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Masonic Notes And Queries.

GRAND LODGE BUSINESS I'APEES . When did the Grand Lodge first order that a "business paper" should be circulated amongst the brethren and where can a perfect set of these documents be seen ? STATUTES OJ THE 33 ° . I want to see the statutes of 33 ° . Where can I obtain

tham ?—K it . —[ Certainly not in this country . Bro . Albert Pike published , hi America , 1 S 59 , or 1860 , Statutes and " Regulations of tlie Ancient and Accepted Rite , but as it was for private circulation , how you are to see it we do not know . Three copies , however , passed through our hands ; one for the Duke of Athol , one for the Duke of Leinster , and one for Dr . Leeson . ]

TOTNES MASONIC HAIL . When was the Masonic Hall , at Totness , destroyed by fire?—TAT ; . —]_ January 20 th , I 860 . ] DEATH OE THE DUKE OE SUSSEX . In what year did H . R . H . the Duke of Sussex die ?—TAU . —[ 1843 , on the 21 st of April . ] UNION OE HIGH GRADES AND KIGHT TEMPLARS .

The separation of the Hi gh Grades from the Templar Order , has caused much heartburning . They are , however , the Natural Allies of the Templars . If tho Grand Conclave would pass a law to require the Rose sj « ( which includes a Royal Arch degree ) , instead of Royal Arch , the expense would be about the same , and a Templar Commander would fulfil his O . B . Thishoweverwould

, , serve little unless tho ii . C . would allow Grand and Prov . Grand Conclaves to form councils and confer the degree of Grand Cross of K . D . S . H ., for which thoy might receive warrants from the S . O . The 33 ° would thus become a Supreme Council of Rites , embracing every order and degree , and all would probably be satisfied . —A .

BRITISH OR GENERAL GRAND LODGES AND CHAPTERS . We cannot draw too closely the bonds of fraternal union ; "A three-fold cord is not easily broken . " There is much unseemly difference in laws , & c , between the three Grand Lodges of the United Kingdom ; might not these be smoothed away under a British Grand t / odge ? The present Grand Lodges to be considered the heads of provinces , and their Grand Masters es-officioto fill three

, principle offices in the General Grand Lodge . The Supreme Grand Master to be elected from the three Grand Masters , and an equal number of G . G . Officers appointed out- ofthe ( at present ) three Masonic Kingdoms . The British Grand Lodge only to have the power of granting warrants , aud all the existing lodges to be registered thereunder . The same suggestion is

fraternally made to the Templars , to whom it is still more applicable , if the ancient customs' and traditions of the order are any argument , Formerly the Grand . Priors of Scotland and Ireland were subordinate to the Grand Prior of the Temple at London , bnt all were appointed hy tho Great Master and General Chapter . —j A .

GRAND MASTERS OE THE TEMPLE . I find Mills ( HM . Chiv . ) gives a complete list of the G . M ' . ' s of the Temple . For easy reference we may add the following to those already given : —• PA . Thomas Theobaldus , Aiexandrinus 1321-1340 25 . Arnoldus de Prague 1310-1347 20 . Johannes Clarainontanus 1347-1357 28 . Johannes Arminiacas 1381-1392

29 . Benardus „ 1392-1419 30 . Johannes „ 1419-1451 31 . Johannes Croyns 1451-1472 32 . Bernardus Iiiibaultius , Vie . Mag . Afric . ( Regens ) 1472-1478 34 . Gnleatius de Salazar " . 1497-1516 36 . Gaspardus de SalceacoJavannencis 1544-1574

, 38 . Caralus Valesins 1615-1651 39 . Jacobus Ruscellius de Fraucio 1651-1681 . 46 . Chraaius Matheaus Radix de Cbevillon ... 1792-1804 Admiral Sir Sydney Smith being the 48 th Grand Master . —A .

BRO . GILES EONDA YATES . Is Bro . Giles Fonda Yates still living ?—E . T . [ No Ho died December 13 th , 1859 , aged 60 years . ] THE WORKING OP THE ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE . As you have of late given several papers relative to the foundation aud working of Supreme Grand Councils I beg to forward the following , on one of those bodies ' embodied in a report of the Grand Lodge of Louisiana ' —Ex . Ex .

"It is well known that in . Louisiana both the York rite , the Scotch rite , ancl the French rite are used , and some confusion has arisen therefrom . The gist of tbe argument is that the Lodges in Louisiana should be permitted to work in the York French , or Scotch rite , or in all , as they please . Bro . Fellows contends that so far as the principles of the degrees of Entered Apprentice , Fellow Craft , ancl Master Mason ave concerned , they are in substance , tlie same as in all tbe rites . "We have

not room for his argument ; nor are we capable of judging of its force ; but sincerely hope that the dissensions at present existing in Louisiana , growing out of these cumulations of rites , may be speedily healed . The chief fomerfter of them seems to be a certain Jacques Foulhouze , who claims to be Sovereign Grand Commander of 'the Supreme Council of Sovereign Grand Inspectors General , 33 d Degree , Ancient and Accepted Scotch Rite for the State of Louisiana' a body which claims

, authority to establish Lodges in the first three degrees of Masonry , thereby conflicting with the authority of the Grand Lodge of Louisiana . This Council is alleged to be clandestine , and is so regarded by the other Supreme Grand Councils in the United States , and by the Grand Orient of France , from which Mr . Foulhouze obtained his grade as a Sovereign Grand Inspector General . As explanatory of the history of the origin of these feuds

we give the following extract from Bro . Fellows's report , for tho information of the Craft in this jurisdiction : "' The difficulties within our jurisdiction—growing out ofthe revolt of some of our lodges , the withdrawal of others , and the efforts of certain disaffected individuals , in our midst , to create , by various means , a schism in our ranks— especially , by a pretended superior organizationor at leastone claiming

, , powers co-extensive with those of the Grand Lodge—has been the occasion of the receipt of several of these foreign communications from private individuals ; mostly devoted , however , to inquiries as to the actual state of facts existing here , and requesting information . Many of these will , no doubt , have been

answeredby the Grand Master , by private letter . or in his address ; ancl yet , as several of them have beenlaid before your committee , we feel it our duty to present to you our views upon the points of inquiry . They are nearly all upon the same subject matter , alluded to above ; and , hence , one answer must do for all . TSor in this , shall ive state each question in detail , and our answer thereto : but , by giving a simple narritive of facts , as we know them to exist , make the substance of these inquires known to

you in that way , and which , we trust , will be ample to satisfy the various querists , and those whom they represent . Our Grand Lodge was formed ( organized ) in 1812 , by the concurrent union of five lodges , and claimed exclusive jurisdiction to form new Lodges in this State . Its authority bas never been interferred with until quite recently , though there were two other Lodges then ( 1812 ) , iu the state , which did not unite in forming the Grand Lodge , and which were , nevertheless , recognized as legal

by it . These two Lodges , Louisiana- and Harmony , continued to work by themselves for several years , but , finally ( since 1820 ) , ceased labors as such—the members , or most of them , taking out charters , under similar names , from our Grand Lodge . These seven Lodges , were York Rite Lodges of South Corolina , Pennsylvanah , and New York , as such , and as York Masons , received charters at the formation of our Grand Lodge , in 1812 . Indeed , no charter was issued by the Grand Lodge prior to 1832 , in

which the words 'Ancient York Masons / were not used . Charters or ' warrants of constitution , ' for bodies of various higher grades of Masons hacl been obtained by the Masons of New Orleans , prior to 1832 , including-chai'ters for Royal Arch Chapters , Councils of Royal and Select Masters , and Encampment of Knights Templars , Chapters of Rose Croix , ancl Councils of Kadosh , all of which bodies did much work , as would appear from the date at which many of our old Masons received their several degrees , etc . "' In Louisiana , peopled as it is by men of all nations , you could ever find many Masons made such in the countries or

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MASONIC FACTS. Article 1
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 2
NOTES ON LITERATURE, SCIENCE, AND ART. Article 5
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 6
PORTRAIT OF BRO. CREW. Article 7
THE CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 7
CONFIRMATION OF MINUTES. Article 8
MASTERS AND WARDENS. Article 8
AGED MASONS' WIVES. Article 8
HELE. Article 8
HIGH PRIESTHOOD. Article 8
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 9
METROPOLITAN. Article 9
PROVINCIAL. Article 10
YORKSHIRE (WEST.) Article 13
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 13
SCOTLAND. Article 13
INDIA. Article 13
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
MARK MASONRY. Article 17
NOTES ON MUSIC AND THE DRAMA. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

GRAND LODGE BUSINESS I'APEES . When did the Grand Lodge first order that a "business paper" should be circulated amongst the brethren and where can a perfect set of these documents be seen ? STATUTES OJ THE 33 ° . I want to see the statutes of 33 ° . Where can I obtain

tham ?—K it . —[ Certainly not in this country . Bro . Albert Pike published , hi America , 1 S 59 , or 1860 , Statutes and " Regulations of tlie Ancient and Accepted Rite , but as it was for private circulation , how you are to see it we do not know . Three copies , however , passed through our hands ; one for the Duke of Athol , one for the Duke of Leinster , and one for Dr . Leeson . ]

TOTNES MASONIC HAIL . When was the Masonic Hall , at Totness , destroyed by fire?—TAT ; . —]_ January 20 th , I 860 . ] DEATH OE THE DUKE OE SUSSEX . In what year did H . R . H . the Duke of Sussex die ?—TAU . —[ 1843 , on the 21 st of April . ] UNION OE HIGH GRADES AND KIGHT TEMPLARS .

The separation of the Hi gh Grades from the Templar Order , has caused much heartburning . They are , however , the Natural Allies of the Templars . If tho Grand Conclave would pass a law to require the Rose sj « ( which includes a Royal Arch degree ) , instead of Royal Arch , the expense would be about the same , and a Templar Commander would fulfil his O . B . Thishoweverwould

, , serve little unless tho ii . C . would allow Grand and Prov . Grand Conclaves to form councils and confer the degree of Grand Cross of K . D . S . H ., for which thoy might receive warrants from the S . O . The 33 ° would thus become a Supreme Council of Rites , embracing every order and degree , and all would probably be satisfied . —A .

BRITISH OR GENERAL GRAND LODGES AND CHAPTERS . We cannot draw too closely the bonds of fraternal union ; "A three-fold cord is not easily broken . " There is much unseemly difference in laws , & c , between the three Grand Lodges of the United Kingdom ; might not these be smoothed away under a British Grand t / odge ? The present Grand Lodges to be considered the heads of provinces , and their Grand Masters es-officioto fill three

, principle offices in the General Grand Lodge . The Supreme Grand Master to be elected from the three Grand Masters , and an equal number of G . G . Officers appointed out- ofthe ( at present ) three Masonic Kingdoms . The British Grand Lodge only to have the power of granting warrants , aud all the existing lodges to be registered thereunder . The same suggestion is

fraternally made to the Templars , to whom it is still more applicable , if the ancient customs' and traditions of the order are any argument , Formerly the Grand . Priors of Scotland and Ireland were subordinate to the Grand Prior of the Temple at London , bnt all were appointed hy tho Great Master and General Chapter . —j A .

GRAND MASTERS OE THE TEMPLE . I find Mills ( HM . Chiv . ) gives a complete list of the G . M ' . ' s of the Temple . For easy reference we may add the following to those already given : —• PA . Thomas Theobaldus , Aiexandrinus 1321-1340 25 . Arnoldus de Prague 1310-1347 20 . Johannes Clarainontanus 1347-1357 28 . Johannes Arminiacas 1381-1392

29 . Benardus „ 1392-1419 30 . Johannes „ 1419-1451 31 . Johannes Croyns 1451-1472 32 . Bernardus Iiiibaultius , Vie . Mag . Afric . ( Regens ) 1472-1478 34 . Gnleatius de Salazar " . 1497-1516 36 . Gaspardus de SalceacoJavannencis 1544-1574

, 38 . Caralus Valesins 1615-1651 39 . Jacobus Ruscellius de Fraucio 1651-1681 . 46 . Chraaius Matheaus Radix de Cbevillon ... 1792-1804 Admiral Sir Sydney Smith being the 48 th Grand Master . —A .

BRO . GILES EONDA YATES . Is Bro . Giles Fonda Yates still living ?—E . T . [ No Ho died December 13 th , 1859 , aged 60 years . ] THE WORKING OP THE ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE . As you have of late given several papers relative to the foundation aud working of Supreme Grand Councils I beg to forward the following , on one of those bodies ' embodied in a report of the Grand Lodge of Louisiana ' —Ex . Ex .

"It is well known that in . Louisiana both the York rite , the Scotch rite , ancl the French rite are used , and some confusion has arisen therefrom . The gist of tbe argument is that the Lodges in Louisiana should be permitted to work in the York French , or Scotch rite , or in all , as they please . Bro . Fellows contends that so far as the principles of the degrees of Entered Apprentice , Fellow Craft , ancl Master Mason ave concerned , they are in substance , tlie same as in all tbe rites . "We have

not room for his argument ; nor are we capable of judging of its force ; but sincerely hope that the dissensions at present existing in Louisiana , growing out of these cumulations of rites , may be speedily healed . The chief fomerfter of them seems to be a certain Jacques Foulhouze , who claims to be Sovereign Grand Commander of 'the Supreme Council of Sovereign Grand Inspectors General , 33 d Degree , Ancient and Accepted Scotch Rite for the State of Louisiana' a body which claims

, authority to establish Lodges in the first three degrees of Masonry , thereby conflicting with the authority of the Grand Lodge of Louisiana . This Council is alleged to be clandestine , and is so regarded by the other Supreme Grand Councils in the United States , and by the Grand Orient of France , from which Mr . Foulhouze obtained his grade as a Sovereign Grand Inspector General . As explanatory of the history of the origin of these feuds

we give the following extract from Bro . Fellows's report , for tho information of the Craft in this jurisdiction : "' The difficulties within our jurisdiction—growing out ofthe revolt of some of our lodges , the withdrawal of others , and the efforts of certain disaffected individuals , in our midst , to create , by various means , a schism in our ranks— especially , by a pretended superior organizationor at leastone claiming

, , powers co-extensive with those of the Grand Lodge—has been the occasion of the receipt of several of these foreign communications from private individuals ; mostly devoted , however , to inquiries as to the actual state of facts existing here , and requesting information . Many of these will , no doubt , have been

answeredby the Grand Master , by private letter . or in his address ; ancl yet , as several of them have beenlaid before your committee , we feel it our duty to present to you our views upon the points of inquiry . They are nearly all upon the same subject matter , alluded to above ; and , hence , one answer must do for all . TSor in this , shall ive state each question in detail , and our answer thereto : but , by giving a simple narritive of facts , as we know them to exist , make the substance of these inquires known to

you in that way , and which , we trust , will be ample to satisfy the various querists , and those whom they represent . Our Grand Lodge was formed ( organized ) in 1812 , by the concurrent union of five lodges , and claimed exclusive jurisdiction to form new Lodges in this State . Its authority bas never been interferred with until quite recently , though there were two other Lodges then ( 1812 ) , iu the state , which did not unite in forming the Grand Lodge , and which were , nevertheless , recognized as legal

by it . These two Lodges , Louisiana- and Harmony , continued to work by themselves for several years , but , finally ( since 1820 ) , ceased labors as such—the members , or most of them , taking out charters , under similar names , from our Grand Lodge . These seven Lodges , were York Rite Lodges of South Corolina , Pennsylvanah , and New York , as such , and as York Masons , received charters at the formation of our Grand Lodge , in 1812 . Indeed , no charter was issued by the Grand Lodge prior to 1832 , in

which the words 'Ancient York Masons / were not used . Charters or ' warrants of constitution , ' for bodies of various higher grades of Masons hacl been obtained by the Masons of New Orleans , prior to 1832 , including-chai'ters for Royal Arch Chapters , Councils of Royal and Select Masters , and Encampment of Knights Templars , Chapters of Rose Croix , ancl Councils of Kadosh , all of which bodies did much work , as would appear from the date at which many of our old Masons received their several degrees , etc . "' In Louisiana , peopled as it is by men of all nations , you could ever find many Masons made such in the countries or

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