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and that those Companions were naturally of opinion , that if such were the case , the members of the Scotch Chapter should , in like manner , be refused admittance as visitors in our Chapters . Such an important step , apparently so fraught with serious consequences , no Chapter could have taken of its own authority ; and I have therefore availed myself of the earliest opportunity to remind Principals of Chapters , and all other Companions , that under Bye Law XVII . of the District Grand Chapter , all matters of complaint should be submitted to the Prov . Grand Superintendent , through the prescribed channel of communication .

In order to ascertain clearly the cause of the dissatisfaction I allude to , I have procured from the Scotch Chapter a statement , which is as follows : — "The mode of admitting an English Companion into our Chapter is thus : —he can either stay out until the candidates return , or come in and assist in opening the Chapter , and after the minutes of the previous Convocation are read and the ballot gone through , he can go out with the Officers who are sent to examine and prepare the candidates . All our candidates have to be examined outside , individually , in the several degrees of E . A ., E . C ., M . M ., Mark Master , Past Master ,

and Super-Excellent Mason ; then the Scribe and Senior Sojourner report them at the outer door , mentioning who and what they are , & c . On being admitted into the Chapter , each of the Officers of the Chapter separately examine the candidates in the degrees mentioned above . It is during this examination only that the English Companions have to retire , which is reasonable and fair , the degrees of Mark Master , Past Master , and Super-Excellent not being known to , or recognized by the Grand Chapter of England , and therefore are not worked in the English Chapters , consequently cannot be known to English Royal Arch Masons , unless they are affiliated to some Chapter which has the right , by its constitution ,

to confer those degrees , in which case they can of course be present , as ourselves . Neither can we recognize or acknowledge any Mason who may have obtained the secrets of any of the above-mentioned degrees otherwise than from a constituted authority under a R . A . Charter . The English R . A . Companion rejoins us the moment the candidates have completed the examination required of them ; and they continue in the Chapter in all the strictly Arch work . I trust this will explain to you our real position , and that it will satisfy every English R . A . Companion that there is nothing unreasonable , or unmasonic , in requiring them either to stay out or to return after certain degrees , of which they know nothing ,

are worked through . " This statement appears to me to be reasonable . It shows that in Scotch R . A . Masonry there are certain degrees indispensably preliminary to it , which are not recognized by the Grand Chapter of England ; and further , that according to their obligations , they cannot , while those degrees are being worked , admit any

Companion who has not received them in a regularly constituted Chapter . Surely no Mason , whether R . A . or Craft , can expect any Brother , Lodge , or Chapter , to act contrary to duty and to the allegiance due to supreme authority ! 1 think , therefore , that as our Scottish Brethren are at all times willing to admit us , in so far as pure Arch Masonry is concerned ( which is all that oar constitution recognizes ) , we ought to do the same as regards our Chapters , and thereby continue to reciprocate the good feeling which now happily exists between them and us .

I have only to add , that the Prov . Grand Superintendent has authorized me to say , that he fully concurs in the view taken by me ; and that it is his earnest wish that nothing may occur that is likely to cause any offence to our Brethren of the Scottish constitution . J . J . L . HOFF , D . Prov . Grand Supt . [ It is much to be regretted that a conference cannot be brought about between

the Grand Lod ^ e of England , Scotland , and Ireland , with a view of assimilating the working and practice of Masonry in each country . In Scotland , and we believe in Ireland , an English Brother is generally allowed to bo present throughout the subordinate degrees , not recognized in England , upon taking a Masonic obligation' to observe inviolate anything ho may see or hear , contrary to the practice of English Masonry . —El ) . EJf . < b M . llL ] "VOL . III . Y

“The Freemasons' Monthly Magazine: 1857-02-01, Page 81” Masonic Periodicals Online, Library and Museum of Freemasonry, 24 June 2025, django:8000/periodicals/mmr/issues/frm_01021857/page/81/.
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THE GRAND SECRETARY. Article 1
THE MASONIC PRESS AND GRAND LODGE. Article 3
HISTORY OF THE ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 7
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 11
ROYAL FREEMASONS' GIRLS' SCHOOL. Article 12
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 13
PROVINCIAL. Article 25
ROYAL ARCH. Article 61
THE ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE, Article 64
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 67
MARK MASONRY. Article 68
SCOTLAND. Article 68
IRELAND. Article 75
COLONIAL. Article 76
AMERICA, Article 77
INDIA. Article 79
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 82
SUMMARY OF NEWS FOR JANUARY. Article 85
Obituary. Article 91
NOTICE. Article 94
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Iid I A.

and that those Companions were naturally of opinion , that if such were the case , the members of the Scotch Chapter should , in like manner , be refused admittance as visitors in our Chapters . Such an important step , apparently so fraught with serious consequences , no Chapter could have taken of its own authority ; and I have therefore availed myself of the earliest opportunity to remind Principals of Chapters , and all other Companions , that under Bye Law XVII . of the District Grand Chapter , all matters of complaint should be submitted to the Prov . Grand Superintendent , through the prescribed channel of communication .

In order to ascertain clearly the cause of the dissatisfaction I allude to , I have procured from the Scotch Chapter a statement , which is as follows : — "The mode of admitting an English Companion into our Chapter is thus : —he can either stay out until the candidates return , or come in and assist in opening the Chapter , and after the minutes of the previous Convocation are read and the ballot gone through , he can go out with the Officers who are sent to examine and prepare the candidates . All our candidates have to be examined outside , individually , in the several degrees of E . A ., E . C ., M . M ., Mark Master , Past Master ,

and Super-Excellent Mason ; then the Scribe and Senior Sojourner report them at the outer door , mentioning who and what they are , & c . On being admitted into the Chapter , each of the Officers of the Chapter separately examine the candidates in the degrees mentioned above . It is during this examination only that the English Companions have to retire , which is reasonable and fair , the degrees of Mark Master , Past Master , and Super-Excellent not being known to , or recognized by the Grand Chapter of England , and therefore are not worked in the English Chapters , consequently cannot be known to English Royal Arch Masons , unless they are affiliated to some Chapter which has the right , by its constitution ,

to confer those degrees , in which case they can of course be present , as ourselves . Neither can we recognize or acknowledge any Mason who may have obtained the secrets of any of the above-mentioned degrees otherwise than from a constituted authority under a R . A . Charter . The English R . A . Companion rejoins us the moment the candidates have completed the examination required of them ; and they continue in the Chapter in all the strictly Arch work . I trust this will explain to you our real position , and that it will satisfy every English R . A . Companion that there is nothing unreasonable , or unmasonic , in requiring them either to stay out or to return after certain degrees , of which they know nothing ,

are worked through . " This statement appears to me to be reasonable . It shows that in Scotch R . A . Masonry there are certain degrees indispensably preliminary to it , which are not recognized by the Grand Chapter of England ; and further , that according to their obligations , they cannot , while those degrees are being worked , admit any

Companion who has not received them in a regularly constituted Chapter . Surely no Mason , whether R . A . or Craft , can expect any Brother , Lodge , or Chapter , to act contrary to duty and to the allegiance due to supreme authority ! 1 think , therefore , that as our Scottish Brethren are at all times willing to admit us , in so far as pure Arch Masonry is concerned ( which is all that oar constitution recognizes ) , we ought to do the same as regards our Chapters , and thereby continue to reciprocate the good feeling which now happily exists between them and us .

I have only to add , that the Prov . Grand Superintendent has authorized me to say , that he fully concurs in the view taken by me ; and that it is his earnest wish that nothing may occur that is likely to cause any offence to our Brethren of the Scottish constitution . J . J . L . HOFF , D . Prov . Grand Supt . [ It is much to be regretted that a conference cannot be brought about between

the Grand Lod ^ e of England , Scotland , and Ireland , with a view of assimilating the working and practice of Masonry in each country . In Scotland , and we believe in Ireland , an English Brother is generally allowed to bo present throughout the subordinate degrees , not recognized in England , upon taking a Masonic obligation' to observe inviolate anything ho may see or hear , contrary to the practice of English Masonry . —El ) . EJf . < b M . llL ] "VOL . III . Y

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