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The Week.

The House then resumed the debate on the Reform Bills . Sir H . Cairns led off with a speech in which ho echoed the criticisms of Mr . Lowe and all those who had opposed tho bills . Mr . A eland followed in support of the measure . In tlie course of the subsequent discussion Mr . C . W . Martin , one of the memhers for Newport , a borough proposed to be grouped , spoke against Captain Hayter ' s amendment . The other member for

Newport , Mr . Kennard , supported the amendment . —There was a short and sharp prelude to the Reform debate in the House , on the 4 th inst . Lord Elcho repeated bis question as + o whether the Government , in case they were successful in defeating Captain Hayter ' s amendment , intended to withdraw tho Distribution of Seats of Bill . Mr . Hadfield Avanted to know if the

Government had been informed that Captain Hayter intended to withdraw his amendment . The Chancellor of the Exchequer replying first to Mr . Hadfield , said the Government had had no communication ivith Captain Hayter . As to Lord Elcho's question he declined in effect to give any answer to it . Sir Hugh Cairns wanted to know if the Government adhered to

its resolution not to prorogue Parliament till the bills were either carried or rejected . Again the Chancellor of the Exchequer declined to give any answer . Mr . Hadfield addressed himself to Captain Hayter , and wished to know from him Avhether he intended to withdraw his motion . Captain Hayter replied that he could ] not just then como to a decision . Sir T .

Bateson thereupon ivantcd to know if the Government bad been to tbe gallant captain with auy promises of manipulation ofthe Distribution of Seats Bill . Captain Hayter replied emphatically in the negative . Mr . Horsmau , who probably felt the Cave growing darker , Avanted to know if the Government would stand or fall by the bill . The Chancellor of the Exchequer replied that they had already said they Avould ,

and as yet they had made no change m then- intentions . — After this brisk cross-firing the debate on the real question Avas mildly begun by Lord John Manners , who , of course , opposed the Bill . Earl Grosvenor did not like the bills , but ho disliked a Tory Government more , and therefore he should vote Avith the Government . Mr . Bernai Osborne , in a speech hitting out right and left , supported the Government . Mr . Adderley

repeated in effect the speech he recently delivered at Stoke-upou-Trent against Mr . Bright and the Bill , and was smartly replied to by Mr . Grenfell . Lord 11 . Montagu opposed the Bill , Avhich found a supporter in Mr . Pirn and another opponent iu Mr . AA ' alrond . Mr . Wy ld hoped the Government Avould not regard their plan of grouping as unchangeable in committee , and Mr .

Mitford hoped the bills would be rejected . Mr . Heavy Seymour thanked the Government for bringing forward the bills , and Sir T . Bateson issued a fierce diatribe against the measures . Mr . Coleridge came next Avith a powerful speech , in which he fitly rebuked the extravagances of Mr . Lowe . He was replied to by Jlr . AVhiteside . After Mr . Marsh and Mr . A , Egerton had

spoken against the bill , the Chancellor of the Exchequer addressed himself to the { task of answering the objections fco the Bill . He spoke for about two hours , and effectually demolished the arguments of his opponents . Mr . Disraeli got the place he loves—that of last in the debate . Ho indulged in a good deal of sarcasm , but very little argument . Captain Hayter then

wished to withdraw his amendment , bnt the House would not permit this , and it was negatived Avithout a division . The House went into committee pro forma , and , after a rather exciting scene and a division , resumed . On the Sth inst , in reply to Sir Stafford Northcote , the Chancellor of the Exchequer said the Terminable Annuities Bill would not be taken on Thursday evening , but the Government would go on with the

Reform Bills . A string of amendments to the bills would appear to-day on the notices in his name , tbe object of Avhich was to fuse the two bills and to provide that they should both take effect at the same time . He thought it would be better to have the bills reprinted before going into committee ivith the amendments he should propose , and he moved a resolution to

that effect . A discussion followed , in the course of which it was said that the proceeding was irregular . Eventually the motion was withdrawn , on the understanding thafc ifc would be brought on again on Thursday . —In reply to General Peel , the ] Chancellor of the Exchequer confirmed the report that the proposed European conference had been broken off . —Subsequently there

were discussions in reference to tho payment of medical officers of unions in Ireland and Metropolitan Improvements . As to the latter , Mr . Baillie Cochrane moved a royal commission to inquire into the constitution of the Metropolitan Board of AA ' orks , the office of Public AA ' orks , and the office of AA ' oods and Forests with a view to the better carrying out of metropolitan

improvements . The motion was opposed , and after a short discussion was withdrawn . —The Chancellor of the Exchequer brought up a Royal Message in reference to the marriage of the Princess Mary of Cambridge , and moved that it be taken into consideration on Thursday next . The motion was agreed to . The House ivas shortly afterwards counted out . On tbe 6 th

insfc ., tlie first business of importance Avas the consideration of the Real Estate Intestacy Bill , the second reading of which ivas moved by Mr . Locke King . The object of the measure was to assimilate the law of intestacy as regards real property to thafc in reference to personal property . There was a warm debate , the Bill being opposed by tho Attorney-General , Mr . B . Hope ,

and other members . Mr . Bright spoke strongly in favour of the Bill . Eventually it was negatived ; the numbers being—for the Bill S 4 , against ifc , 281 . —Air . Bouverie then moved the third reading of tbe Fellows of Colleges Declaration Bill . Mr . G . Hardy opposed the Bill , and moved its rejection . The debate upon it continued until a quarter to six , when it Avas adjourned to the llth of Jnlv .

GENERAL HOME NEAVS . —The Duke and Duchess of Saxe-Coburg , accompanied by several members of the Oi-leanist family , arrived in London on the 31 st ult . It the Court of Common Council the Bishop of London , through the medium of a letter , applied for a piece of land near the Cattle Market as a site for a church . Jlr . Medwin sharply criticised the

Bishop ' s proceedings , and in the end the letter was somewhat cavalierly handed over to a committee . Afc a meeting of Common Council , it Avas finally resolved that Southwark Bridge should be purchased for £ 200 , 000 , the motion being carried by a mnjoritv of forty . Mr . John Scott Russell applied at the AA ' estminster Police-court , in obedience to a summons charging him with

perjury . The case arose oufc of some evidence given by Mr Russell , before the Court of Queen ' s Bench , as to a system of constructing iron ships which had been patented by Mr . Clarke The examination of witnesses lasted several hours , and the case ; was finally adjourned . In the Court of Probate on the 1 st inst . the petition of Mrs . Ryves , who claims fco be the legitimate

granddaughter of Henry Fiederick , Duke of Cumberland and therefore the inheritor of that title , came before a full court cf the judges and a special jury . AVhen Dr . AA * . Smith Avas entering into the facts of the case he Avas stopped by an objection of the court to the effect that if the marriage of the plaintiff ' s grandmother with the Royal Duke ivas proved , her mother ' s marriage , which took place after the passage of the Royal Marriage Act , would be illegal . The Lord Chief Justice asked Dr . Smith to address himself to this part of the case , and the

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RECOLLECTIONS OF THE LODGE OF FREEMASONS AT THORNHILL. Article 1
LODGE OFFICERS, THEIR POWERS AND DUTIES. Article 3
MONITA SECRETA SOCIETATIS JESU. Article 6
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 7
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 8
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 9
PROVINCIAL. Article 14
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
RED CROSS KNIGHTS. Article 16
MEETINGS OF THE SCIENTIFIC AND LEARNED SOCIETIES FOR THE WEEK ENDING JUNE 16TH, 1866. Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 17
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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The Week.

The House then resumed the debate on the Reform Bills . Sir H . Cairns led off with a speech in which ho echoed the criticisms of Mr . Lowe and all those who had opposed tho bills . Mr . A eland followed in support of the measure . In tlie course of the subsequent discussion Mr . C . W . Martin , one of the memhers for Newport , a borough proposed to be grouped , spoke against Captain Hayter ' s amendment . The other member for

Newport , Mr . Kennard , supported the amendment . —There was a short and sharp prelude to the Reform debate in the House , on the 4 th inst . Lord Elcho repeated bis question as + o whether the Government , in case they were successful in defeating Captain Hayter ' s amendment , intended to withdraw tho Distribution of Seats of Bill . Mr . Hadfield Avanted to know if the

Government had been informed that Captain Hayter intended to withdraw his amendment . The Chancellor of the Exchequer replying first to Mr . Hadfield , said the Government had had no communication ivith Captain Hayter . As to Lord Elcho's question he declined in effect to give any answer to it . Sir Hugh Cairns wanted to know if the Government adhered to

its resolution not to prorogue Parliament till the bills were either carried or rejected . Again the Chancellor of the Exchequer declined to give any answer . Mr . Hadfield addressed himself to Captain Hayter , and wished to know from him Avhether he intended to withdraw his motion . Captain Hayter replied that he could ] not just then como to a decision . Sir T .

Bateson thereupon ivantcd to know if the Government bad been to tbe gallant captain with auy promises of manipulation ofthe Distribution of Seats Bill . Captain Hayter replied emphatically in the negative . Mr . Horsmau , who probably felt the Cave growing darker , Avanted to know if the Government would stand or fall by the bill . The Chancellor of the Exchequer replied that they had already said they Avould ,

and as yet they had made no change m then- intentions . — After this brisk cross-firing the debate on the real question Avas mildly begun by Lord John Manners , who , of course , opposed the Bill . Earl Grosvenor did not like the bills , but ho disliked a Tory Government more , and therefore he should vote Avith the Government . Mr . Bernai Osborne , in a speech hitting out right and left , supported the Government . Mr . Adderley

repeated in effect the speech he recently delivered at Stoke-upou-Trent against Mr . Bright and the Bill , and was smartly replied to by Mr . Grenfell . Lord 11 . Montagu opposed the Bill , Avhich found a supporter in Mr . Pirn and another opponent iu Mr . AA ' alrond . Mr . Wy ld hoped the Government Avould not regard their plan of grouping as unchangeable in committee , and Mr .

Mitford hoped the bills would be rejected . Mr . Heavy Seymour thanked the Government for bringing forward the bills , and Sir T . Bateson issued a fierce diatribe against the measures . Mr . Coleridge came next Avith a powerful speech , in which he fitly rebuked the extravagances of Mr . Lowe . He was replied to by Jlr . AVhiteside . After Mr . Marsh and Mr . A , Egerton had

spoken against the bill , the Chancellor of the Exchequer addressed himself to the { task of answering the objections fco the Bill . He spoke for about two hours , and effectually demolished the arguments of his opponents . Mr . Disraeli got the place he loves—that of last in the debate . Ho indulged in a good deal of sarcasm , but very little argument . Captain Hayter then

wished to withdraw his amendment , bnt the House would not permit this , and it was negatived Avithout a division . The House went into committee pro forma , and , after a rather exciting scene and a division , resumed . On the Sth inst , in reply to Sir Stafford Northcote , the Chancellor of the Exchequer said the Terminable Annuities Bill would not be taken on Thursday evening , but the Government would go on with the

Reform Bills . A string of amendments to the bills would appear to-day on the notices in his name , tbe object of Avhich was to fuse the two bills and to provide that they should both take effect at the same time . He thought it would be better to have the bills reprinted before going into committee ivith the amendments he should propose , and he moved a resolution to

that effect . A discussion followed , in the course of which it was said that the proceeding was irregular . Eventually the motion was withdrawn , on the understanding thafc ifc would be brought on again on Thursday . —In reply to General Peel , the ] Chancellor of the Exchequer confirmed the report that the proposed European conference had been broken off . —Subsequently there

were discussions in reference to tho payment of medical officers of unions in Ireland and Metropolitan Improvements . As to the latter , Mr . Baillie Cochrane moved a royal commission to inquire into the constitution of the Metropolitan Board of AA ' orks , the office of Public AA ' orks , and the office of AA ' oods and Forests with a view to the better carrying out of metropolitan

improvements . The motion was opposed , and after a short discussion was withdrawn . —The Chancellor of the Exchequer brought up a Royal Message in reference to the marriage of the Princess Mary of Cambridge , and moved that it be taken into consideration on Thursday next . The motion was agreed to . The House ivas shortly afterwards counted out . On tbe 6 th

insfc ., tlie first business of importance Avas the consideration of the Real Estate Intestacy Bill , the second reading of which ivas moved by Mr . Locke King . The object of the measure was to assimilate the law of intestacy as regards real property to thafc in reference to personal property . There was a warm debate , the Bill being opposed by tho Attorney-General , Mr . B . Hope ,

and other members . Mr . Bright spoke strongly in favour of the Bill . Eventually it was negatived ; the numbers being—for the Bill S 4 , against ifc , 281 . —Air . Bouverie then moved the third reading of tbe Fellows of Colleges Declaration Bill . Mr . G . Hardy opposed the Bill , and moved its rejection . The debate upon it continued until a quarter to six , when it Avas adjourned to the llth of Jnlv .

GENERAL HOME NEAVS . —The Duke and Duchess of Saxe-Coburg , accompanied by several members of the Oi-leanist family , arrived in London on the 31 st ult . It the Court of Common Council the Bishop of London , through the medium of a letter , applied for a piece of land near the Cattle Market as a site for a church . Jlr . Medwin sharply criticised the

Bishop ' s proceedings , and in the end the letter was somewhat cavalierly handed over to a committee . Afc a meeting of Common Council , it Avas finally resolved that Southwark Bridge should be purchased for £ 200 , 000 , the motion being carried by a mnjoritv of forty . Mr . John Scott Russell applied at the AA ' estminster Police-court , in obedience to a summons charging him with

perjury . The case arose oufc of some evidence given by Mr Russell , before the Court of Queen ' s Bench , as to a system of constructing iron ships which had been patented by Mr . Clarke The examination of witnesses lasted several hours , and the case ; was finally adjourned . In the Court of Probate on the 1 st inst . the petition of Mrs . Ryves , who claims fco be the legitimate

granddaughter of Henry Fiederick , Duke of Cumberland and therefore the inheritor of that title , came before a full court cf the judges and a special jury . AVhen Dr . AA * . Smith Avas entering into the facts of the case he Avas stopped by an objection of the court to the effect that if the marriage of the plaintiff ' s grandmother with the Royal Duke ivas proved , her mother ' s marriage , which took place after the passage of the Royal Marriage Act , would be illegal . The Lord Chief Justice asked Dr . Smith to address himself to this part of the case , and the

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