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and would endeavour [ to pay more , the matter would have been disposed of . " Bro . DOUGLAS . — "The ' small sum' was more than half the amount claimed . " The OFFG . PEOV . G . M . — "Does any other brother wish to address the District Grand Lodge ? Now , Bro . Douglas , we are ready to hear you in reply . "

Bvo . DOUGLAS . — "R . AV . sir , although Bro . Roberts thinks it doubtful whether it is twenty months since I became a Master , it is nevertheless a fact that it is now eleven years since I received from you , R . W . Sir , the Hiram of Lodge 279 , when R . AV . Bro . W . Clark ' . was my Senior Warden . After ruling the lodge for two years , I left 200 rupees in the hands of the Treasurer . This is my answer to Bro . Roberts , and the records of Lodge 279 will bear

me out in my statement , AVith regard to what has fallen from Bros . Sandeman and Clark , that I have shown contumacy , I have already explained , than when I received the letter of the Provincial Grand Secretary requiring me to appear in the District Grand Lodge , I referred to Bros . Manly and Brown for their opinion as to whether , since I had just sent iu SO rupees -to the Provincial Grand Treasurer , there was any longer a necessity that

I should appear . They agreed with me that , under circumstances which , by the payment of the money , had altered since the Resolution had been passed , there was no longer any necessity that I should appear . If the District Grand Lodge thinks I have acted differently from other Masters in not keeping the moneys in my immediate custody , have I not a right to ask it to punish those brethren who have , by default , placed me in this position ? The outstandings of the lodge amount to Rs . 700 . If the District Grand Lodge will help me to recover that amount , I will pay its dues ancl make over the balance to the Fund of Benevolence . "

Tne OFFG . PEOV . G . M . — "I quite concur in the opinions expressed by Bros . Roberts and Sandeman . I believe that there must be very feiv Masters unacquainted with the rule which has been quoted from the Constitutions . The Master of a lodge may have confidence in his Treasurer ; but he himself must be reponsible for certain payments . The District Grand Lodge cannot look to the members of Bro . Douglas' lodge to make good the deficiency . Bro . Douglas has stated that it must be for one of three reasons whhe

y has been summoned to show cause wh y he should not be expelled , viz ., embezzlement , contumacy , or neglect of duty . No one has charged him with embezzlement ; but as to contumacy , I would observe that it is more than two years now since Lodge 740 was extinguished , that a long correspondence with Bvo . Douglas ensued , that no money was forthcoming , that sometimes the Provincial Grand Secretary could get no replfrom himand that at last the

y , subject ivas brought before the District Grand Lodge . The correspondence would show whether a proper respect for authority has been evinced by Bro . Douglas . If I were to consult my own feelings , I would get rid of such a disagreeable [ subject by writing off the amount to profit and loss . But the District Grand Lodge are of opinion that serious notice should be taken of Bro . Douglas ' uumiuc sentence oi ivouici too ill

... ____ . expulsion , However , oe severe a case like this , and should be reserved only for heinous offences , like that recenily committed by Mr . Sier . " Bro . ROBEEIS then moved the following resolution : — " That the vote of the District Grand Lodge be taken as to whether a neglect of authority and a spirit of contumacy have been evinced by Bro . Douglas , and that , in the event of the vote being in the affirmative , he be admonished by the Officiating Prov . Grand Master . "

Bro . JEsrans'GS , P . S . G . AV ., was of opinion that Bro . Douglas should be punished with suspension for a certain term , and that if , at the expiration of that term , it should appear that the dues yet remained unpaid , the sentence should be extended , until such time as the matter was adjusted . He , therefore , moved the following amendment : — " That Bro . Douglas be suspended from his Masonic privileges for six months , and further , until he has paid his dues . "

The amendment having been seconded by AV . Bro . AV . CLAEK , C . E ., was put to the vote , when the Deacons counted 16 votes in support of it . The original proposition , which had been seconded by R . AV . Bro . H . HOWE , P . D . Prov . G . M ., ivas then put to the vote , and fifteen votes were counted in support of it . The amendment was therefore carried .

The OFFIG . PEOV . G . M . — " Certain Committees appointed by me have been sitting , —I should say that 1 do not know whether they have been sitting or sleeping , for only one of them , viz ., the ' King Memorial Committee , ' has submitted a report to me , which the Prov . G . Sec . will read . " Bro . C . J . EVAKS , AV . M . of Lodge 2 S 2— "R . AV . Sir , I beg to draw your attention to the presence among us of a brother under suspension from his Masonic privileges . "

The OFFG . PEOV . G . M . — " Bro . Douglas , it is necessary that you should retire . " Bro . DOUGLAS— "R . AV . Sir , I have l > een summoned to appear here , and I mean to remain . " Bro . HOAVE—R . AV- Sir , if Bro . Douglas remains , he will only be showing further contumacy . " After some demurBro . Douglas roseand was leaving the

lodge-, , room without saluting the Chair . AVhen the omission ivas pointed out to him , he turned and sainted the Chair as a Scotch Mason . The PEOV . G . SEC . then proceeded to read the report of the King Memoiial Committee , from which it appeared that the inscription was being engraved , and that the monument was nearly ready ; but it was recommended that the pedestalwhich resembled a " stone

, baptismal font , " should be returned to the sculptor , and that the ebony pedestal originally proposed by the Committee should be substituted . The beams of the third floor were not considered strong enongh to bear the weight of the stony mass , which had been constructed at the suggestion of our talented and much respected Bro . AV . Clark .

Bro . W . CLAEK , C-E . — " I did certainly suggest that the pedestal should be one of stone , and that it should resemble a rough ashlar ; but I never contemplated that a whole block would be excavated and fashioned to resemble a ' baptismal font . ' I am of opinion that four light slabs , carved exteriorly so as to resemble a rough ashlar , and joined together , would form a far more appropriate pedestal than a wooden one . It is opposed to good taste to place a handsome marble monument on something ivhich might be easily mistaken for a teapoy . I would again suggest to the Committee to have a stone pedestal , and I will readily give my aid if they should require it .

Bro . HOAVE . — " The committee will be happy to avail themselves of the aid kindly preferred by Bro . Clark . " The OFFG . PEOV . G . M . — " Then there are the Committee for preparing a schehle for the erection of a Alasonic Hall , the Musical Instrument Committee , and the Smith Testimonial Committee . In regard to the first , I am happy to say that the building scheme has been taken in hand by our Provincial Junior Grand AVarden ,

and 1 yet hope to see some feasible plan laid before the District Grand Lodge . The subject of the Smith Testimonial is in the hands of Bro . Roberts . I am glad to say that I have no exclusions to announce from any of the' Lodges . Peace and harmony prevail . At Roy Bareilly a new lodge has been established , making the fourth in the Province of Oude . The petition for a AVarrant was despatched by the last mail . A portion of the term of suspension awarded to

Bro . J . S . Collins has been cancelled , and the lodges have been informed by a circular of his restoration to his Masonic privileges . He hacl cetainly failed in his duty , but he ivas under the mischievous influence of his Secretary . You are all aware of the circumstances under which the Warrant of Lodge Marine was impudently sent direct to England hy Mr . Sier , who was subsequently expelled from Freemasonry on another charge . This AVarrant I had myself made over to the Lodge a few years before , when it ivas revived . Hearing

that the warrant had been sent to England , I wrote to the Grand Secretary , asking him to return it . He was at first of opinion that the present members , to whom I had granted a dispensation , should apply for it as they would for a warrant in abeyance . I held , on the other hand , that it should be viewed as stolen property , and should , therefore , be returned to those to whom it rightfully belonged . In the propriety of this recommendation the Grand Secretary at length concurred ; and it is now in my power to i est ore it .

for the second time , in the District Grand Lodge , to the Master cf the Lodge . AV . Bro . Evans , —I have much pleasure in maki _ i : _ r over this warrant to you . From my knowledge of you . I do so with great confidence !"

AV . Bro . EVAXS ( advancing to the E . Pedest .. ! .. —• ' R . W . Sir ! I receive this warrant from your hand with great pride ; and I also feel grateful to you for the manner in which you have exerted yourself to regain possession of it for the lodge . " The OFFG . P . G . M . — " In the minutes of our last proceedings it is recorded that the Cawupove Lodge had become extinct . Bro . Bliss , formerly of Calcutta , and other brethren , being derious of

reviving it , I granted them a dispensation to commence work , but experienced some difficulty afterwards in getting a renewal of the old warrant , the Grand Secretary being of opinion that some of the old members should join in the petition for it . The mutiny , however , had swept off all the former members . The brethren who were desirous of working under the old warrant , therefore , gave up their project in despair , with the intention of applying for a new warrant , and it ivas announced that the lodge had become extinct . I have , however , since been informed that the Grand Master has agreed to sanction the renewal of the old warrant .

“The Freemasons' Monthly Magazine: 1861-12-14, Page 15” Masonic Periodicals Online, Library and Museum of Freemasonry, 9 May 2025, django:8000/periodicals/mmr/issues/mmr_14121861/page/15/.
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HONORARY GRAND OFFICERS. Article 1
A SUSPENSION IN INDIA. Article 1
THE MASON'S LAST REQUEST.—A SKETCH OF THE BATTLE-FIELD . Article 2
ARCHITECTURE AND ARCHÆOLOGY. Article 3
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 3
Literature. Article 5
Mr. Beeton's Publications. Article 6
GRATIFYING TESTIMONIALS. Article 7
NOTES ON LITERATURE, SCIENCE, AND ART. Article 7
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 8
EAST LANCASHIRE. Article 9
GRAND CONOLAVE AND THE BOARD OF GENERAL PURPOSES. Article 9
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 10
METROPOLITAN. Article 10
PROVINCIAL. Article 11
SCOTLAND. Article 12
INDIA. Article 13
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 17
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 19
Obituary. Article 19
THE WEEK. Article 19
SPECIAL NOTICE. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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India.

and would endeavour [ to pay more , the matter would have been disposed of . " Bro . DOUGLAS . — "The ' small sum' was more than half the amount claimed . " The OFFG . PEOV . G . M . — "Does any other brother wish to address the District Grand Lodge ? Now , Bro . Douglas , we are ready to hear you in reply . "

Bvo . DOUGLAS . — "R . AV . sir , although Bro . Roberts thinks it doubtful whether it is twenty months since I became a Master , it is nevertheless a fact that it is now eleven years since I received from you , R . W . Sir , the Hiram of Lodge 279 , when R . AV . Bro . W . Clark ' . was my Senior Warden . After ruling the lodge for two years , I left 200 rupees in the hands of the Treasurer . This is my answer to Bro . Roberts , and the records of Lodge 279 will bear

me out in my statement , AVith regard to what has fallen from Bros . Sandeman and Clark , that I have shown contumacy , I have already explained , than when I received the letter of the Provincial Grand Secretary requiring me to appear in the District Grand Lodge , I referred to Bros . Manly and Brown for their opinion as to whether , since I had just sent iu SO rupees -to the Provincial Grand Treasurer , there was any longer a necessity that

I should appear . They agreed with me that , under circumstances which , by the payment of the money , had altered since the Resolution had been passed , there was no longer any necessity that I should appear . If the District Grand Lodge thinks I have acted differently from other Masters in not keeping the moneys in my immediate custody , have I not a right to ask it to punish those brethren who have , by default , placed me in this position ? The outstandings of the lodge amount to Rs . 700 . If the District Grand Lodge will help me to recover that amount , I will pay its dues ancl make over the balance to the Fund of Benevolence . "

Tne OFFG . PEOV . G . M . — "I quite concur in the opinions expressed by Bros . Roberts and Sandeman . I believe that there must be very feiv Masters unacquainted with the rule which has been quoted from the Constitutions . The Master of a lodge may have confidence in his Treasurer ; but he himself must be reponsible for certain payments . The District Grand Lodge cannot look to the members of Bro . Douglas' lodge to make good the deficiency . Bro . Douglas has stated that it must be for one of three reasons whhe

y has been summoned to show cause wh y he should not be expelled , viz ., embezzlement , contumacy , or neglect of duty . No one has charged him with embezzlement ; but as to contumacy , I would observe that it is more than two years now since Lodge 740 was extinguished , that a long correspondence with Bvo . Douglas ensued , that no money was forthcoming , that sometimes the Provincial Grand Secretary could get no replfrom himand that at last the

y , subject ivas brought before the District Grand Lodge . The correspondence would show whether a proper respect for authority has been evinced by Bro . Douglas . If I were to consult my own feelings , I would get rid of such a disagreeable [ subject by writing off the amount to profit and loss . But the District Grand Lodge are of opinion that serious notice should be taken of Bro . Douglas ' uumiuc sentence oi ivouici too ill

... ____ . expulsion , However , oe severe a case like this , and should be reserved only for heinous offences , like that recenily committed by Mr . Sier . " Bro . ROBEEIS then moved the following resolution : — " That the vote of the District Grand Lodge be taken as to whether a neglect of authority and a spirit of contumacy have been evinced by Bro . Douglas , and that , in the event of the vote being in the affirmative , he be admonished by the Officiating Prov . Grand Master . "

Bro . JEsrans'GS , P . S . G . AV ., was of opinion that Bro . Douglas should be punished with suspension for a certain term , and that if , at the expiration of that term , it should appear that the dues yet remained unpaid , the sentence should be extended , until such time as the matter was adjusted . He , therefore , moved the following amendment : — " That Bro . Douglas be suspended from his Masonic privileges for six months , and further , until he has paid his dues . "

The amendment having been seconded by AV . Bro . AV . CLAEK , C . E ., was put to the vote , when the Deacons counted 16 votes in support of it . The original proposition , which had been seconded by R . AV . Bro . H . HOWE , P . D . Prov . G . M ., ivas then put to the vote , and fifteen votes were counted in support of it . The amendment was therefore carried .

The OFFIG . PEOV . G . M . — " Certain Committees appointed by me have been sitting , —I should say that 1 do not know whether they have been sitting or sleeping , for only one of them , viz ., the ' King Memorial Committee , ' has submitted a report to me , which the Prov . G . Sec . will read . " Bro . C . J . EVAKS , AV . M . of Lodge 2 S 2— "R . AV . Sir , I beg to draw your attention to the presence among us of a brother under suspension from his Masonic privileges . "

The OFFG . PEOV . G . M . — " Bro . Douglas , it is necessary that you should retire . " Bro . DOUGLAS— "R . AV . Sir , I have l > een summoned to appear here , and I mean to remain . " Bro . HOAVE—R . AV- Sir , if Bro . Douglas remains , he will only be showing further contumacy . " After some demurBro . Douglas roseand was leaving the

lodge-, , room without saluting the Chair . AVhen the omission ivas pointed out to him , he turned and sainted the Chair as a Scotch Mason . The PEOV . G . SEC . then proceeded to read the report of the King Memoiial Committee , from which it appeared that the inscription was being engraved , and that the monument was nearly ready ; but it was recommended that the pedestalwhich resembled a " stone

, baptismal font , " should be returned to the sculptor , and that the ebony pedestal originally proposed by the Committee should be substituted . The beams of the third floor were not considered strong enongh to bear the weight of the stony mass , which had been constructed at the suggestion of our talented and much respected Bro . AV . Clark .

Bro . W . CLAEK , C-E . — " I did certainly suggest that the pedestal should be one of stone , and that it should resemble a rough ashlar ; but I never contemplated that a whole block would be excavated and fashioned to resemble a ' baptismal font . ' I am of opinion that four light slabs , carved exteriorly so as to resemble a rough ashlar , and joined together , would form a far more appropriate pedestal than a wooden one . It is opposed to good taste to place a handsome marble monument on something ivhich might be easily mistaken for a teapoy . I would again suggest to the Committee to have a stone pedestal , and I will readily give my aid if they should require it .

Bro . HOAVE . — " The committee will be happy to avail themselves of the aid kindly preferred by Bro . Clark . " The OFFG . PEOV . G . M . — " Then there are the Committee for preparing a schehle for the erection of a Alasonic Hall , the Musical Instrument Committee , and the Smith Testimonial Committee . In regard to the first , I am happy to say that the building scheme has been taken in hand by our Provincial Junior Grand AVarden ,

and 1 yet hope to see some feasible plan laid before the District Grand Lodge . The subject of the Smith Testimonial is in the hands of Bro . Roberts . I am glad to say that I have no exclusions to announce from any of the' Lodges . Peace and harmony prevail . At Roy Bareilly a new lodge has been established , making the fourth in the Province of Oude . The petition for a AVarrant was despatched by the last mail . A portion of the term of suspension awarded to

Bro . J . S . Collins has been cancelled , and the lodges have been informed by a circular of his restoration to his Masonic privileges . He hacl cetainly failed in his duty , but he ivas under the mischievous influence of his Secretary . You are all aware of the circumstances under which the Warrant of Lodge Marine was impudently sent direct to England hy Mr . Sier , who was subsequently expelled from Freemasonry on another charge . This AVarrant I had myself made over to the Lodge a few years before , when it ivas revived . Hearing

that the warrant had been sent to England , I wrote to the Grand Secretary , asking him to return it . He was at first of opinion that the present members , to whom I had granted a dispensation , should apply for it as they would for a warrant in abeyance . I held , on the other hand , that it should be viewed as stolen property , and should , therefore , be returned to those to whom it rightfully belonged . In the propriety of this recommendation the Grand Secretary at length concurred ; and it is now in my power to i est ore it .

for the second time , in the District Grand Lodge , to the Master cf the Lodge . AV . Bro . Evans , —I have much pleasure in maki _ i : _ r over this warrant to you . From my knowledge of you . I do so with great confidence !"

AV . Bro . EVAXS ( advancing to the E . Pedest .. ! .. —• ' R . W . Sir ! I receive this warrant from your hand with great pride ; and I also feel grateful to you for the manner in which you have exerted yourself to regain possession of it for the lodge . " The OFFG . P . G . M . — " In the minutes of our last proceedings it is recorded that the Cawupove Lodge had become extinct . Bro . Bliss , formerly of Calcutta , and other brethren , being derious of

reviving it , I granted them a dispensation to commence work , but experienced some difficulty afterwards in getting a renewal of the old warrant , the Grand Secretary being of opinion that some of the old members should join in the petition for it . The mutiny , however , had swept off all the former members . The brethren who were desirous of working under the old warrant , therefore , gave up their project in despair , with the intention of applying for a new warrant , and it ivas announced that the lodge had become extinct . I have , however , since been informed that the Grand Master has agreed to sanction the renewal of the old warrant .

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