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    Article OLD FREEMASONRY BEFORE GRAND LODGE. ← Page 2 of 3 →
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Old Freemasonry Before Grand Lodge.

from Pontefract Castle , where many documents were placed for security during the civil wars ( Anacalypsis page 768 ) ; another valuable admission from a brother of Higgin ' s stamp is as to the

antiquity of the degrees of the " Temple " and of ' Holy Wisdom , " and although he makes no mention of the Eose Croix , yet we know that it was possessed by them . There seems little reason to doubt that the ancient operative and speculative

Craft Masonry of England was similar to that of the Haughfoot Lodge , rather than that of Kilwinning and of Mary ' s Chapel , Edinburgh ; or to doubt that the English General Assemblies , were held pretty regularly during the reign of the

Stuarts , and the supposition that the Civil wars tended to upset the old system and introduce the 1686 system , seems not wide of the mark , for we know that in 1663 such irregularities had occurred that that General Assembly endeavoured to enforce

future obedience to one Grand Master , and enacted that no initiation should be legal unless in a lodge of five of whom two (^ including tlie Master ) were to be operatives of the trade of Freemasonry . Had

-the ancient system been continued m England Sown to 1717 , or even until 1702 , as most modern writers are so anxious to persuade us that it did , we should have been in possession of such lodge minutes as they yet have in Scotland , and the

proof of its having passed into a private association of a different character , is confirmed by such documents as we have , as well as by the absence of such as we ought to have had . As there is no reason to suppose that the degree

of Eoyal Arch can be legitimately separated from the other High Grades with which it has always been associated , so we know , thanks to Bro . Hugh an ' s discovery of D'Assigny ' s work , that

these degrees wore practised at York in 1744 , and probably very long prior thereto , but it seems probable , for various reasons , that a ceremonial revision took place in 1761 on the revival , and that while the sei'ies at York at this time was , 4 ° ,

E . A ., 5 ° K . T ., 6 ° Holy Wisdom , 7 ° Rosy Cross , in the South it was , E . A ., Rosy Cross , Templar and Kadosh , and claiming from the Rosicrucians , but we require further information hereon before we can speak with precision ; and this brings us to

the present position of the Royal Order of Scotland , with an authentic history from 1740 , its legendary history being contrary to all historical research and the views of abont 1750 , viz ., a pure Templar origin from 1314 , for what in the South

of England claimed a Eosicrucian Origin . I am informed on good authority that the first degree of this Order—H . R . M . —is the Ancient Scottish Ceremony of a Master Mason , christianised , and

containing the Word , as was the case in England until Bro . Dunckerley transferred it to the Arch ceremony , the second degree—E . S . Y . C . S . S . — corresponds with the Eose Croix . This points to the selection of the two principal degrees of the

Ancient Eite on the establishment of the Modem Grand Lodge of Scotland in 1736 , and is another proof of traditional antiquity at that time . Regarding the traditional history of the Rose Croix , I may say that any one who reads impartially the

Eosicrucian works will be quite convinced of the influence , that brotherhood exercised on the Speculative Masonry of the present day . I may say that I am aware that Sir Walter Scott , Jacobus van Lennep , Sir Eichard Broun ,

and Dr . Burnes state that the Order of the Temple was continued in Scotland separately from the Hospital till nearly 1500 , but no evidence of this has been tendered , and such charter evidence as

we have access to evidently make against the view . Possibly , with the gift of the Templar estates , the Bruce compelled an equal reception from the Hospital , and we may believe that even in some commaudries the Temple element may

have swamped the Hospital ; the election , also , of David Seaton as Grand Prior of Scotland of the Temple and Hospital , seems never to have been acknowledged at Malta , and there is little doubt that it ensued from this election that with one or two

intervening names which may be discovered , Viscount Dundee was Grand Prior or Master until he fell in 1689 , but whether there was a forced connection with Freemasonry in England ( as there

was doubtless a speculative and unofficial connection both in England and Scotland , long prior thereto ) , is not certain but only traditional . Prince Charles Edward Stuart after his election at Holyrood in 1745 , seems to have appointed

Templar Commanders of Masonic Provinces , that of Germany being the seventh , but this confers no superiority upon the present Chapter General of Scotland , the chances being that the Masonic element was first incorporated in England . Much

has been said in Scotland regarding the ancient nobilitai'y proofs , those writers are probably not aware that they were officially expunged for Britain in 1545 , after the reformation . I am requested to say something here respect-

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Untitled Article 1
MASONIC CONGRESS AT PARTS. Article 1
GRAND ORIENT OF ITALY. Article 2
OLD FREEMASONRY BEFORE GRAND LODGE. Article 3
THE HAUGHFOOT LODGE AND SPECULATIVE MASONRY. Article 5
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 6
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 9
Untitled Article 11
MASONIC MEMS. Article 11
METROPOLITAN. Article 11
PROVINCIAL. Article 12
SCOTLAND. Article 14
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 14
INDIA. Article 16
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
MARK MASONRY. Article 17
REVIEWS. Article 18
LITERATURE, SCIENCE, MUSIC, DRAMA, AND THE FINE ARTS. Article 18
Poetry. Article 19
LIST OF LODGE, &c., MEETINGS FOR WEEK ENDING 23RD OCTOBER, 1869. Article 19
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Old Freemasonry Before Grand Lodge.

from Pontefract Castle , where many documents were placed for security during the civil wars ( Anacalypsis page 768 ) ; another valuable admission from a brother of Higgin ' s stamp is as to the

antiquity of the degrees of the " Temple " and of ' Holy Wisdom , " and although he makes no mention of the Eose Croix , yet we know that it was possessed by them . There seems little reason to doubt that the ancient operative and speculative

Craft Masonry of England was similar to that of the Haughfoot Lodge , rather than that of Kilwinning and of Mary ' s Chapel , Edinburgh ; or to doubt that the English General Assemblies , were held pretty regularly during the reign of the

Stuarts , and the supposition that the Civil wars tended to upset the old system and introduce the 1686 system , seems not wide of the mark , for we know that in 1663 such irregularities had occurred that that General Assembly endeavoured to enforce

future obedience to one Grand Master , and enacted that no initiation should be legal unless in a lodge of five of whom two (^ including tlie Master ) were to be operatives of the trade of Freemasonry . Had

-the ancient system been continued m England Sown to 1717 , or even until 1702 , as most modern writers are so anxious to persuade us that it did , we should have been in possession of such lodge minutes as they yet have in Scotland , and the

proof of its having passed into a private association of a different character , is confirmed by such documents as we have , as well as by the absence of such as we ought to have had . As there is no reason to suppose that the degree

of Eoyal Arch can be legitimately separated from the other High Grades with which it has always been associated , so we know , thanks to Bro . Hugh an ' s discovery of D'Assigny ' s work , that

these degrees wore practised at York in 1744 , and probably very long prior thereto , but it seems probable , for various reasons , that a ceremonial revision took place in 1761 on the revival , and that while the sei'ies at York at this time was , 4 ° ,

E . A ., 5 ° K . T ., 6 ° Holy Wisdom , 7 ° Rosy Cross , in the South it was , E . A ., Rosy Cross , Templar and Kadosh , and claiming from the Rosicrucians , but we require further information hereon before we can speak with precision ; and this brings us to

the present position of the Royal Order of Scotland , with an authentic history from 1740 , its legendary history being contrary to all historical research and the views of abont 1750 , viz ., a pure Templar origin from 1314 , for what in the South

of England claimed a Eosicrucian Origin . I am informed on good authority that the first degree of this Order—H . R . M . —is the Ancient Scottish Ceremony of a Master Mason , christianised , and

containing the Word , as was the case in England until Bro . Dunckerley transferred it to the Arch ceremony , the second degree—E . S . Y . C . S . S . — corresponds with the Eose Croix . This points to the selection of the two principal degrees of the

Ancient Eite on the establishment of the Modem Grand Lodge of Scotland in 1736 , and is another proof of traditional antiquity at that time . Regarding the traditional history of the Rose Croix , I may say that any one who reads impartially the

Eosicrucian works will be quite convinced of the influence , that brotherhood exercised on the Speculative Masonry of the present day . I may say that I am aware that Sir Walter Scott , Jacobus van Lennep , Sir Eichard Broun ,

and Dr . Burnes state that the Order of the Temple was continued in Scotland separately from the Hospital till nearly 1500 , but no evidence of this has been tendered , and such charter evidence as

we have access to evidently make against the view . Possibly , with the gift of the Templar estates , the Bruce compelled an equal reception from the Hospital , and we may believe that even in some commaudries the Temple element may

have swamped the Hospital ; the election , also , of David Seaton as Grand Prior of Scotland of the Temple and Hospital , seems never to have been acknowledged at Malta , and there is little doubt that it ensued from this election that with one or two

intervening names which may be discovered , Viscount Dundee was Grand Prior or Master until he fell in 1689 , but whether there was a forced connection with Freemasonry in England ( as there

was doubtless a speculative and unofficial connection both in England and Scotland , long prior thereto ) , is not certain but only traditional . Prince Charles Edward Stuart after his election at Holyrood in 1745 , seems to have appointed

Templar Commanders of Masonic Provinces , that of Germany being the seventh , but this confers no superiority upon the present Chapter General of Scotland , the chances being that the Masonic element was first incorporated in England . Much

has been said in Scotland regarding the ancient nobilitai'y proofs , those writers are probably not aware that they were officially expunged for Britain in 1545 , after the reformation . I am requested to say something here respect-

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