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Masonic Notes And Queries.

that Nomao is supposed to be the ancient' Numancia . ' Wo regret that ive are unable to afford any information respecting the supposed connexion of Jfumiio with the Templars . " MASONIC VOLUNTEER TOAST . At a time like the present when the volunteer movement is uppermost in the minds of our countrymena note taken from

, Laurence Dennett's Ahiinau Rezon , may be acceptable . Under the head of "Toasts originally given in the-Orange Lodge of Belfast , No . 257 , " the seventeenth is , "May the gallant VOLUNTEERS OE IRELAND invariably unite in brotherly tics , and be as faithful to each other as Freemasons have ever been found to be . " —FULL CORPORAL .

DRIVING or PILES . When I was a young Mason , some years since , I met with an aged provincial brother in whose Masonic discourse I ivas much interested . As he had not been in a Lodge for many years , he asked me various questions , and amongst them how often we worked "driving of piles ? " I told him I did not understand himanil asked for an explanationwhich he would not ivebut

, , g , seemed to be more shy of talking to mc afterwards . Since that time I have often inquired what is meant by "driving of piles , " but have not succeeded . Can you or your correspondents tell me' ?—AIAX . —[ Scud us your full names , the Lodge you belong to , Masonic rank , & c , and wc will forward to you a description of " driving of piles . " ]

KNIGHTS TEMPLAR . Does the " Order ofthe Temple" at jiresent exist in France ? If so , who is its Grancl Master ? and what number of preceptories does it represent ? Is the ancient York Encampment still working ? Or , if dormant , how long has it been so ? And on what authority does that and the Encampments of Bath ancl Bristol base their antiquity ? If

any brother could furnish your readers with a cojiy of the " Charter of Transmission'' of the former body , and a comjilete copy of the ori ginal Statutes of the Temple , by St . Bernard , they would confer a favour on many of your Templar readers , to whom tbey arc totally unknown . At the revival of Tcmplarism , under our justly esteemed Grand MasterCol . Tynteour Grand Conclave made alterations

, , many , rejecting matter which ought never to have been rejected , and retaining what ought to have been rejected . AVhy , tor instance , ( as they have done iu America ) , did they not reject the expensive (_ Masonic ) apron?—and when giving the title of Grand Master to Col . Tynte , change that of Provincial Grand Commander to Prior —that title being at jiresent unmeaningly retained in the list of officers of Grand Conclave . The ancient term for private

Encampments was also "Preceptories , " or " Coinmauclcries , " by which name they-should still be known . If our Grand Conclave would establish more intimate relations with those of Scotland , Ireland , France , America , and elsewhere , it mi ght lead to more uniformity than at present exists , remove many anomalies which disfigure ' Tcmplarism—and perhaps pave the way to a Grand JIaster for the whole existing Order . Templary , also , having no real connexion with Freemasonry , should also have a separate ancl individual recognition from the British Government . ^

MOUVEMEST REFORMATEUR . | In a recent number of the " Revue Internationale , '" published at Geneva , an article entitled " Fraiicmaeonnerie "—being a review of Dr . Bcrchtolil ' s work " Isis " ( Fribourg 1859 ) , contains the ensuing jiassagc : — ' Le Doetoiu' Berchtold par / lit ignorer le mouvement reformateur qui s ' est tcriiiinc an Convent de Wilhelmsbad ( 1783 ) et qui engeiidi

, a -c , comme il lo dit du resto en deux ligncs , le . lyslcmereclifie de la Franc' Mucomicric Ecomiise . De ce systeme , aucu ' n rituel , aucune fomnile n ' a etc mise , au jour ; tout est reste manuscrit clans les archives des Luges nctifu-cs , en sorte qu ' on se figurerait en vain connaitre les vcritablos niystei-cs maeoniiiqiics d ' aprcs les publications qui circulcnt dans lo nionclo . Une publication pareillc no saiirait etre complete . " If any reader of periodical willthrough its columns

_ your , , iiitorm me in what book is to be found an account of tiie above mentioned " mouvement reformateur , " he will confer an obligation on several brothers resident in tin ' s department of France . —CHARLES PI . - RTON COOPER , Chateau Frampas , Montiereniler , Haute Manic , June lGth , 1 SC 0 .

THE DUKE OF WELLINGTON A MASON . Ill last week ' s number of the Freemasons' Magazine , just come to hand , a query is put to mc on a question often solved before . When youth and health admitted , 1 bad the honour of membershi p in No . -19-1 , ami often saw the signature of our late illustrious

brother , as any worthy Master Mason may , for I believe that the Lodge meets the third Monday of each month at the Freemasons ' Hall here , presided over by an excellent and experienced brother , Wm . Allen , and I have sonic recollection of Bro . Elisha D . Cooke having mentioned to me bis having seen the book and signature , when here , at the Grantl Secretary ' s office . I should be , myself , unwilling to seek permission to take tracings therefrom for what I deem a very unimportant purpose , were I even well enough . — M . FURNEI . L , 33 ° , Dublin .

THE LETTER G . Where can I obtain a satisfactory exjilanation of the Masonic use of the letter G- ?—G-. G . —[ In the second degree . Also in Ashe ' s Masonic Manual , Argument xii ., is entitled On the letter ( J , and the Relation existing between Geometry and the Masonic Institution . ' ]

VISHNU AND BRAHMA . I am anxious to trace any Masonic features that are to be found in the worship of Vishnu and Brahma . Please to indicate what are the first authorities to consult . —X . E . C . —[ The most jicrfcct work on the Deities of India and their rites is Moor ' s Hindu Pantheon , -tto ., London , 1810 . To ivhich may be added the Aseialick Researches ; or , Transactions of the Society instituted in Bengal for inquiring into the History and Antiquities , Arts , Sciences , and Literature of Asia , 20 vols ., published at Calcutta , in -ito ., between 1788 and 1730 . ]

SAMUEL PRIClIARJt ) . What is known of Samuel Prichartl , the chemist , author of Masonry Dissected ?—CIURURGEON . PROFESSIONAL LODGES . Which arc the Lodges iu which jirofcssional brethren , of all the liberal arts and sciences , most do congregate ?—C . A . B .

LODGE ACCOMMODATION . In a late number of the Magazine there is an inquiry as to the plan of a Masonic Hall . I , too , should be glad to know what constitutes the best disposition of apartments for holding , in the same building , at various times , Lodges , 11 . A . Chapters , Encampments , 11 . C . Chapters , Consistories , & c . ?•—D . E . F .

GRAND TREAS L'RERS . Is there any list , easily to be consulted , in which the names ancl dates of appointments of the Grand Treasurers of Grand Lodge are jircservccl ?—B . THE NUMUKR SEVEN . As I intend holding a discussion whether "three or seven is the

most perfect number , " would you inform mc through the Magazine , where I can get the best information on the subject . And also which you , think is the most perfect . —J ' . M . K . —[ Consult Oliver Byrne On the Power of Numbers , for the value of the two numbers in relation to each other . For their mystical perfection the Talmud , Cabbala , Mishna , Holy Bible , and Koran , will give a large amount of information . For their Masonic signification ,

refer to Dr . Oliver ' s Landmarks , Mackey ' s Lexicon , the Ceremonies and Lectures , in which there arc countless allusions to both the above numbers . "We must decline to give our own opinion on the latter portion of our correspondent ' s note , because in answering a large circle of inquirers , wc do not pledge ourselves to read up any abstruse proposition for one ( and this subject properly studied ivould swallow up weeks of reading before a definite opinion could be formed ) , while wc hope to give such general and accessible information that may be useful to ' all . ]

KEW GAIIDKXS . —The tender of Messrs . Cubitt & Co ., of Pimlico , for the erection ofthe great Conservatory and Winter Garden in the pleasuregrounds and arboretum adjoining the Botanic Gardens , at Kew , has been accepted by the First Commissioner of Her Majesty ' s Office of Works , and the ivork commenced . It will be a trifle short of 700 feet in length , covering somewhat about the same space as the Great Eastern steamship , and probably the grandest purely horticultural building in the

world . It will occupy au extensive area on the right hand side of the grand lawn avenue , leading from the Palm House to the Pagoda . Tho whole noble domain of 0 ( 10 acres is now in all its floral beauty and splendour , and beautiful almost beyond description . The new lake of live acres , with beautifully wooded islands , is situated midway between the Palm House and the Thames , ou tho left of the Zion vista . The Gardens open daily at one o ' clock ; on Sundays at two ; closing daily at sunset . All the Plant Houses and the Museums arc strictly shut at six . Free admission for all .

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CLASSICAL THEOLOGY.—XXIII. Article 1
THE IDEALS OF FREEMASONRY. Article 2
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 5
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NEW MUSIC. Article 9
Selections from Recent Poetry. Article 9
DE CORONA. Article 10
THE AGE OF CONCEIT. Article 10
PARIS UNDER NAPOLEON III. Article 10
INAUGURATION OF THE EOS LODGE AT CREFELD.* Article 11
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 13
METRO POLITAN. Article 13
PROVINCIAL. Article 13
MARK MASONRY. Article 15
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 17
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 17
AMERICA. Article 17
AUSTRALIA. Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 18
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

that Nomao is supposed to be the ancient' Numancia . ' Wo regret that ive are unable to afford any information respecting the supposed connexion of Jfumiio with the Templars . " MASONIC VOLUNTEER TOAST . At a time like the present when the volunteer movement is uppermost in the minds of our countrymena note taken from

, Laurence Dennett's Ahiinau Rezon , may be acceptable . Under the head of "Toasts originally given in the-Orange Lodge of Belfast , No . 257 , " the seventeenth is , "May the gallant VOLUNTEERS OE IRELAND invariably unite in brotherly tics , and be as faithful to each other as Freemasons have ever been found to be . " —FULL CORPORAL .

DRIVING or PILES . When I was a young Mason , some years since , I met with an aged provincial brother in whose Masonic discourse I ivas much interested . As he had not been in a Lodge for many years , he asked me various questions , and amongst them how often we worked "driving of piles ? " I told him I did not understand himanil asked for an explanationwhich he would not ivebut

, , g , seemed to be more shy of talking to mc afterwards . Since that time I have often inquired what is meant by "driving of piles , " but have not succeeded . Can you or your correspondents tell me' ?—AIAX . —[ Scud us your full names , the Lodge you belong to , Masonic rank , & c , and wc will forward to you a description of " driving of piles . " ]

KNIGHTS TEMPLAR . Does the " Order ofthe Temple" at jiresent exist in France ? If so , who is its Grancl Master ? and what number of preceptories does it represent ? Is the ancient York Encampment still working ? Or , if dormant , how long has it been so ? And on what authority does that and the Encampments of Bath ancl Bristol base their antiquity ? If

any brother could furnish your readers with a cojiy of the " Charter of Transmission'' of the former body , and a comjilete copy of the ori ginal Statutes of the Temple , by St . Bernard , they would confer a favour on many of your Templar readers , to whom tbey arc totally unknown . At the revival of Tcmplarism , under our justly esteemed Grand MasterCol . Tynteour Grand Conclave made alterations

, , many , rejecting matter which ought never to have been rejected , and retaining what ought to have been rejected . AVhy , tor instance , ( as they have done iu America ) , did they not reject the expensive (_ Masonic ) apron?—and when giving the title of Grand Master to Col . Tynte , change that of Provincial Grand Commander to Prior —that title being at jiresent unmeaningly retained in the list of officers of Grand Conclave . The ancient term for private

Encampments was also "Preceptories , " or " Coinmauclcries , " by which name they-should still be known . If our Grand Conclave would establish more intimate relations with those of Scotland , Ireland , France , America , and elsewhere , it mi ght lead to more uniformity than at present exists , remove many anomalies which disfigure ' Tcmplarism—and perhaps pave the way to a Grand JIaster for the whole existing Order . Templary , also , having no real connexion with Freemasonry , should also have a separate ancl individual recognition from the British Government . ^

MOUVEMEST REFORMATEUR . | In a recent number of the " Revue Internationale , '" published at Geneva , an article entitled " Fraiicmaeonnerie "—being a review of Dr . Bcrchtolil ' s work " Isis " ( Fribourg 1859 ) , contains the ensuing jiassagc : — ' Le Doetoiu' Berchtold par / lit ignorer le mouvement reformateur qui s ' est tcriiiinc an Convent de Wilhelmsbad ( 1783 ) et qui engeiidi

, a -c , comme il lo dit du resto en deux ligncs , le . lyslcmereclifie de la Franc' Mucomicric Ecomiise . De ce systeme , aucu ' n rituel , aucune fomnile n ' a etc mise , au jour ; tout est reste manuscrit clans les archives des Luges nctifu-cs , en sorte qu ' on se figurerait en vain connaitre les vcritablos niystei-cs maeoniiiqiics d ' aprcs les publications qui circulcnt dans lo nionclo . Une publication pareillc no saiirait etre complete . " If any reader of periodical willthrough its columns

_ your , , iiitorm me in what book is to be found an account of tiie above mentioned " mouvement reformateur , " he will confer an obligation on several brothers resident in tin ' s department of France . —CHARLES PI . - RTON COOPER , Chateau Frampas , Montiereniler , Haute Manic , June lGth , 1 SC 0 .

THE DUKE OF WELLINGTON A MASON . Ill last week ' s number of the Freemasons' Magazine , just come to hand , a query is put to mc on a question often solved before . When youth and health admitted , 1 bad the honour of membershi p in No . -19-1 , ami often saw the signature of our late illustrious

brother , as any worthy Master Mason may , for I believe that the Lodge meets the third Monday of each month at the Freemasons ' Hall here , presided over by an excellent and experienced brother , Wm . Allen , and I have sonic recollection of Bro . Elisha D . Cooke having mentioned to me bis having seen the book and signature , when here , at the Grantl Secretary ' s office . I should be , myself , unwilling to seek permission to take tracings therefrom for what I deem a very unimportant purpose , were I even well enough . — M . FURNEI . L , 33 ° , Dublin .

THE LETTER G . Where can I obtain a satisfactory exjilanation of the Masonic use of the letter G- ?—G-. G . —[ In the second degree . Also in Ashe ' s Masonic Manual , Argument xii ., is entitled On the letter ( J , and the Relation existing between Geometry and the Masonic Institution . ' ]

VISHNU AND BRAHMA . I am anxious to trace any Masonic features that are to be found in the worship of Vishnu and Brahma . Please to indicate what are the first authorities to consult . —X . E . C . —[ The most jicrfcct work on the Deities of India and their rites is Moor ' s Hindu Pantheon , -tto ., London , 1810 . To ivhich may be added the Aseialick Researches ; or , Transactions of the Society instituted in Bengal for inquiring into the History and Antiquities , Arts , Sciences , and Literature of Asia , 20 vols ., published at Calcutta , in -ito ., between 1788 and 1730 . ]

SAMUEL PRIClIARJt ) . What is known of Samuel Prichartl , the chemist , author of Masonry Dissected ?—CIURURGEON . PROFESSIONAL LODGES . Which arc the Lodges iu which jirofcssional brethren , of all the liberal arts and sciences , most do congregate ?—C . A . B .

LODGE ACCOMMODATION . In a late number of the Magazine there is an inquiry as to the plan of a Masonic Hall . I , too , should be glad to know what constitutes the best disposition of apartments for holding , in the same building , at various times , Lodges , 11 . A . Chapters , Encampments , 11 . C . Chapters , Consistories , & c . ?•—D . E . F .

GRAND TREAS L'RERS . Is there any list , easily to be consulted , in which the names ancl dates of appointments of the Grand Treasurers of Grand Lodge are jircservccl ?—B . THE NUMUKR SEVEN . As I intend holding a discussion whether "three or seven is the

most perfect number , " would you inform mc through the Magazine , where I can get the best information on the subject . And also which you , think is the most perfect . —J ' . M . K . —[ Consult Oliver Byrne On the Power of Numbers , for the value of the two numbers in relation to each other . For their mystical perfection the Talmud , Cabbala , Mishna , Holy Bible , and Koran , will give a large amount of information . For their Masonic signification ,

refer to Dr . Oliver ' s Landmarks , Mackey ' s Lexicon , the Ceremonies and Lectures , in which there arc countless allusions to both the above numbers . "We must decline to give our own opinion on the latter portion of our correspondent ' s note , because in answering a large circle of inquirers , wc do not pledge ourselves to read up any abstruse proposition for one ( and this subject properly studied ivould swallow up weeks of reading before a definite opinion could be formed ) , while wc hope to give such general and accessible information that may be useful to ' all . ]

KEW GAIIDKXS . —The tender of Messrs . Cubitt & Co ., of Pimlico , for the erection ofthe great Conservatory and Winter Garden in the pleasuregrounds and arboretum adjoining the Botanic Gardens , at Kew , has been accepted by the First Commissioner of Her Majesty ' s Office of Works , and the ivork commenced . It will be a trifle short of 700 feet in length , covering somewhat about the same space as the Great Eastern steamship , and probably the grandest purely horticultural building in the

world . It will occupy au extensive area on the right hand side of the grand lawn avenue , leading from the Palm House to the Pagoda . Tho whole noble domain of 0 ( 10 acres is now in all its floral beauty and splendour , and beautiful almost beyond description . The new lake of live acres , with beautifully wooded islands , is situated midway between the Palm House and the Thames , ou tho left of the Zion vista . The Gardens open daily at one o ' clock ; on Sundays at two ; closing daily at sunset . All the Plant Houses and the Museums arc strictly shut at six . Free admission for all .

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