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Masonic Notes And Queries.
be further disordered by the landmarks displaced , a and political distinctions will divide the Masonic bodies and lodges , for it is to be feared , as has before happened in France , in such cases politics will he made a part of the lodge programme . —Bibliophile .
MARQUIS OF LORNE . Is the Marquis of Lome a member of the Craft ? —M . L . A MASONIC MYSTERY , —W . M . ' s . Mr . James F . Irvine , of Court Down , of Bath , reports to Notes and Queries ( 4 th . S . VII . page
, , 284 , ) that since the restoration of the vcest front of Wilts Cathedral it has been discovered that in the lins of subjects , representing the resurrection of the dead , each group has had a number marked on it . Of these numbers it is remarked that they are Arabic , and that this is an exceptional use of them at the period
in question . The sculptures are of long date , not later than the early decorated period . The material used is the local Doulting stone , so that the work was executed at , or near the spot ; but the use of these figures seems to raise a doubt whether the artists Avere local
men , or brought from a district , where these numbers were in use to this country to execute the sculptures . Mr . Irvine further reports that no letters have as yet been seen on them , or Mason's marks , though Mason ' s bencher marks are abundant in the Cathedraland in the bed joints of the stones of the
, west front . I should like to put this fonvard as a possible example of communications of Freemasons Avith the east duriBg the middle ages . ' —READERS .
MASONIC JURISPRUDENCE—REVIVAL OF JURISDICTION . How far is it legitimate for a body belonging to one jurisdiction and temporarily acceding to another , to return to its former jurisdiction . Take the case of a Lodge or Chapter which having
been under another national jurisdiction as a Netherland Lodge at the Cape of Good Hope comes under the English jurisdiction , circumstances arising , it ceases to belong to the English jurisdiction , and it claims its Netherland jurisdiction again . Take the case of Chapters of a jurisdiction which
by treaty recognise another jurisdiction , and afterwards secede , the question is how far a transfer to their original jurisdiction again is legitimate ? Will our Grand Registrar , the V . W . Bro . Mclntyre , favour me and other members of the craft with a reply through the "Freemasons' Magazine " ?—R . A . M .
INSTALLATION OF M . W . G . M As a S . W ., being entitled to admission to the Grand Lodge of England , and not being altogether Bure that I may ever become a prominent member , I am anxious to he present at the installation of the M . W . G . M ., hut I am informed by your journal that
the M . W . G . M . is now engaged in a glorious mission of peace in the settlement of differences at Washington between us and our American kindred . He cannot be , unless early released , in Grand Lodge ,
Masonic Notes And Queries.
and I am anxious for information as to the nature of the installation Avhich some of your well-informed readers may be able to give . —J . W . [ However ready and willing any of our readers might be to comply with " J . \ V ' s . " request , we could not admit such a communication . " J-W . " had better
ask one of the Past Master's of his lodge who would ' give him as much information anent the ceremony as he may know . — -ED . P . M . aud M . M . ] PAST GRAND MASTS US . I am an old Mason , but not old enough to settle by experience a point which has been raised by some
younger members . For very many years I sat under the Earl of Zetland as G . M ., and always heard his health given at banquet , but now after his retirement with long service and that he is a P . G . M ., I never hear his name or his health mentioned in my lodge and some others . He seems to have dropped to
leeward . 1 understand , too , that Bro . H . R . H . the Prince of Wales was made a P . G . M . without being a G . M . at all , and be appears to be no more thought of by us than the other P . G . M . One point that arises is this , that though Past Grand Deacons and Past Grand Sword-Bearers are Past Grand Officers , and
assuch rise to return thanks for a toast , that Past Grand Masters are not Past Grand Officers at all , or are not entitled to special commemoration . Will the Grand Director of Ceremonies kindly inform me and others of your readers what is the proper course for lodges to pursue at their banquets and festivitieswhere toasts are given ?—M . M .
Correspondence.
CORRESPONDENCE .
The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents TO THE IB 1 I 0 B OS THE FEBEMASOirS MAGAZIKE AND MASONIC MIBROB . Dear Sir and Brother , —Can any of your readers inform me whether it is a fact , that , any member of a Scotch Lodgeon joining a lodge under the English
, Constitution , by that act forfeits all claims on the Grand Lodge of Scotland ? I have been informed that this is true , but until I have further proof 1 am loth to believe it . —Eclectic .
A MASONIC IMPOSITION " . iTO THE EDIXOE OF » HE mBEJIASONS' MAGAZINE AKD MASONIC JIIBEOE . Dear Sir and Brother , —I shall feel obliged if you willinsert the enclosed paragraph from the " Evening News and Hull Daily Express , " of yesterday . These of your readers who have had any experience among " Begging
Masons " will be glad to see that an effort has been made to check the progress of such vagabonds . Too much praise cannot be given to the AV . M . of the Kingston Lodge , 1010 , for the moral courage he has displayed in dealing so promptly with this case , only one I fearin a very great number that pass unpunished from mistaken sympathwith such rascals . In this instance
y a great service has been rendered the Oral ' t , and I hope to hear soon that others have followed the example ; the evil is a growing one , and requires energetic and determined action to endeavour to stop such disgraceful practices . As far as possible , enquiry should be made-
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Masonic Notes And Queries.
be further disordered by the landmarks displaced , a and political distinctions will divide the Masonic bodies and lodges , for it is to be feared , as has before happened in France , in such cases politics will he made a part of the lodge programme . —Bibliophile .
MARQUIS OF LORNE . Is the Marquis of Lome a member of the Craft ? —M . L . A MASONIC MYSTERY , —W . M . ' s . Mr . James F . Irvine , of Court Down , of Bath , reports to Notes and Queries ( 4 th . S . VII . page
, , 284 , ) that since the restoration of the vcest front of Wilts Cathedral it has been discovered that in the lins of subjects , representing the resurrection of the dead , each group has had a number marked on it . Of these numbers it is remarked that they are Arabic , and that this is an exceptional use of them at the period
in question . The sculptures are of long date , not later than the early decorated period . The material used is the local Doulting stone , so that the work was executed at , or near the spot ; but the use of these figures seems to raise a doubt whether the artists Avere local
men , or brought from a district , where these numbers were in use to this country to execute the sculptures . Mr . Irvine further reports that no letters have as yet been seen on them , or Mason's marks , though Mason ' s bencher marks are abundant in the Cathedraland in the bed joints of the stones of the
, west front . I should like to put this fonvard as a possible example of communications of Freemasons Avith the east duriBg the middle ages . ' —READERS .
MASONIC JURISPRUDENCE—REVIVAL OF JURISDICTION . How far is it legitimate for a body belonging to one jurisdiction and temporarily acceding to another , to return to its former jurisdiction . Take the case of a Lodge or Chapter which having
been under another national jurisdiction as a Netherland Lodge at the Cape of Good Hope comes under the English jurisdiction , circumstances arising , it ceases to belong to the English jurisdiction , and it claims its Netherland jurisdiction again . Take the case of Chapters of a jurisdiction which
by treaty recognise another jurisdiction , and afterwards secede , the question is how far a transfer to their original jurisdiction again is legitimate ? Will our Grand Registrar , the V . W . Bro . Mclntyre , favour me and other members of the craft with a reply through the "Freemasons' Magazine " ?—R . A . M .
INSTALLATION OF M . W . G . M As a S . W ., being entitled to admission to the Grand Lodge of England , and not being altogether Bure that I may ever become a prominent member , I am anxious to he present at the installation of the M . W . G . M ., hut I am informed by your journal that
the M . W . G . M . is now engaged in a glorious mission of peace in the settlement of differences at Washington between us and our American kindred . He cannot be , unless early released , in Grand Lodge ,
Masonic Notes And Queries.
and I am anxious for information as to the nature of the installation Avhich some of your well-informed readers may be able to give . —J . W . [ However ready and willing any of our readers might be to comply with " J . \ V ' s . " request , we could not admit such a communication . " J-W . " had better
ask one of the Past Master's of his lodge who would ' give him as much information anent the ceremony as he may know . — -ED . P . M . aud M . M . ] PAST GRAND MASTS US . I am an old Mason , but not old enough to settle by experience a point which has been raised by some
younger members . For very many years I sat under the Earl of Zetland as G . M ., and always heard his health given at banquet , but now after his retirement with long service and that he is a P . G . M ., I never hear his name or his health mentioned in my lodge and some others . He seems to have dropped to
leeward . 1 understand , too , that Bro . H . R . H . the Prince of Wales was made a P . G . M . without being a G . M . at all , and be appears to be no more thought of by us than the other P . G . M . One point that arises is this , that though Past Grand Deacons and Past Grand Sword-Bearers are Past Grand Officers , and
assuch rise to return thanks for a toast , that Past Grand Masters are not Past Grand Officers at all , or are not entitled to special commemoration . Will the Grand Director of Ceremonies kindly inform me and others of your readers what is the proper course for lodges to pursue at their banquets and festivitieswhere toasts are given ?—M . M .
Correspondence.
CORRESPONDENCE .
The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents TO THE IB 1 I 0 B OS THE FEBEMASOirS MAGAZIKE AND MASONIC MIBROB . Dear Sir and Brother , —Can any of your readers inform me whether it is a fact , that , any member of a Scotch Lodgeon joining a lodge under the English
, Constitution , by that act forfeits all claims on the Grand Lodge of Scotland ? I have been informed that this is true , but until I have further proof 1 am loth to believe it . —Eclectic .
A MASONIC IMPOSITION " . iTO THE EDIXOE OF » HE mBEJIASONS' MAGAZINE AKD MASONIC JIIBEOE . Dear Sir and Brother , —I shall feel obliged if you willinsert the enclosed paragraph from the " Evening News and Hull Daily Express , " of yesterday . These of your readers who have had any experience among " Begging
Masons " will be glad to see that an effort has been made to check the progress of such vagabonds . Too much praise cannot be given to the AV . M . of the Kingston Lodge , 1010 , for the moral courage he has displayed in dealing so promptly with this case , only one I fearin a very great number that pass unpunished from mistaken sympathwith such rascals . In this instance
y a great service has been rendered the Oral ' t , and I hope to hear soon that others have followed the example ; the evil is a growing one , and requires energetic and determined action to endeavour to stop such disgraceful practices . As far as possible , enquiry should be made-