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Grand Lodge.

GRAND LODGE .

LONDON , SATURDAY , JUNJE 10 , 1865 .

Tlie Quarterly Communication of Grand Lodge Avas lield on Wednesday , and Ave regret to say that tlie Deputy Grand Master was unable to attend , as , in the necessary absence of tlie Grand Master , we could have wished he should have done . His

place was , however , filled by Bro . Dobie , the Provincial Grand Master for Surrey , one of the best Provincial Grand Masters in the Craft , and a brother who is deservedly respected by all who have tlie honour of his acquaintance . Grand Lodge Avas very thinly attended , and Avho can wonder at it , with weather such as Ave

are now enjoying . The minutes of the last Grand Lodge having * been confirmed , Bro . Dobie moved an address of condolence to the Grand Master on the loss of the Countess , in most appropriate language ,

which AA as seconded by the Rev . Bro . Dr . BoAvles , Provincial Grand Master for Herefordshire . Of course , the address Avas carried by acclamationbut it does not appear in the pages of the FREE - MASONS MAGAZINE—that arch representative of

Bumbledom and red tape denominated the Grand Secretary , and generally knoivn as the Grand Obstructive , having refused our reporter permission to copy it , a courtesy given in every other society but that of Freemasons . We daresay , hoAvever , it Avill see the light in due time , i . e ., when the Craft and the noble Earl have alike

forgotten all about it . After some formal business and the scratching a couple of lodges , a short discussion took place as to whether the wliole of the money received for the Loclge of Benevolence should be expended as

received , or a portion invested . We are altogether opposed to niggardly votes , but must still think that whenever anything can be fairly saA ed for investment it is most desirable . The Building Committee ' s report was adopted without discussion .

The annual report of the Royal Benevolent Institution for Aged Freemasons and their Widows having been received , a memorial was read from the Grand Chapter of Scotland enquiring * —¦ 1 st . If the Grand Lodge of England is prepared

to sanction the Avorking of the Mark Master ' s degree in England . 2 nd . Whether the Grand Lodge is prepared to recognise the body styling itself "The Grand

Lodge of Mark Masters of England , Wales , and the Colonies and Possessions of the British CroAvn " as the lawful head of the Order of Mark Masters , in England . Bro . Mclntyre , the Grand Registrar , replied

that the Grand Lodgo could not recognise the degree , and a priori it cannot recognise the "body styling , " & c . Had the Grand Master acted firmly from the first , and deprived of office all parties taking part in the UOAV Grand Lodge , it must have

died out . We are Mark Masons ourselves , and shall continue to report their proceedings so longas there is not energy enough at head quarters to make authority respected ¦ but Ave hold the opinion

Ave ever did , that the establishment of the English Grand Lods-e of Mark Masters Avas a mistake—and something more .- By-the-bye , hoAV was it Grand Lodge took the trouble to consider a memorial from the Grand Chapter of Scotland , a body it

does not recognise ? In reply to an appeal for support from the Provincial Grand Lodge of Victoria to the proposed formation of a local Masonic Asylum for Aged Decayed Freemasons and their WidoAvs , a Girls '

School and a Boys' School for Orphan Children , and those of Decayed Freemasons , as nearly similar as circumstances will permit to those established under the sanction of the United Grand

Lodge of England , the Grand Registrar expressed his concurrence in the object our Australian brethren have in vieAV , but moved that at present pecuniary assistance could not be given . This Avas agreed to . In truth , Grand Lodge derives

nothing from the Colonies , and though our Colonial brethren may come on the funds of the Lodge of Benevolence , there are no funds to apply as wished . We hope , hoAvever , that some day we may haA e such a plethora of Avealth as to be able

to assist as many such schemes as can be promoted . The Provincial Grand Lodge of Victoria must set to work irrespective of England , remembering that Jove helps those Avho help themselves . A memorial Avas read from the District Grand

Lodge of South Australia , setting forth certain alleged inconveniences , and praying—1 st . That District Grand Lodges be assimilated in them functions to the Grand Loclge . 2 nd . That they shall not cease to exist on' the

death or resignation of the Provincial Grand Master . 3 rd . That they shall have the power of investigating , regulating , and deciding all matters rela-

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GRAND LODGE. Article 1
MASONIC DUTIES. Article 2
Untitled Article 4
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 4
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 6
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 7
METROPOLITAN. Article 11
PROVINCIAL. Article 11
ROYAL ARCH. Article 14
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 14
Obituary. Article 15
BRO. LE GENDRE N. STARKIE, Article 15
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Grand Lodge.

GRAND LODGE .

LONDON , SATURDAY , JUNJE 10 , 1865 .

Tlie Quarterly Communication of Grand Lodge Avas lield on Wednesday , and Ave regret to say that tlie Deputy Grand Master was unable to attend , as , in the necessary absence of tlie Grand Master , we could have wished he should have done . His

place was , however , filled by Bro . Dobie , the Provincial Grand Master for Surrey , one of the best Provincial Grand Masters in the Craft , and a brother who is deservedly respected by all who have tlie honour of his acquaintance . Grand Lodge Avas very thinly attended , and Avho can wonder at it , with weather such as Ave

are now enjoying . The minutes of the last Grand Lodge having * been confirmed , Bro . Dobie moved an address of condolence to the Grand Master on the loss of the Countess , in most appropriate language ,

which AA as seconded by the Rev . Bro . Dr . BoAvles , Provincial Grand Master for Herefordshire . Of course , the address Avas carried by acclamationbut it does not appear in the pages of the FREE - MASONS MAGAZINE—that arch representative of

Bumbledom and red tape denominated the Grand Secretary , and generally knoivn as the Grand Obstructive , having refused our reporter permission to copy it , a courtesy given in every other society but that of Freemasons . We daresay , hoAvever , it Avill see the light in due time , i . e ., when the Craft and the noble Earl have alike

forgotten all about it . After some formal business and the scratching a couple of lodges , a short discussion took place as to whether the wliole of the money received for the Loclge of Benevolence should be expended as

received , or a portion invested . We are altogether opposed to niggardly votes , but must still think that whenever anything can be fairly saA ed for investment it is most desirable . The Building Committee ' s report was adopted without discussion .

The annual report of the Royal Benevolent Institution for Aged Freemasons and their Widows having been received , a memorial was read from the Grand Chapter of Scotland enquiring * —¦ 1 st . If the Grand Lodge of England is prepared

to sanction the Avorking of the Mark Master ' s degree in England . 2 nd . Whether the Grand Lodge is prepared to recognise the body styling itself "The Grand

Lodge of Mark Masters of England , Wales , and the Colonies and Possessions of the British CroAvn " as the lawful head of the Order of Mark Masters , in England . Bro . Mclntyre , the Grand Registrar , replied

that the Grand Lodgo could not recognise the degree , and a priori it cannot recognise the "body styling , " & c . Had the Grand Master acted firmly from the first , and deprived of office all parties taking part in the UOAV Grand Lodge , it must have

died out . We are Mark Masons ourselves , and shall continue to report their proceedings so longas there is not energy enough at head quarters to make authority respected ¦ but Ave hold the opinion

Ave ever did , that the establishment of the English Grand Lods-e of Mark Masters Avas a mistake—and something more .- By-the-bye , hoAV was it Grand Lodge took the trouble to consider a memorial from the Grand Chapter of Scotland , a body it

does not recognise ? In reply to an appeal for support from the Provincial Grand Lodge of Victoria to the proposed formation of a local Masonic Asylum for Aged Decayed Freemasons and their WidoAvs , a Girls '

School and a Boys' School for Orphan Children , and those of Decayed Freemasons , as nearly similar as circumstances will permit to those established under the sanction of the United Grand

Lodge of England , the Grand Registrar expressed his concurrence in the object our Australian brethren have in vieAV , but moved that at present pecuniary assistance could not be given . This Avas agreed to . In truth , Grand Lodge derives

nothing from the Colonies , and though our Colonial brethren may come on the funds of the Lodge of Benevolence , there are no funds to apply as wished . We hope , hoAvever , that some day we may haA e such a plethora of Avealth as to be able

to assist as many such schemes as can be promoted . The Provincial Grand Lodge of Victoria must set to work irrespective of England , remembering that Jove helps those Avho help themselves . A memorial Avas read from the District Grand

Lodge of South Australia , setting forth certain alleged inconveniences , and praying—1 st . That District Grand Lodges be assimilated in them functions to the Grand Loclge . 2 nd . That they shall not cease to exist on' the

death or resignation of the Provincial Grand Master . 3 rd . That they shall have the power of investigating , regulating , and deciding all matters rela-

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