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Laek Ias0uey
Eirst , although , at the present time , no officer was appointed under the constitution to work in our Lodges under the title of Overseer , yet the function of the Overseer was most prominently alluded to in our working , and in several old Lodges which had joined the Grand Loogie the office was not only mentioned and
recognized as with us , but the officer in person was essential ; Secondly , that the English Lodges yet isolated almost universally worked with Overseers , and that to carry out the great object of unity and uniform ! ty , the recognized working would in all probability , before long , require to be modified by a clearer recognition of this office ; Thirdly , that it would give the Grand Master the opportunity of annually distinguishing a larger number of ring on them an office in thei Grand Lodge .
Bro . Burrell , J . GD ., had great pleasure in seconding this proposition . It had been universally approved on several occasions of its being brought before the General Board > and was also fully discussed at the committee of Masters . Bro . Jonesy P . S . G . W ., considered that there had not been sufficient opportunity of considering this question , He had not heard of it before , and was therefore not prepared to support it until he had an opportunity of discussing it at the General Board ; He thought the object appeared simply to create a place , which could not be considered other than a corrupt object . He wished to suggest , whether the proposition had not better be withdrawn .
Bro , Payne ^ of the Royal Cumberland Lodge , Bath , said that his Lodge worked with the Overseers ; indeed , he could scarcely see how they could work without them . He kh ew that the Ho we Lodge , Birmingham , the Newstead Lodge , Nottingham , and a Lodge at York also worked with Overseers ; aiid the appointment of such a Grand Office would show that this Grand Lodge recognized such an important element in the working of several ancient Lodges of their number . Bro . Barker could also bear testimony that in his own Lodge ( the Northumberlandalid Berwick ) the officer , as well as the function , was recognized ; and other Brethren followed to the same effect .
Bro . Barnard considered that the matter should be left until after a settlement and uniformity should have been brought about . Bro . Ridgway replied . —He could nob admit that no opportunity had been afforded of considering this matter : the approbation of the General Board and the notice and discussion at the committee of Masters was proof to the contrary . He could not agree that this matter should be postponed to the final revision and
settlement of the working ; such a settlement might he most materially aided by the evidence of fairness exhibited by this Grand Lodge in passing such a resolution as that he proposed . The creation of a place did not necessarily imply a corrupt creation . In this case it would enable the Grand Master to extend that satisfaction which his previous exercise of patronage had so universally given . A show of hands was then taken and declared in favour of the resolution .
Bro . Barker desired to have the opportunity of mentioning a fact of very great significance , in respect to the extraordinary and unwarrantable course adopted by the Grand Chapter of Scotland as to this degree , and which was exposed not only in this Grand Lodge on the last occasion of meeting , but by the subsequent recal of the false certificates and the professed Mark Charter based thereon . He alluded to a letter written , about 1842 , to a member of his Lodge by the Scotch authorities , in which he saw they coolly mentioned that they were preparing for the Mark and other degrees , and requesting * information : this coincided with the
date , 1843 , when , according to a repeatedly published yet uncontradicted state-, ment , the Grand Chapter first assumed to govern the degree , even in Scotland itself : but he should bring this matter forward in another way , and not detain the Grand Lodge further at present . He wished , however , to know whether there was any truth in the statement that the scheme attempted to be carried out , with reference to Brethren of the Kent Lodge , was not an isolated case ; and whether at the self-same time , similar false certificates were not issued by the Grand Chapter of Scotland whereon to ground another warrant for a Lodge to be held in the neighbourhood of London .
The Grand Registrar , in reply to Bro . Barker , stated it had come to his knowledge that , although the Grand Chapter of Scotland had professed to be scandalized 4 K
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Laek Ias0uey
Eirst , although , at the present time , no officer was appointed under the constitution to work in our Lodges under the title of Overseer , yet the function of the Overseer was most prominently alluded to in our working , and in several old Lodges which had joined the Grand Loogie the office was not only mentioned and
recognized as with us , but the officer in person was essential ; Secondly , that the English Lodges yet isolated almost universally worked with Overseers , and that to carry out the great object of unity and uniform ! ty , the recognized working would in all probability , before long , require to be modified by a clearer recognition of this office ; Thirdly , that it would give the Grand Master the opportunity of annually distinguishing a larger number of ring on them an office in thei Grand Lodge .
Bro . Burrell , J . GD ., had great pleasure in seconding this proposition . It had been universally approved on several occasions of its being brought before the General Board > and was also fully discussed at the committee of Masters . Bro . Jonesy P . S . G . W ., considered that there had not been sufficient opportunity of considering this question , He had not heard of it before , and was therefore not prepared to support it until he had an opportunity of discussing it at the General Board ; He thought the object appeared simply to create a place , which could not be considered other than a corrupt object . He wished to suggest , whether the proposition had not better be withdrawn .
Bro , Payne ^ of the Royal Cumberland Lodge , Bath , said that his Lodge worked with the Overseers ; indeed , he could scarcely see how they could work without them . He kh ew that the Ho we Lodge , Birmingham , the Newstead Lodge , Nottingham , and a Lodge at York also worked with Overseers ; aiid the appointment of such a Grand Office would show that this Grand Lodge recognized such an important element in the working of several ancient Lodges of their number . Bro . Barker could also bear testimony that in his own Lodge ( the Northumberlandalid Berwick ) the officer , as well as the function , was recognized ; and other Brethren followed to the same effect .
Bro . Barnard considered that the matter should be left until after a settlement and uniformity should have been brought about . Bro . Ridgway replied . —He could nob admit that no opportunity had been afforded of considering this matter : the approbation of the General Board and the notice and discussion at the committee of Masters was proof to the contrary . He could not agree that this matter should be postponed to the final revision and
settlement of the working ; such a settlement might he most materially aided by the evidence of fairness exhibited by this Grand Lodge in passing such a resolution as that he proposed . The creation of a place did not necessarily imply a corrupt creation . In this case it would enable the Grand Master to extend that satisfaction which his previous exercise of patronage had so universally given . A show of hands was then taken and declared in favour of the resolution .
Bro . Barker desired to have the opportunity of mentioning a fact of very great significance , in respect to the extraordinary and unwarrantable course adopted by the Grand Chapter of Scotland as to this degree , and which was exposed not only in this Grand Lodge on the last occasion of meeting , but by the subsequent recal of the false certificates and the professed Mark Charter based thereon . He alluded to a letter written , about 1842 , to a member of his Lodge by the Scotch authorities , in which he saw they coolly mentioned that they were preparing for the Mark and other degrees , and requesting * information : this coincided with the
date , 1843 , when , according to a repeatedly published yet uncontradicted state-, ment , the Grand Chapter first assumed to govern the degree , even in Scotland itself : but he should bring this matter forward in another way , and not detain the Grand Lodge further at present . He wished , however , to know whether there was any truth in the statement that the scheme attempted to be carried out , with reference to Brethren of the Kent Lodge , was not an isolated case ; and whether at the self-same time , similar false certificates were not issued by the Grand Chapter of Scotland whereon to ground another warrant for a Lodge to be held in the neighbourhood of London .
The Grand Registrar , in reply to Bro . Barker , stated it had come to his knowledge that , although the Grand Chapter of Scotland had professed to be scandalized 4 K