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Masonic Notes And Queries.

Glasgow Cathedral , 1188 , 1258 . Inch Colme , Abbey 1272 . Raglan Castle , temp . Edward 4 th . TJsk Castle . Valle Crucis Abbey . Chepstow Castle . CaerphillCastle .

y St . Hal ' s Hermitage . St . Mary ' s , Youghal . Dunbrody Abbey , 1216 . Church at Kinsale . St . Oanice , Kilkenny , 1251 . ^ Ardmore Church , Waterford . Drumcliffe ChurchCork .

, Cologne Cathedral , 1248 , 1322 . St . Andrews Church , Cologne . St . Johns Church , Cologne . Church of the Apostles , Cologne . St . Cuniberts Church , Cologne . Strasburg Cathedral , 12 Cent . Rheins Cathedral .

St . Radigonde , Poitiers . Presburg Cathedral . Copenhagen Cathedral . Church at Asseus . St . Mary ' s , Elensbnrg . Roskilde Cathedral , 1150 . Hpsala Cathedral , 1287 .

Church at Tonkoping , 1260 . Drontherm Cathedral . Altenburg Churches , & c . Roman marks from Hersulaneum . „ Hadrian ' s Wall about A . D . 129 . „ „ „ Risingham . „ „ „ Pat Pierce Bridge .

„ „ „ Tower at York . „ „ „ Acton Soott . Aqueduct and Fortifications at Malta . Al-Hadhr , Mesopotamia . Eski Khan . Cistern of 1001 Columns , Constantinople . Pyramids at GizeV 2120 B . C .

. , Wada Yales , on the Jordan . Masada , Dead Sea . The Tajz at Agra . Fortifications at Allahabad . Altogether about 2000 Marks .

GRAND CONCLAVE AND THE BALBWTN ENCAMPMENT . The question as to the Baldwyn or Bristol Encampment owing fealty to the Supreme Grand Master will be set at rest by referring to their own regulations . In them they acknowledge the Dnke of Sussex and his successors as the Grand Masters ; after which conclusive evidence I think the Grand Master should no longer be

subjected to make terms with rebels , at their proposal , but to require of them unconditional and humble application to be re-admitted into the order , which for a time , they have contumaciously forsaken . Their own words are their conviction : — "Laws ancl Regulations , to be observed by the Knights Companions of the Conclave of Baldwyn from time immemorial . 1 . That the

Encampment of Baldwyn from time immemorial , submit to the Grand Encampment of England , under the command of his Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex , our Most Eminent Grand Master , and Ms successors . " Extracted from The Service of Masonic Knights of St . John of Jerusalem , Rhodes , Palestine , and Malta ; lihewise of Masonic Templan-s , of the " Encampment of Baldivyn , from time

immemorial . Stationed in , Bristol . To which are annexed the Regulations of this Encampment 8 vo ., without date . Imprint , Bristol : by Brother Joseph Routh , Narrow Wine-street . The Oath , before printed in the MAGAZINE , is inserted with this heading : " The following Oath was taken by our Provincial G . Superintendent , W . H . Goldwyer , Esq ., on Good Friday , 1813 , and is to be

repeated by each succeeding Grand Commander of tfe Encampment of Baldwyn , in token of his submissies so our Supreme Grand Master , his R . H . the Dukej ? £ Sussex . "—M . C . G . O . > £ < . THE LATE BRO . BETER TE 03 ISON . Was the late Bro . Peter Thomson any relation to Sas well-known brother of the same name , and wh & t ioHges

did he belong to ?—M . H . —[ He was his son . Initiates in the Lion and Lamb Lodge ( No . 227 ) , in DeceoaJirsis * , 1835 , and was W . M . in 1838 . He was a member oS £ fca Jerusalem Chapter ( No . 218 ) , in which he was eK & lfodis * 1849 , served as J . 1854 , H . 1855 , Z . 1856 . He died « s . the 31 st of December , 1861 , ancl at that time heii 4-hQ office of Secretary in his mother lodge , never hawog been , we believe , connected by membership with smoother lodge or chapter than that he was initiated _ asji 3 exalted in . ]

REASONS FOE SECEESY 1 ST JTASONEV . I am often asked "If Masonry is so good as yea represent it , why is it kept secret ? " Assist me wll ) h" « , few reasons to give when I ain next called nponin- 'EiEs way . —FABER . —[ Freemasonry has been denounced .- / asfi suspected , in consequence of its being a secret ortlec Secrecy in all things where secrecy is maintained , is EGS

only consistent with innocence , but is also imperatively enforced by necesssity , as well as demanded by every consideration of policy . The direct benefits flowing from Masonry are , of course , intended for , and sfcoxM be participated in , only by its members— -by those wfeo have been regularly initiated into its mysteries , and contribute to its support . They are secured by a knowlectgs

of a universal language , which is used as a test of brotherhood . This universal language ( universal to llasoKa ) is , under no circumstances , communicated to tbe waBS at large . The words and signs of it are secret , fer'ao communicate them would at once destroy their utility , And , strange as it may appear to the uninitiated , ass ? society professes to have no secrets beyond this . T 5 ies ? e

is little , very little , in the lodge to gratify the eye of fee inquisitive . We do not tempt them with offers to unfdM some mighty mystery ; we can impart to them no superhuman wisdom ; we possess not the elixir of life , near the philosopher's stone , nor the spells of the Tarshaa ^ we cannot and do not profess to be bound by anyfes but such as are consistent with our duty towards

oneselves and families , our neighbours and our God . AbasS the general nature of lodge transactions , every one lam ® can know as much as any of its members , but for fear of any misapprehension on this subject , we would 'brie-Sy state that nowhere are order and decorum more strictly enforced than in our lodges . Our business there "i & charity and brotherly love and communion , the admission

of candidates , and the transaction of such other matters as necessarily pertain to every association . Now , all tiiss is of such a character that it may with great propriety be left to ourselves . We are brothers—members « f a

large family—met for the purpose of transacting our © tssa . business , with which the world has no concern , and'wlgr should the world be permitted to witness its disposition !? Does a needy brother require assistance and receiver 3 $ , it is not for us to vaunt it , and it might not be agreeaMs to him to proclaim his wants before strangers , nor she fact of his being relieved published ; and it would era ? -

tainly be impolitic and uncharitable by publicity & o trammel the discussion of character , and how could r & hs announcement of the rejection ¦ of candidates-for vsarr confidence be otherwise than-prejudicial to us , by-excifiaag enmity and disaffection in the world , made up of a thousand creeds . Our objects are few and their / pursuiS is quiet and secretand' we' haveas Masons ht BE

, , , naug common with mankind . We do not meddle with' pollfes , nor the extension of a creed by proselytism . We sssfe : only to cultivate the social virtues among ourselves , So benefit each other by deeds of love , and indirectly beacSI " the world by our own improvement . ]

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MASONIC FACTS. Article 1
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 2
NOTES ON LITERATURE, SCIENCE, AND ART. Article 5
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 6
PORTRAIT OF BRO. CREW. Article 7
THE CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 7
CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES. Article 8
MASTERS AND WARDENS. Article 8
AGED MASONS' WIVES. Article 8
HELE. Article 8
HIGH PRIESTHOOD. Article 8
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 9
METROPOLITAN. Article 9
PROVINCIAL. Article 10
YORKSHIRE (WEST.) Article 13
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 13
SCOTLAND. Article 13
INDIA. Article 13
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
MARK MASONRY. Article 17
NOTES ON MUSIC AND THE DRAMA. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

Glasgow Cathedral , 1188 , 1258 . Inch Colme , Abbey 1272 . Raglan Castle , temp . Edward 4 th . TJsk Castle . Valle Crucis Abbey . Chepstow Castle . CaerphillCastle .

y St . Hal ' s Hermitage . St . Mary ' s , Youghal . Dunbrody Abbey , 1216 . Church at Kinsale . St . Oanice , Kilkenny , 1251 . ^ Ardmore Church , Waterford . Drumcliffe ChurchCork .

, Cologne Cathedral , 1248 , 1322 . St . Andrews Church , Cologne . St . Johns Church , Cologne . Church of the Apostles , Cologne . St . Cuniberts Church , Cologne . Strasburg Cathedral , 12 Cent . Rheins Cathedral .

St . Radigonde , Poitiers . Presburg Cathedral . Copenhagen Cathedral . Church at Asseus . St . Mary ' s , Elensbnrg . Roskilde Cathedral , 1150 . Hpsala Cathedral , 1287 .

Church at Tonkoping , 1260 . Drontherm Cathedral . Altenburg Churches , & c . Roman marks from Hersulaneum . „ Hadrian ' s Wall about A . D . 129 . „ „ „ Risingham . „ „ „ Pat Pierce Bridge .

„ „ „ Tower at York . „ „ „ Acton Soott . Aqueduct and Fortifications at Malta . Al-Hadhr , Mesopotamia . Eski Khan . Cistern of 1001 Columns , Constantinople . Pyramids at GizeV 2120 B . C .

. , Wada Yales , on the Jordan . Masada , Dead Sea . The Tajz at Agra . Fortifications at Allahabad . Altogether about 2000 Marks .

GRAND CONCLAVE AND THE BALBWTN ENCAMPMENT . The question as to the Baldwyn or Bristol Encampment owing fealty to the Supreme Grand Master will be set at rest by referring to their own regulations . In them they acknowledge the Dnke of Sussex and his successors as the Grand Masters ; after which conclusive evidence I think the Grand Master should no longer be

subjected to make terms with rebels , at their proposal , but to require of them unconditional and humble application to be re-admitted into the order , which for a time , they have contumaciously forsaken . Their own words are their conviction : — "Laws ancl Regulations , to be observed by the Knights Companions of the Conclave of Baldwyn from time immemorial . 1 . That the

Encampment of Baldwyn from time immemorial , submit to the Grand Encampment of England , under the command of his Royal Highness the Duke of Sussex , our Most Eminent Grand Master , and Ms successors . " Extracted from The Service of Masonic Knights of St . John of Jerusalem , Rhodes , Palestine , and Malta ; lihewise of Masonic Templan-s , of the " Encampment of Baldivyn , from time

immemorial . Stationed in , Bristol . To which are annexed the Regulations of this Encampment 8 vo ., without date . Imprint , Bristol : by Brother Joseph Routh , Narrow Wine-street . The Oath , before printed in the MAGAZINE , is inserted with this heading : " The following Oath was taken by our Provincial G . Superintendent , W . H . Goldwyer , Esq ., on Good Friday , 1813 , and is to be

repeated by each succeeding Grand Commander of tfe Encampment of Baldwyn , in token of his submissies so our Supreme Grand Master , his R . H . the Dukej ? £ Sussex . "—M . C . G . O . > £ < . THE LATE BRO . BETER TE 03 ISON . Was the late Bro . Peter Thomson any relation to Sas well-known brother of the same name , and wh & t ioHges

did he belong to ?—M . H . —[ He was his son . Initiates in the Lion and Lamb Lodge ( No . 227 ) , in DeceoaJirsis * , 1835 , and was W . M . in 1838 . He was a member oS £ fca Jerusalem Chapter ( No . 218 ) , in which he was eK & lfodis * 1849 , served as J . 1854 , H . 1855 , Z . 1856 . He died « s . the 31 st of December , 1861 , ancl at that time heii 4-hQ office of Secretary in his mother lodge , never hawog been , we believe , connected by membership with smoother lodge or chapter than that he was initiated _ asji 3 exalted in . ]

REASONS FOE SECEESY 1 ST JTASONEV . I am often asked "If Masonry is so good as yea represent it , why is it kept secret ? " Assist me wll ) h" « , few reasons to give when I ain next called nponin- 'EiEs way . —FABER . —[ Freemasonry has been denounced .- / asfi suspected , in consequence of its being a secret ortlec Secrecy in all things where secrecy is maintained , is EGS

only consistent with innocence , but is also imperatively enforced by necesssity , as well as demanded by every consideration of policy . The direct benefits flowing from Masonry are , of course , intended for , and sfcoxM be participated in , only by its members— -by those wfeo have been regularly initiated into its mysteries , and contribute to its support . They are secured by a knowlectgs

of a universal language , which is used as a test of brotherhood . This universal language ( universal to llasoKa ) is , under no circumstances , communicated to tbe waBS at large . The words and signs of it are secret , fer'ao communicate them would at once destroy their utility , And , strange as it may appear to the uninitiated , ass ? society professes to have no secrets beyond this . T 5 ies ? e

is little , very little , in the lodge to gratify the eye of fee inquisitive . We do not tempt them with offers to unfdM some mighty mystery ; we can impart to them no superhuman wisdom ; we possess not the elixir of life , near the philosopher's stone , nor the spells of the Tarshaa ^ we cannot and do not profess to be bound by anyfes but such as are consistent with our duty towards

oneselves and families , our neighbours and our God . AbasS the general nature of lodge transactions , every one lam ® can know as much as any of its members , but for fear of any misapprehension on this subject , we would 'brie-Sy state that nowhere are order and decorum more strictly enforced than in our lodges . Our business there "i & charity and brotherly love and communion , the admission

of candidates , and the transaction of such other matters as necessarily pertain to every association . Now , all tiiss is of such a character that it may with great propriety be left to ourselves . We are brothers—members « f a

large family—met for the purpose of transacting our © tssa . business , with which the world has no concern , and'wlgr should the world be permitted to witness its disposition !? Does a needy brother require assistance and receiver 3 $ , it is not for us to vaunt it , and it might not be agreeaMs to him to proclaim his wants before strangers , nor she fact of his being relieved published ; and it would era ? -

tainly be impolitic and uncharitable by publicity & o trammel the discussion of character , and how could r & hs announcement of the rejection ¦ of candidates-for vsarr confidence be otherwise than-prejudicial to us , by-excifiaag enmity and disaffection in the world , made up of a thousand creeds . Our objects are few and their / pursuiS is quiet and secretand' we' haveas Masons ht BE

, , , naug common with mankind . We do not meddle with' pollfes , nor the extension of a creed by proselytism . We sssfe : only to cultivate the social virtues among ourselves , So benefit each other by deeds of love , and indirectly beacSI " the world by our own improvement . ]

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