „ 5 . „ Frederick Newton ... 2 ? 20

„ 7 . „ Chas . Warr 28 o 6 „ 8 . „ Richd . JJ Hayhow ... 0 13 o ,, 10 . „ Rev . J . N . Palmer ... 34 8 o „ 12 . „ S . B . Lemaitre ... 85 10 o ,, 14 . ,, Edmund Nash ... 10 10 o „ 18 . „ Jas . C . Chaplin ... 5296 „ 20 . „ Humphrey Wood ... 2 ? 00

,, 21 . „ Robert P . Spice ... 0 0 c „ 22 . „ T . R . Eames ... ... 22 13 o „ 23 . „ William Huckvalc ... 25 00 „ 25 . „ Jos . Lindner ... ... 23 1 0 „ 27 . „ Chas . Atkins ... ... 121 11 o 1 , 28 . „ David Crombie ... 49 o o „ 29 . „ Arthur J . R . Trendell ... 18 00

11 33- 1 , Geo . Eedes Eachus ... 6 3 11 o » 34 . „ Wm . Bod y Date ... 00 00 ,, 37 . „ James Newton ... 10 00 ,, 4 6 . „ William Kingsbury ... 26 5 o i > 52 . 11 " ¦ G . Barwell ... 10 5 o „ 54- „ C . M . Jones 25 o o n 5 . v , 1 WalterT : Farthing ... 64 10 o

„ 60 . „ W . L . Wheeler ... 15 00 , 1 d . v „ Chas . Daniel ... ... 44 o o „ 08 . „ William Richards ... 53 00 , 1 7 > r . !• C . Ring 33 o o » 77- . 1 Wm . Hicks 40 5 o „ 87 . „ Chas . Hull j 1 00 „ 96 . „ Chas . W . C . Mutton ... 82 11 o

„ 99 . „ Samuel B . Harrison ... 43 18 o „ 101 . „ W . G . Clark 49 o o ,, 102 . „ Col . James Duff ... 22 00 „ 104 . „ William Goodacre ... 10 o o „ 104 . „ Wm . H . Wakefield ... 10 o o 1 , 13 ° . ,, . !• E , Le Feuvre ... 45 00 „ 140 . „ Chas . Jardinc ... ... 41 00

„ 141 . „ John Kennett ... ... 37 3 o „ 144 . „ William Kew ... 6 7 5 o „ 145 . „ Thomas Bull ... ... 43 13 o Chap . 145 . Comp . Joseph Last ... ... 20 o o Lodge 15 O . Bro . Henry Dubosc , sen . ... 15 00 „ 1 O 4 . „ Wm . Mine Haycock ... 5 5 o „ 1 O 9 . „ Geo . Bolton , V . P . ... 107 c o

,, 174 . „ G . J . Hilliard 51 10 o „ 177 . „ Frederick Kent ... 21 00 „ 179 . „ Walter Hopekirk ... 5 O o o „ 184 . „ Charles Burley ... 40 13 o „ 189 . „ J . Edmund Curteis ... ^^ 13 o „ 192 . „ Francis Fellowes ... 52 00 „ 193 . „ B . D . Kershaw ... 27 19 o

„ 197 . „ I . G . Bnllen 56 1 o „ 198 , „ G . E . Holland ... 24 12 o „ 205 . „ Chas . F . Hogard ... 29 13 o „ 209 . „ Geo . W . Dixon ... 25 46 » 209 . „ J . O . Carter 31 7 6 „ 221 . „ Jas . Martin Rutter ... 10 o o ,, 228 . „ Daniel Tallerman ... . 40 1 0

„ 2- | f > . „ Rev . D . J . Drakeford ... 45 9 o „ 259 . „ John Aird , jun . ... Or 00 „ 2 O 3 . „ Walter Spencer ... 13 00 „ 281 . „ J . Daniel Moore , M . D . 9 13 0 „ 342 . „ S . R . Ellis 77 15 o n 34 S- 11 James Pye 28 00 ,, 34 6 . „ Thos . S . Ainsworth ... 11 10

> i 353- , 1 Hugh E . Diamond ... 1000 > , 357 . „ Rev . II . A . Pickford , M . A . 70 0 o „ 3 O 0 . „ William Brook Gates ... 15 50 „ 382 . „ William Coombes ... 1 * 5 _ r ; o 1 . 393- 11 Adam Winlaw ... 37 8 0 „ 403 . „ T . S . Carter 08 20 . 1 435- i > W . C . Phillips 26 i 2 0

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